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| HTAFC Prediction League 2019/20 Matchday 4 |
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Posted by: Lord Snooty - 18-08-2019, 22:12 - Forum: Huddersfield Town
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2 points for a correct result
4 points for a correct score
2 points for each correct scorer
Correct joker doubles your score
Wrong joker result gives you minus 2
Correct Random Badger gives you 2 points 
The random badger is used for any random prediction used once in each matchday sequence. For instance, a scorer at a particular match, the number of red cards in the matches or yellow cards or own goals or owt you want really within reason, I do need to be able to check whether it's correct or not. Please don't put stuff like....."Commentator says...."
The joker is played for one match in each sequence and if correct you get double points. So if you've predicted 1-0 and it finishes 2-0, you get 4 pts, but if you've predicted 2-0, that's 8 pts. But if you get it wrong, it's minus 2.
Jokers and badgers are optional. You don't have to play one if you don't want.
Cup games:
In the event of a draw, it's half the points if you've predicted a draw when it gets to 90 mins and the full points if it's still a draw after extra time. Half the points will be awarded for correctly predicting the winner of the match if it goes to penalties.
Random score generator: I will be using the random score generator again for those who miss predicting, so we shouldn't get some people too far behind that after missing a couple of weeks they lose all interest, because I know it's not easy getting on here every week.
To be fair to everybody, this is going to be like, say if three people in one week miss their predictions, the first one in the table will be given all 0-0, the second one down the line will get 1-0 and the third will get 0-1 and so on, like if there's four missing the 4th will get 1-1, then 5th 2-1, 6th 1-2. and if there are so many missing, might as well pack in. 
And if you miss two weeks on the trot, I'll stop until you come back on again. Not doing it for half a season like I did t'other year. 
Saturday 24th August:
Town v Reading
Town scorers:
Reading scorers:
Derby County v West Bromwich Albion (12:30)
Barnsley v Luton Town
Blackburn Rovers v Cardiff City
Charlton Athletic v Brentford
Fulham v Nottingham Forest
Hull City v Bristol City
Middlesbrough v Millwall
Preston North End v Sheffield Wednesday
Queens Park Rangers v Wigan Athletic
Stoke City v Leeds United
Sunday 25th August:
Swansea City v Birmingham City (12:00)
EFL Cup:
Tuesday 27th August:
Burton Albion v Morecambe
Grimsby Town v Macclesfield Town
Rochdale v Carlisle United
Southend United v Milton Keynes Dons
Table after Matchday 3:
St Charles Owl = 65 pts
jjamez = 63 pts
neonfoxinthebox = 61 pts
themaclad = 59 pts
Baggiebob(BBB) = 55 pts
SHEP_HTAFC = 53 pts
Lord Snooty = 50 pts
Amelia Chaffinch = 48 pts
theo_luddite = 47 pts
ritchiebaby = 44 pts
Beefy 1965 = 37 pts
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| Town at Cardiff - match thread |
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Posted by: Lord Snooty - 18-08-2019, 22:05 - Forum: Huddersfield Town
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Cardiff City v Huddersfield Town
The Sky Bet Championship
Wednesday 21st August - 19:45 ko
at the Cardiff City Stadium
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Huddersfield Town travel to Cardiff and the imaginatively named Cardiff City Stadium on Wednesday night. We are on the brink of a new era follwing the sacking on Friday night of Head Coach Jan Siewert after our 1-2 defeat at home to Fulham and Cardiff have just been well and truly stuffed by Reading this Sunday lunchtime, 0-3.
But this match is all about old friends reunited. Of course Cardiff are managed by our old friend Neil Warnock and Town, possibly for this one match only, are managed by the man who captained Cardiff to promotion to the Premier League as champions of the Championship in 2013, Mark Hudson.
He also skippered us to promotion as well of course, was a non playing sub in the Play Off Final, but still got to lift the trophy. This will be his second match as caretaker at Town, having done it for one match following the parting of ways with David Wagner, after the 0-0 draw down at Cardiff in January. That one game he had in charge was a 0-3 defeat at home to Man City.
Cardiff also have a few of our ex players in their squad. Lee Peltier, Danny Ward, Alex Smithies, Jazz Richards and the skipper Sean Morrison. And the coaching team are also full of our old friends. Warnock in charge, with Ronnie Jepson, Kevin Blackwell and Andy Dibble.
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A brief history of Cardiff City: Formed in 1899, they didn't enter the Football League until 1920. But once in there, they made a rapid rise. They won promotion to Division One in their first season and then reached their highest league position ever in 1924 when they finished runners up to Huddersfield Town by the narrowest margin ever. We won it on goal average, which was the ruling back then, however if it had been today's ruling they would have taken the title on goals scored. Unlucky!
We went on to win the title three times in a row, they went to the FA Cup Final, losing 0-1 against Sheffield United. But they did win it in 1927 when Hughie Ferguson scored the only goal of the game at Wembley to beat Arsenal, thus becoming the only Welsh team to lift the famous trophy.
The good times didn't last though and successive relegations at the end of the decade saw them start the 1930s in Division 3 South. And there they stayed until the first season after the war when they won the Div 3S title. They were back in Division 1 in 1952, but back to Div 2 in 1957. A couple of seasons back up in the 60s and then a long spell in Div 2 before getting relegated to Div 3 in 1976. All the way down to Div 4 for one season in 1986/87, then up and down again before 1996 saw them finish 22nd out of 24 clubs in Div 4, their lowest ever league finish.
Back up again in the 3rd tier, they won the 2003 Play Offs against QPR, with Andy Campbell scoring the only goal of the Final. In 2008 they made it once more to the FA Cup Final, losing again, this time to Portsmouth. Back to Wembley again in 2012 for their first ever League Cup Final. This was against the mighty Liverpool. Joe Mason had given them an early lead before Liverpool equalised to take the match to extra time. The Reds took the lead, only for Ben Turner to level things up two minutes from time. So to penalties and Liverpool won it 3-2 with sub Anthony Gerrard missing the crucial one after his cousin Steve had earlier missed one for the Reds. Anthony's punishment for his misdemeanour was a transfer to Huddersfield Town.
They followed that the next season by winning the Championship and therefore a return to the top flight for the first time in 52 years. They came straight back down though. Not to worry, they were back up again in 2018. But of course, came straight back down yet again.
Head to Head
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Town lead the head to head with 29 wins to Cardiff's 24 with 22 draws.
We first met in 1921/22. It was goalless at Leeds Road and then 1-0 to Cardiff at Ninian Park. A couple of odd results later that decade. We beat them at home 8-2 in 1927/28, then went and lost 0-4 down at theirs.
We beat them 4-0 at home in 1982/83 with Mark Lillis scoring all four goals. And repeated the scoreline the following season, this time centre back Paul Jones scored a hat trick (2 of them penalties). Another lad to score four goals in a match for us was Craig Maskell in 1989/90. That was in a 5-1 win down at Ninian Park. And in 1994/95 we beat them at the MacAlpine by 5-1. That was the match where their manager Terry Yorath kicked them out of the dressing room for being 4-0 down at half time and they all had to spend the interval kicking a ball about with the subs. They were on a big downer then.
We didn't play them again until they got promoted back in 2001 and we won 2-1 down at their ground. Then we parted ways again, Cardiff going up, us down, but we did meet up for a League Cup match in 2011. This was at their new ground and after being 0-2 down at half time, our brave lads fought back with goals from Jordan Rhodes, Danny Ward and then an 88th minute "winner" from Rhodes taking us through, only for Don Cowie to equalise deep into injury time. The Bluebirds then won it 5-3 in extra time.
Our first game back in the Championship in 2012 after winning the Play Offs was a Friday night Sky Sports match down there and the newcomers to the division did really well to earn a point, only for Cardiff to snatch it away from us, once again in injury time. And who was it who got that only goal of the game? That man again, Mark Hudson.
Last season we played each other in the top flight for the first time since 1956. Both games ended 0-0, the one down there controversially after we had had a penalty given and then denied by referee Lee Mason after he had consulted his liner, who reminded him of the Premier League directive that Huddersfield Town were not allowed penalties unless they were already three goals up. Unfortunately for our legendary Head Coach, David Wagner, this was the straw that broke the camel's back and he resigned the following day.
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So what's happening down at the Cardiff City Stadium? Managed nowadays by Neil Warnock, the former Town boss. He's been there since 2016 and took them up to the Premier League in 2018. That was his eighth promotion as a Football League manager, and that's the record. His other promotions have been with Scarborough, Notts County (twice), the mighty Terriers of 1994/95, Plymouth Argyle, Sheffield Utd and QPR.
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So who have they got in their squad? Well there's those five players mentioned in the introduction, though most of them weren't in the squad for the Reading game. Neil Etheridge is the regular keeper, playing in all of last season's Premier League matches, but he is injured and so Alex Smithies will almost certainly be in for this one. He of course, was our penalty spot kick hero at Wembley in 2012 and on Sunday he once again saved one. They were already three down by then though.
Sean Morrison is the skipper and he also scored a penalty in that famous shoot out against Sheffield Utd. His defensive partner is ex Bristol City centre back Aden Flint who signed from Middlesbrough in the summer. He has a knack of popping up with a few goals each season.
Another Town connection in their side is Leandro Bacuna, who's brother played for us in the Premier League, but has since gone missing (can we get that player back please?). Leandro signed in January from Reading for £3m. Midfielder Joe Ralls has been there since 2011, but went on loan to Yeovil when they got promoted in 2013.
Another name to send shivers down our backs is midfielder Lee Tomlin, who always plays well against us, including a certain match for a certain Posh club in 2011 at Old Trafford. He also scored for Bristol City against us and another ex City man is Marlon Pack, but he went off injured at Reading, so may not be available for this one.
There's an ex Leeds man in the squad, Sol Bamba. He played for Warnock at Bellend Road and was his first signing when he got the job at Cardiff. Wasn't in the squad at Reading though.
Recent form: Town are 22nd in the Championship with 1 point and Cardiff are 19th with 3 points.
Results so far this season:
Town 1-2 Derby
QPR 1-1 Town
Town 0-1 Lincoln (Carabooboo Cup)
Town 1-2 Fulham
Wigan 3-2 Cardiff
Cardiff 2-1 Luton
Reading 3-0 Cardiff
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| VAR and the rule of "hand ball"!!? |
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Posted by: 0762 - 18-08-2019, 21:20 - Forum: Manchester City
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Did anybody watch that last secs winning goal by City v Spurs that was eventually disallowed by this controversial rule of any hand ball, deliberate or otherwise, that was exposed during the women's World Cup in France??? It was a ridiculous decision and it is gonna ruin footie as a true spectacle and source of entertainment! I suspect that this rule will be "kicked into touch" sooner rather than later as a matter of course!! Referees should be allowed to judge whether the old rule of hand ball applies or not and not this ill thought out garbage!
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| Betfred Cup QF draw - it's Killie at Rugby Park! |
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Posted by: 0762 - 18-08-2019, 18:39 - Forum: Hibernian
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Not the worst draw TBH but it is a pity that Hibs don't have home advantage. Killie currently seem to be in the same "flat" situation under a different manager. So it will be an interesting confrontation when the quarter-final tie is played sometime at the end of September.
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| Betfred Cup QF draw - it is Partick Thistle!!! |
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Posted by: 0762 - 18-08-2019, 18:32 - Forum: Celtic
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Another home draw for The Hoops and what a good draw that is with Celtic definitely hot favourites to reach another semi-final and remain unbeaten in domestic cup ties for over 3 years!!
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| Sam Johnstone |
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Posted by: BaggieMan - 18-08-2019, 18:05 - Forum: West Bromwich Albion
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I’m concerned at the quality and consistency of Sam Johnstone who certainly isn’t anywhere near the standard of Ben Foster. Yes, he has some decent stops but all too often he lets in a goal that he should have stopped.
At Forest any keeper worth their salt would have saved that near post shot but it squirmed under him and yesterday he should have at least known a cross was coming in and been prepared for a possible header on goal but he stands still like a statue making zero effort to save the goal.
If Bond isn’t good enough yet, I think we should be looking for a new Championship experienced keeper in the January window. Johnstone could be the difference between getting promotion or mid-table finish come next May.
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| The Rich Get Richer |
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Posted by: Arcane Astral Aeons - 18-08-2019, 14:58 - Forum: West Bromwich Albion
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i know it`s nothing to do with West Brom(or is it)
as you may be aware Bury FC could well be kicked out of the league come Friday
Big deal you may say
but to lose a football league club when the greed league is getting richer aint fair
would it be too much to ask for the premier league rich sides to maybe donate some of their riches to keep this club in business
i`m sure they can afford it
doubt it will happen though
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| Confirmed by Shelley Kerr - a "bust up" after the Argentina match! |
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Posted by: 0762 - 16-08-2019, 13:48 - Forum: Women's Football
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I must say I'm not totally surprised by this revelation and the nature of the meeting between all team members and coaching staff to assess how on earth a Scotland team could lose such a World Cup tie v Argentina when three goals ahead and with about 15 mins remaining. Of course the proceedings could become heated!!! The team was given additional financial support to prepare properly in France for a decent period and in recognition of their achievement to qualify for a World Cup tourney! What a screw up! What a "dampener" to end the tournament in such a way and certain Scotland players were deserving of the criticism albeit in private. I also find this media/press report of Kerr's preceding evening meal "with a few drinks" as the usual mischief that is typical of press behaviour these days!! Trying to "stir it up" when, in fact, a few harsh words would likely be uttered following an unacceptable "screw up" by a Scotland team that should've been in total control of their own destiny when leading by three goals to nil and on course to attain a wee bit of success after a difficult and relatively unlucky World Cup campaign in France. Was Shelley Kerr disappointed? I'll bet she was! Could she have done more during the course of that Argentina match? I think she could have "changed it" esp towards the end of that match, which was far too "open" from her point of view. But that is down to coaching/tactical "nous" and having suitable players on the subs' bench to influence the course of a footie match. IMO she never had a plan B mentality about her and just looked powerless/"frozen" on the touch line as this match unfolded and became one of the most remembered World Cup Scotland matches but for all the wrong reasons!!
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