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  Preston North End v Derby County Deepdale 20/4/2021
Posted by: themaclad - 5 hours ago - Forum: Preston North End - No Replies

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LAST TIME OUT

PLASTICS 2 DERBY 1

FORM GUIDE

PNE 8 DERBY 3

The penultimate home game of the season finds 10 points clear of the Merry Millers although with games in hand have the feeling that the two Covid enforced breaks will ultimately cost them their place in the division.
Just above them are Derby tomorrow's visitors who in an ideal word would love to see being relegated, personally notthing against any Rams fans but the atual running of the club over the last couple of seasons as them them sail extremely close to the wind in regards to rules.
Apparently they have now been taken over woner if that includes owning the ground given the last owners ability to sell the ground to himself all allegedly of course.
Then we have the signing of the now manager whse original deal was sponsored by a betting company whose name adorns their shirts and ours as a matter of fact although hopefully for not much longer.
When we won their with a last minute goal the bet firm who sponsor both of us tweeted that Derby were so unlucky to lose.
On the field after a good start Wayne Rooney's Derby County to giive them their correct Sky name have struggled of late a desperate shortage of goals although Tom Lawrence is back and is still banging them in.
The side they put out on Friday seemed to be bereft of forwards and they have only found the net 31 times this season(so we know what will happen tomorrow night)
Third meeting of the sides this season and unusally given our dreadful recent recors against the Rams we have won them both admittedly after both games saw them reduced to 10 men.
One point will take us to 50 points, three will leave them in deep crap.

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  ESL Club Staement
Posted by: themaclad - 5 hours ago - Forum: Preston North End - No Replies

Classy from us

We have noted with disappointment the suggestion that a European Super League be formed as a means of concentrating yet more wealth into the hands of the few.

Those English clubs who feel that such an attempt at a wealth power grab, thereby undermining and potentially destroying the English football pyramid, should look themselves in the mirror.

If one takes the status of these so called big six over a longer time frame than just the formation of the Premier League it would take a wise person to guess at who these so called top six are. Over a sustained historic period, the suggestion that these clubs have been at the forefront of domestic trophy winning or domination doesn’t stand the test of scrutiny.

Performance on the field of play with promotion and relegation and qualification for European competition based on winning football matches is a fundamental part of European football history.

Having just experienced the devastating financial impact of COVID on football finances, English football urgently needs a fairer distribution of monies throughout the Leagues not a money power grab by the self-appointed few. There is already a huge disparity between the finances available to the top 20 clubs rather the rest of the football pyramid and many are in dire financial straits. This breakaway could destroy nearly 150 years of football history for short term riches for the few.

The underlying principle that these breakaway clubs appear to have completely disregarded is that football is most importantly about its supporters. This European Super League plan has totally ignored their voice which is unacceptable.

We are looking to Government, FIFA, UEFA, The FA, The Premier League and the EFL to ensure that this proposal is stopped in its tracks and the future of the English game as a whole is secured.

Preston North End Football Club


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  SUPER TWELVE? YES, SUICIDE IS PAINLESS!
Posted by: Devongone - 7 hours ago - Forum: Chesterfield - No Replies

Suicide is painless, it brings on many changes, that's how the lyric goes isn't it?

Liverpool, Man Utd, Man City, Spurs, Chelski and the Arse join a Euro-suicide-pact. BRING IT ON!

To play football in the England a club has to be registered with a recognised Football Association. That's a has to be.

So let them set up their outside competition. DO it, do it, do it! Then ban the clubs concerned, as you would a player who punches the ref', sine die.

At that point the registration of players at the clubs concerned is no longer recognised by any FA, or their clubs. The contracts those players signed must surely become null and void, because they must contain clauses containing references to playing football and what their clubs have signed up for won't be recognised as professional football ............ So there will be little need to ban those players individually as they will become free agents in the eyes of every club outside the twelve; Rashford goes to PSG to link up with Neymar and Mbappe, Mane crosses the park to Everton, de Bruyne decides WBA would be a nice challenge.

If these clubs have no status then you need only enforce a ban on players, who later decide to join them. They will therefore have little or no youth programme and will suffer from declining on-field standards as players who stayed loyal simply age and Man City v Juventus becomes a predictable bore.

Better still these clubs will be removed from their leagues. So Six teams will be promoted from the Championship to the Premier, and so on down the tiers. So, yes the six best Non-league teams will be invited back into the EFL. And if we sign a centre forward to replace poor old Asante, Chesterfield just might be one of them.

And five years down the line FC United of Manchester will, be trotting out at Old Trafford in EFL 2, having won the National League and City of Liverpool will be preparing to move back into a deserted Anfield to start their new National League campaign.

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  Town v Barnsley
Posted by: Lord Snooty - 8 hours ago - Forum: Huddersfield Town - Replies (5)

Huddersfield Town v Barnsley
The Sky Bet Championship
Wednesday April 21st - 19:45 ko
at the John Smith's Stadium


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Huddersfield Town welcome Barnsley to the John Smith's Stadium on Wednesday evening for not so much a must win game, but a game we really need to get something from. The win at Forest on Saturday has given us some much needed breathing space, but until we're out of immediate danger, we can't breathe easy. A win would take us to 50 points and that should be enough, but.......

Barnsley's defeat against Coventry on Sunday wasn't a good result at all for either them or us. But Birmingham winning at Rotherham, even though it put them above us, in all reality was probably a good result for us. We are now 8 points above the Millers and we should know the result from their home game with Boro by the time we get underway on Wednesday. They kick off at the New York at six o'clock.

Looking at the league table now, it seems almost impossible to think that us and Barnsley were level on points and goal difference in 12th and 13th positions, when we met at Oakwell on Boxing Day. They are now in the top six and we are in the bottom five. How on earth have our fortunes differed to such extreme extents?

Answers on a postcard to..... well post in the reply box below actually. Blush

Team news? It was nice to have Harry Toffolo back on Saturday at the City Ground and with Josh Koroma waiting for his chance on the bench, things are looking a bit more rosier for team selection. Not sure whether our leading scorer, Fraizer Campbell will be available for this one after he went off with a bad looking shoulder injury. We await, with baited breath, for the press conference from our Head Coach.





A brief history of Barnsley FC: formed in 1887 by the Reverend Tiverton Preedy as Barnsley St Peter's FC. He played in their first match and was the one who secured the lease of the land at Oakwell, where they moved to in 1888 and have been based there ever since. They joined the Football League in 1898, playing in the 2nd division, and are still there today, being the team who has played most seasons in the 2nd tier.

They did nowt much for the first few years, but then out of the blue, they made it to the FA Cup Final in 1910. They drew 1-1 with Newcastle Utd at Crystal Palace, with Harry Tufnell scoring in the first half. The Magpies equalised late on and then went on to win the replay at Goodison Park 2-0, a few days later. Undeterred, Barnsley only went and reached the Final again in 1912, to play West Bromwich Albion.

Once again, they drew the game, played again at Crystal Palace, this time it was goal less. But in the replay, at Brammall Lane, they triumphed, winning the FA Cup for the one and only time. It was that man Tufnell who got the goal in a 1-0 win, scoring in extra time, in the 118th minute. The replay was played just nine days after the sinking of the Titanic and a collection was held for the disaster fund. The match ball was presented to the Rev Preedy, who kept it until his death in 1928, when it was returned to the club.

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After the First World War, the FL decided to extend the 1st division from 20 clubs to 22. So from the last pre war season, Spurs who had finished bottom, were relegated and the top three of the 2nd division would be promoted. Or would they? Derby and Preston, the top two went up, but Barnsley, who finished 3rd were denied their place as the FL decided to promote Woolwich Arsenal in thanks for their part in the success of the war. Not that they did it in an underhand method of course. There was a (rigged?) ballot, which Arsenal won and they have been in the top flight ever since. So the Colliers continued in the 2nd division, coming close to promotion in 1922, but in the rest of the time between the wars, they spent time flitting between the 2nd and 3rd divisions.

After the 2nd World War, they had two notable players. One was a young Irishman who signed from Glentoran. His name was Danny Blanchflower, who went on to be one of the big names in the game, skippering Spurs to the League and Cup double in 1961. The other notable name was Tommy Taylor, who went to Manchester Utd for a British record transfer fee, but then perished in the Munich Air Disaster of 1958.

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In 1958, the FL split the two regionalised 3rd divisions into Div 3 and 4. Barnsley were still in Div 2 at the time, but within a few years had dropped down in to Div 4. They didn't return to the 2nd division until getting promoted in 1980/81, under the management of Norman Hunter, pipping Town to promotion by three points. They stayed there for the next few years.

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In 1993, Viv Anderson became manager and brought his Sheffield Wednesday team mate Danny Wilson in as his assistant. When Anderson left for Middlesbrough a couple of seasons later, Wilson became player/manager. He was the one who guided them finally, to promotion to the top flight after 99 years of existence, meaning they would spend their centenary season in the Premier League.

It started badly and they only had 4 points from their first 19 games. They rallied though and despite being relegated, they got to 35 points and weren't far off surviving, finishing 5 points behind Everton who survived on goal difference from Bolton. They almost got back again in 2000, reaching the Play Offs, but losing 5-2 on aggregate to Birmingham City.

Wilson had by now gone to back to Hillsborough to manage the Wendys and Dave Bassett was in charge. They, like a lot of other clubs, almost went into administration at the collapse of ITV Digital, but then in 2006 with Andy Ritchie in charge, they won promotion back to what was now called the Championship. They got there via the Play Offs after beating us in the semis and Swansea at the Millennium Stadium. Paul Hayes had put them 1-0 up, only for the Swans to go 2-1 up after the break. Daniel Nardiello then equalised and after extra time, the match went to penalties. It was two future Town players who became the heroes of the hour. After Adebayo Akinfenwa had missed his, Anthony Kay scored Barnsley's 4th meaning Alan Tate had to score his to keep the game alive. He didn't, because Nick Colgan saved it and the Tykes won.

Simon Davey replaced Rich Tea after a poor start to the Championship season, which ended not in relegation. The season after, they had an FA Cup run to the semi finals, for the first time since they won it in 1912. In the run, they beat Liverpool and Chelsea, but disappointingly lost to fellow Championship side Cardiff City at Wembley.

They were back at Wembley in 2016......twice. They'd been relegated so were back playing in the EFL trophy and made it to the Final, where they met Oxford Utd. An own goal from Chey Dunkley and one from Ashley Fletcher put the Tykes 2-1 up. But then ex Town, paramedic assaulting scouse prick Adam Hammill, scored the goal of the game with a curler from 20 yards. Oxford pulled one back to make a tense finish, but the Tarn held out for the win. They were back there again just over a month later to play Millwall in the Play Off Final. They had hammered Walsall in the semi and looked like they were going the same way against the Lions, going into an early two goal lead through Fletcher and Hammill. However Millwall pulled one back before half time. Barnsley extended the lead though in the 74th minute when the keeper flapped at a corner and Lloyd Isgrove nodded the ball into the net to make it 3-1 and they were back up to the Championship once more.

They were back down again a couple of years later, but bounced straight back, finishing as runners up to Luton in 18/19. They avoided relegation last season, finishing one place above the drop zone following a miraculous win at Brentford on the final day of the season.


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Head to Head

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Town lead the head to head with 32 wins to Barnsley's 28, with 15 draws.

The last three games have all finished 2-1 to the home team, so let's hope that's something that carries on. The most recent being the one at Oakwell on Boxing Day, with the Reds getting the winner through Michal Helik in the very last second of added on time, to add to the equaliser he'd scored in the first half. Ramarni Edmonds-Green had put Town in the lead in the 13th minute.

The game at Oakwell in the previous season was memorable only for the strike from Lewis O'Brien which won Goal of the Season, after they had gone two nil up through Alex Mowatt and Conor Chaplin. Back in October it was Jacob Brown with the consolation after Christopher Schindler and Karlan Grant had put us two ahead.

Back through the mists of time now to our first ever Football League season and match no 10 of our very first league campaign saw our first ever visit to our neighbours at Oakwell. They were by now an established 2nd division team, but a crowd of only 2,000 turned up to see Town win 2-1 in November 1910, with goals from Scotsmen James Richardson and Sandy McCubbin. We completed the double in February with a 2-0 victory at Leeds Road, goals this time from Joe Jee and James Macauley.

We continued in the same division in the rest of the pre war years, maintaining a 100% win record at Leeds Road. We extended that further in the 1919/20 season by beating them 4-1. An own goal from TJ Tindall, one from Sammy Taylor and a couple from Jack Swann gave us a 4-1 win.

And that was it for a few years as we got promoted and spent the next few decades in the First Division. The next game came in the FA Cup 3rd round of 1946/47 and they got their first ever win at Leeds Road in a shock 4-3 scoreline. I don't have a record of their scorers but ours came from Albert Bateman and two from footballing legend Peter Doherty, one of the finest footballers of the time.

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We eventually got relegated in 1952 and met up in the league again. We bounced straight back up and got maximum points off Barnsley, beating them 6-0 at ours (Jimmy Glazzard 2, Vic Metcalfe 2, Willie Davie, Len Quested), with a 33,000 crowd. And then won 4-2 at theirs with a Tommy Cavanagh hat trick and another one from Glazzard.

Barnsley had been relegated, but had come back up by the time we dropped back down again to Div 2. It was business as usual though as we pumped them 5-0 at Oakwell (Dave Hickson, Les Massie, Jackie Marriott, Ron Simpson 2) and then 2-0 at Leeds Road with Simpson again on target as well as Tony Conwell (who died just a few days before we won at Wembley in May 2107).

The next season though saw a reverse of that 5-0 game when they came to ours and hammered us by that scoreline, their first league win at ours. We won at Oakwell though, 3-2 with goals from Massie, Simpson and Kevin McHale. That was followed by one more season together in Div 2, with each match won by the home team. Barnsley then got relegated and flirted between the two bottom divisions, meaning we didn't meet up again until the 70s.

We did however meet in the FA cup again in 1961. Town had just beaten the famous Wolves team of the time 2-1 under the brand new "Denis Law" floodlights, in front of a 46,155, when the Tykes came over for a Yorkshire derby. It was exciting times again, in front of another huge crowd. This time 44,761 turned out for another floodlit game, but Barnsley got a 1-1 draw and then beat us 1-0 in the replay.

So fast forward to 1975. Town had plummeted through the leagues and we now found ourselves in Division Four. First of all, we met in the first round of the League Cup. Like the previous game fifteen years earlier, it was played under the Leeds Road lights. We had now slumped to a crowd of 4,200. We won though with goals from Terry Gray and Terry Dolan in a 2-1 first leg win. Bobby Campbell scored to take us through on aggregate in the 2nd leg to face League Champions Derby County. We won in the league game in November at Oakwell, 3-2 with two from Jimmy Lawson and one from Steve Smith. Both of them being survivors from our glorious 2nd division championship winning side from just five years previous. They got their own back though, winning 2-1 at ours towards the end of the season, when the crowd had picked up to just over ten thousand.

We stayed in the 4th division together for four seasons, in which time they beat us 1-0 in the FA Cup. Our last meeting in the basement league came at the start of May 1979. We had a huge backlog of fixtures following a really harsh winter. We had played ten matches in April and now Barnsley came to ours on a Wednesday night for our fourth match in a week. They were pushing for promotion and had a young Mick McCarthy at centre back. Me and my dad were sat in our usual places in the centre stand and had some really annoying gobby Barnsley fans sat behind us. They left sulkingly quiet as an Ian Robins goal spoilt their evening as we beat them 1-0. It didn't stop them going up though.

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We went up in the next season and so we met for the first time in the 3rd division (we still haven't met in the top tier). Both teams won their home matches 1-0, but the one at ours was another famous one. It was the one where Barnsley came to ours on a club record unbeaten run, top of the league and the YTV cameras were there as well. Another famous goal from David Cowling won it for us in front of 28,901 spectators, the largest Leeds Road crowd between the first division days and the closure.



Unfortunately, while they went up with Rotherham as champions and Charlton in third, we finished 4th, in the days before Play Offs and so we didn't play each other again until 83/84 when we met in Division Two for the first time since 1959. We had five seasons together, until we got relegated. The most notable of those games was on Easter Monday 1986 when Duncan Shearer scored a hat trick on his full debut in a 3-1 win at their place.

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We got back up again in 1995 and so met the Reds once more. This season we played four times, twice in the league and a two legged League Cup tie. Each game was a comprehensive home win with not a single away goal scored. We got the upper hand in September beating them 3-0 in the league (Ronnie Jepson, Simon Collins, Andy Booth) and then 2-0 in the Cup a week later with Collins and Boothy again scoring. Then it all went wrong. We went there for the 2nd leg and got walloped 4-0. And then in March we lost 0-3 there.

The next season, Tom Cowan scored a bizarre goal, direct from a long throw. It's gone down as a goal for Andy Morrison, but replays on tv showed he was nowhere near it. Didn't matter. We lost 1-3. Which wasn't as bad as the next season when we lost 1-7 (and they missed a penalty) on a Friday night in front of the Sky Sports cameras. Bruce Dyer scored twice that night and you can see what he's up to now in the Where Are They Now section below.

They kept the upper hand, winning more times than we did for the next few meetings. The next significant season came in 2005/06 when we were in the 3rd tier, by now calling itself League One. We drew 2-2 at Oakwell and we won 1-0 with a Gary Taylor-Fletcher goal at the Galpharm Stadium. By the end of the season, we were in 4th and they were 5th and so we met up at theirs for the first leg of the Play Offs semis. And it was GTF with a late winner that gave us the edge with a one goal lead to take back to ours. All was going well with a goal less first half, but then Mr Foy, the chief blind mouse on the night, gave them a penalty. Paul Hayes scored it, but not to worry, Jon Worthington scored from a tight angle to put us back in front on aggregate. It wasn't to be though. Goals from Paul Reid (no not that one) and Daniel Nardiello put the Colliers through to play Swansea in the Final.

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It would be another six years before we actually got our act together and joined them in the Championship. So we met in 2012/13 and we won at theirs with another 1-0 win. Jermaine Beckford getting the goal this time. But that was nowt compared to the excruciating excitement of the return fixture on the last day of the season. I'm sure we all remember that 2-2 draw and how both teams stopped trying after James Vaughan had equalised in the 81st minute and news came through that a draw would keep both of us up and send poor old Peterborough down.

We beat them 5-0 at home in the next season and in the next one, when we went up in 2016/17, we beat them at home again. Chris Löwe put us ahead before Alfie Mawson equalised just after the break. And as the game headed for a draw, up popped the prolific Jonathan Hogg with a last minute winner. The last goal he scored until last week's consolation goal against Bournemouth.

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So what's going on down at Oakwell? Managed nowadays by Valérien Ismaël, the former Crystal Palace defender. Born in Strasbourg, France 45 years ago, he started his footy career with his hometown club, making his debut as a centre back in 1994. He went on to play 87 games for them before Palace forked out £2.75m to take him to Selhurst Park for what was then, a club record. It didn't work out as planned though and he only stayed in London for ten months, turning out on only 13 occasions for the Eagles before naffing off back to France. He signed for Lens and played just short of a hundred matches for them, but part of his time there was spent back on loan at Strasbourg. He signed back full time with them in 2003 and was made club captain. His next move was to cross the border into Germany and he played for Werder Bremen, Bayern Munich and Hannover 96.
Injury forced his retirement in 2009 and he was offered the assistant manager's role at Hannover. He then took the role of managing their 2nd XI, followed by a similar role at Wolfsburg. He had a short unsuccessful spell at FC Nürnberg in 2015, returning to Wolfsburg when he got sacked. He was then promoted to Head Coach in November 2016, but was given the boot by February and so was out of work for over a year, before going to Greece and landing a job with Apollon Smyrnis. That appointment lasted for one match!
And that's when things started to improve for him. He took over at Austrian Bundesliga side LASK in 2019 and got them off to their best ever start to a season. They got to the group stage of the Europa League for the first time, won their group, then beat AZ Alkmaar before eventually getting knocked out by Manchester Utd. But then along came the Covid break. He was heavily criticised after he made the players return too soon and had them making full bodily contact. They were docked points and he was dismissed in July 2020.
He wasn't unemployed long, as he became Head Coach of Barnsley in October and against everybody's expectations, took them from relegation probables, to mid table safety and then up to a play off spot. Could he be the one to take these "perennial strugglers" to the Premier League?

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Who's in their squad then? Their main man and captain is Alex Mowatt and he has been a pain in our arse before. He's a Donny lad and played for the Beeston BellEnders, joining their Academy as a 9 year old. He broke into the first team in the 2013/14 season, scoring his first goal for the White Shite against........ yes, it was us. That game when Brian McDermott had just been sacked and we were taking the piss a bit too much. They pumped us 5-1 and Mowatt finished the season as their Player of the Season. He followed that up a couple of years later with a worldie, scored in front of the away fans at the John Smith's as they stuffed us again.
But then it started to go wrong for him. Garry Monk got the Leeds job and Mowatt's form sunk. He played for them in the game at Bellend Road that we won 1-0 with an Aaron Mooy classic, but by the time they came to ours and Michael Hefele got a spectacular last minute winner, he had been sold to Barnsley for only a half a million quid. He was sent off on his Barnsley debut, at home to Wolves and in the next season, manager Paul Flippineckingbottom sent him out on loan to Oxford United.
He was back at Oakwell for the next season, but they had been relegated to League One in his absence. They went straight back up again and in 19/20, he scored against us again. That was the game at their place when they beat us 2-1 but Lewis O'Brien scored our Goal of the Season. He won Player of the Season and then the other week, he won the Championship Player of the Month for March. He's still only 26 and out of contract at the end of the season. Barnsley fans are desperate for him to stay.

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Their leading scorer this season, Cauley Woodrow, is another one who has scored against us in the past. A rather annoying goal indeed it was as well. That was when he played for Fulham, back in 2015, coming on as a sub to equalise in the last minute to deny us what would've been our first win at Craven Cottage in donkey's years. He left Fulham for Barnsley in 2018 and his goal tally has reached double figures in each season since.

Up top with him is likely to be Daryl Dike, a big American lad, on loan from Orlando City. He's only 20 years old but has already made his debut for the USA international side. And it was this first cap he got that qualified him for his work permit. He's done alright since signing on deadline day, scoring 8 goals already.

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They have other strikers. Ex Portsmouth and Coventry player Conor Chaplin, who scored 13 goals last season, one against us. Carlton Morris signed in the January window from Norwich. He had been on loan at MK Dons, but was recalled and sold to Barnsley on the same day. George Miller, who was on loan at Scunthorpe last season. Austrian Dominik Frieser signed in the summer and has been a regular this season. And Victor Adeboyejo, who signed from Leyton Orient in 2017.

In goal recently has been Brad Collins, an ex Chelsea Academy lad who never made their first team. He joined Barnsley last season. He has shared the number one spot this season with Jack Walton, who came through their own Academy.

In defence a rather annoying Polish international, who scored twice against us on Boxing Day, called Michał Helik. He played at Wembley last month against England. Toby Sibbick, a 21 year old signing from AFC Wimbledon. The Dane Mads Juel Andersen, who signed from AC Horsens in 2019 for 900 grand. Full back Callum Brittain came from MK Dons in the summer.

There's also two Williams boys. Jordan Williams signed from Town in 2018 and Ben Williams, a Welsh lad who arrived from Blackburn in the same year. Liam Kitching signed in January and must have thought he was the main man when given the number 5 shirt, but he still hasn't made his debut. Kenyan Clarke Oduor signed from Leeds. He hasn't been a regular but will be remembered fondly not only in Barnsley but also in West Bromwich for scoring the injury time winner against Brentford at the end of last season which kept Barnsley up and at the same time promoted the Baggies. Another signing from Beeston is Aapo Halme, a Finnish defender. Michael Sollbauer is an Austrian who arrived last season. Also on the bench recently has been 20 year old Jasper Moon.

In midfield Callum Styles signed in 2018 from his home town club Bury. Romal Palmer came through the Man City Academy. Herbie Kane signed from Liverpool, for whom he played two League Cup matches. He spent the last couple of seasons on loan at Doncaster and then Hull.




Sunday's line up away to Coventry:
40 Collins
20 Sibbick
30 Helik
6 Andersen
7 Brittain
21 Palmer
27 Mowatt
4 Styles
11 Chaplin
9 Woodrow
10 Dike

Subs
1 Walton
2 Williams
14 Morris
22 Oduor
24 Halme
26 Sollbauer
28 Frieser
29 Adeboyejo
34 Moon



Club connections: There are far too many connections between our two clubs to do them all. I've come up with fifty names so far. Here's a few of them who's stories you may find interesting.......

Ernie Hine was born in Barnsley in 1901 and died 74 years later in Huddersfield. In between those years, he played for both clubs as an inside right. He first joined Barnsley in 1921 and scored on his debut in an FA Cup game against Norwich. By the time he left for Leicester in 1926, he had scored 81 goals for the Reds. He did even better at Filbert Street, scoring twice on his debut, clocking up 148 goals in six seasons, as well as getting 6 England caps.  
The scoring on debut sequence ended when he signed for us in 1932, we lost 0-1 at Portsmouth. He only played half a season for us before transferring to Manchester United. He did score in his second game though, a 4-1 home win against Leicester, the club he'd just departed. He followed that with two at home to Chelsea and another one at Brammall Lane, by which time he had four goals in six games. All going well.
But then he went eighteen games without a goal. The worst goal drought of his career. So he was offloaded to Old Trafford, where he stayed for a couple of seasons. Then he returned to Oakwell to play out the remainder of his playing career. Thirty three years old by now, he still managed to play another four seasons. In the second of those come back seasons, he scored a hat trick against Leicester and also scored the winner in an FA Cup game at Oakwell against Stoke in front of Barnsley's record crowd of 40,255.
He hung up his boots in 1938, by which time he had become Barnsley's all time record goal scorer, and still is to this day. He bagged 131 goals in 310 games and his overall goal tally stands at 287. But you can add to that 4 goals for England and 20 goals playing for a Football League XI on a tour of Canada in 1931.

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Ernie Hine


Arthur Fairclough was Barnsley's first manager when they came into the FL in 1898. He stayed there for three years, left for three years and then came back to manage the club from 1904 to 1912. He was in charge when they won the FA Cup in 1912, but that was his last game as Barnsley manager because just three days later he was appointed manager of Huddersfield Town. Club loyalty meant more in those days and managers didn't generally shift clubs willy nilly. However, Fairclough, having ditched Barnsley in their hour of glory, and then having managed Huddersfield Town throughout the wartime years, upped and jumped ship in December 1919 to be part of the treacherous attempted takeover of our club by the newly formed Leeds Urinals. He got Leeds promoted in 1924, but then in 1929 went back for another short spell in charge of Barnsley.

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Arthur Fairclough


Frank Chivers played for both clubs, joining Town from Barnsley in 1936. He played fifty league games for us and 4 FA cup matches, before the war came and he only played twice more for us. The last of those was in 1941, as he was working as a coal miner as his "war service" (stated on his death certificate), so possibly he was one of the so called Bevin Boys. Anyway, it was doing this work when his life ended. He was one of four men who were killed on the 24th of April 1942 in an accident at Barnburgh Main Colliery.

Ray Wood played seven seasons for us, but is mostly remembered as a survivor of the Munich Air Disaster. After taking his apprenticeship with Newcastle, he started his league career with Darlington before joining Man Utd in 1949. He gradually became first choice and was well established by the time they reached the 1957 FA Cup Final against Aston Villa. Unfortunately for Ray, he had his jaw broken in the 6th minute of the match and had to come off, while Jackie Blanchflower went in goal. This was still ten years before the football authorities had had the sense to introduce substitutes and so Ray came back on, with his broken jaw after half an hour. Not in goal though. He played the rest of the match on the right wing. Well almost, he actually went back in goal for the final ten minutes. Villa won 2-1 but Ray finished the season with a League Champions medal anyway.
By the next season, Ray had been replaced in goal by Harry Gregg, but was in the travelling party for that fateful match against Red Star Belgrade in February 1958. He got lucky, only receiving minor injuries in the plane crash, but he only ever played one more game for United and so Bill Shankly brought him to Leeds Road later on that year. He played in 207 matches for us before leaving to go and play in Canada in 1965, with John Oldfield getting his place between the sticks. After his time in Toronto, he came back and played for Bradford City and then in 1966 signed for Barnsley for a couple of seasons, making 30 appearances for the Tykes.
Matt Busby tried to take him back to Old Trafford but he went into management instead. He managed teams all over the world including the USA, Ireland, Zambia, Canada, Greece, Kenya, Kuwait and United Arab Emirates. He coached Cyprus and Kenya national teams and also coached the NASL team Los Angeles Wolves and the Cypriot team APOEL in 1971–72. He retired to Bexhill-on-Sea, where he died in 2002, aged 71.

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Neil Warnock doesn't need any introduction. He's won more promotions in the Football League than anybody else, one of them of course, being with us in 1994/95. He has managed more than 1,500 matches in his time as well, but what about his playing career? Well he totalled 327 games, playing as a winger, scoring 36 goals. Fifty seven of those games came in the red shirt of Barnsley between 1976 and 78, scoring ten goals for them.

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Dean Gorré is considered to be one of the best players to pull on a Town shirt over the last twenty odd years. But if you look at his record online, it doesn't show up as such. But believe us, if you never saw him, he was fantastic. He signed on at Town in 1999 from Ajax, one of the first signings for Steve Bruce and scored his first Town goal in the League Cup against Notts County. He scored his first league goals, two of them, against Swindon Town in a 4-0 win at home and then a couple of weeks later scored the only goal of the game in our customary home win over the Baggies.
He played a massive part of that almost successful season, starring in wins over Forest, Man City, Grimsby and that famous League Cup win at Stamford Bridge, but as the season fizzled out following the sale of Marcus Stewart to Ipswich, his form faded, culminating with that horrendous end of season defeat at Fulham. He stuck around for the next season, but we got relegated and he left for Barnsley at the end of the season, who were still in Division One (2nd tier that we now call the Championship).
He had three seasons there, scoring nine goals in 65 games, then had one match for Blackpool before hanging up his boots. He has been married to Magali now for 21 years and she herself became a tv star, turning out in the classy show The Real Housewives of Cheshire. They have three sons, all footballers, and the eldest son, Kenji Gorré who played for Swansea, is now playing in the Portugal Primeira Liga with Nacional.
Dean was born in Suriname and in 2015 was appointed Head Coach of their national team. He only stayed in that job for a year and ended up scouting for Reading. But then in 2018 he was reappointed in the national job and has been there ever since.

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Deano and Magali


Jimmy Robson was one of the backroom staff during the Mick Buxton days at Leeds Road and continued as such when the great man had left. He even had one match in charge as caretaker between Steve Smith leaving and Malcolm Macdonald being appointed. That was a 1-4 defeat at home to Boro, so gloss over that one. But earlier in his career he was a dashing inside forward for Burnley, when they were a proper team, winning the League title in 1960 and scored a goal in the 1962 FA Cup Final. Towards the back end of his playing days, he had a couple of seasons at Barnsley, playing 83 times for them, scoring 15 goals. He's 83 years old now, but was recently revealed as one of the many ex footballers who are now suffering from Alzheimers.

Others involved with managing include Andy Ritchie and Bobby Collins, who managed both clubs. Mel Machin managed Barnsley and was cartetaker for us when Mick Wadsworth was sacked. Wadsworth was born in Barnsley but never played or managed his home town club. Town legend Jordan Rhodes never played for Barnsley, but he did come through their Academy. And current Barnsley squad member Jordan Williams came through our Academy. He played once for us, a League Cup match against Rotherham in 2017.

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Like I said, I came up with 50 names of varying success at either club and there quite possibly are many more. How many of these do you remember or would quite like to forget? Ian Banks, John Bettany, Mick Butler, Jacob Butterfield, Jake Charles, Nick Colgan, Martin Cranie (seems to get a mention in every match thread I do), David Currie, Liam Dickinson, Kevin Donovan, Andy Duggan, John Dungworth, Kevin Gallen, Lee Glover, Adam Hammill, Paul Hayes, Kallum Higginbotham, Jack Hunt, Mark Jackson, Antony Kay, Leon Knight, Rob Kozluk, Tony Leighton, Brian Mahoney, Dwayne Mattis, John McCann, Adie Moses, Brendan O'Connell, Fola Onibuje, Bob Parker, Jon Parkin, Andy Payton, Gary Pierce, Graham Pugh, John Saunders, Malcolm Shotton, Mark Smith and Robbie Williams.  


Where are they now? Bruce Dyer....... since scoring a couple in that disastrous night at Oakwell in 98/99 against us, Bruce, or as he's now known, Pastor Bruce Dyer, has become the founder of the Love Life UK Church in Blucher Street, Barnsley (just round t' corner from t' Post Office in tarn). He hosts five a side games in prisons around the country, as well as offering help and support. Looks after the homeless and addicts and he also runs an Academy for schoolkids in Barnsley.
His wife, Janine Dyer, is also busy in the Church and is much more famous than Bruce ever was. She is one of the leading Gospel Singers in the country and appeared on BBC's The Voice in 2016. Here she is......




Barnsley in popular culture: Obviously, when you think of Barnsley, you think of coal mining. Well I say that, but anybody under 20 probably won't. But those of us who do, will remember this film, Brassed Off. Set at Grimethorpe, not during the miner's strike of 1984/85, but ten years after when the pit is faced with closure again. Anyway, if you love Brass Band music, you'll love this......



But it's not just old, shut down pits. In Carlton you'll find the Mr Kipling factory. It has been making Mr Kipling products since 1975, produces a billion cakes a year and can churn our 864 fondant fancies and 1,000 cake slices per minute. There are 750 core staff and 150 extra workers recruited at Easter, when 21 million cakes are made every week. That's some going if they make them one at a time like this.......



But apart from Mr Kipling, who else do we have? Well I may have mentioned before that me and my dad once sat behind Charlie Williams at a match at Oakwell many years ago. Charlie was born in Royston in 1927. His dad had moved to England from Barbados in 1914 and spent the war years with the Royal Engineers. After the war, he settled in Royston, selling groceries from an 'oss 'n' cart. The old fella had to pack this in eventually when the trenchfoot he acquired during the war became too bad and sadly died when Charlie was only 14.
Young Charlie got a job at Upton Colliery and as such spent the second world war darn t' pit in a reserved occupation. But after the war, he became a professional footballer. He played for Doncaster Rovers and was one of the first black footballers to play in the Football League. He turned out 171 times for Rovers, scoring just one goal. And that one goal was scored against his home town club at Oakwell.
He packed in football in 1959 and became a club singer in the Working Men's Clubs around Barnsley. That was just the start and by the mid 1970s, he was Mr Light Entertainment himself, presenting the biggest show on TV at the time, The Golden Shot and performing at the world famous Batley Variety Club.

Quote:You have to understand that was perfect for the time that he appeared. It was a brilliant thing, this black Yorkshireman who played football with Doncaster Rovers, who'd had the wartime experience of white Yorkshire people, who talked like them, who thought like them, but who just happened to be black. And when he came along it was astounding to hear this bloke talking like "Eh up, flower, eh. Hey, have you ever been to supermarket where they have the broken biscuits?". I think it was a huge culture shock for people. And Charlie exploited this to the full.

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We still don't have a statue of him though. Surely Black Lives Matter ought to be campaigning for one.

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And we can't talk about Barnsley without mentioning the classic film Kes. Directed by Ken Loach in 1969, it starred David Bradley as the young schoolboy Billy Casper, who taught himself falconry after stealing a kestrel chick from a nest and a book from the library.
Not the most promising plotline for a family friendly film, but never mind all that, here is the most memorable part of the film. Brian Glover as the big bully sports teacher as Bobby Charlton in the football match.




The school is still there, but has been totally rebuilt. Looks nowt like that now. The mineworks in the background behind the goal that Casper's defending is the Wharncliffe Woodmoor Colliery, which is now an industrial estate. The church in the background is still there though. If you were wondering.  Tongue




Other Championship matches this week:

Tuesday:
Brentford v Cardiff City
Norwich City v Watford
Preston North End v Derby County
Sheffield Wednesday v Blackburn Rovers
Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers

Wednesday:
Millwall v AFC Bournemouth
Rotherham United v Middlesbrough
Stoke City v Coventry City
Wycombe Wanderers v Bristol City
Birmingham City v Nottingham Forest
Luton Town v Reading


Recent form - last 6 matches:
Forest 0-2 Town
Town 1-2 Bournemouth
Town 0-0 Rotherham
Norwich 7-0 Town
Town 1-1 Brentford
Sheff Weds 1-1 Town

Coventry 2-0 Barnsley
Barnsley 2-0 Middlesbrough
Luton 1-2 Barnsley
Barnsley 1-1 Reading
Barnsley 1-2 Sheff Weds
Wycombe 1-3 Barnsley

Town are 20th with 47 points, Barnsley are in 6th with 71.


Leading scorers:
Town:
Frazier Campbell (7)
Josh Koroma (6)
Isaac Mbenza (5)
Juninho Bacuna (5)

Tarn:
Cauley Woodrow (13)
Daryl Dike (8)
Alex Mowatt (8)
Carlton Morris (6)
Michal Helik (6)



April the 21st down the ages: How did we get on in previous matches played on this date?

1909: Hartlepools Utd (h) North Eastern League, drew 0-0
1916: Rochdale (a) Wartime Midland League, drew 1-1 (Holley)
1917: Bradford PA (h) Wartime Midland League, WON 2-0 (Frank Mann, Thomas Elliott)
1923: Liverpool (a) Div 1, drew 1-1 (George Brown)
1928: Blackburn Rovers (Wembley) FA Cup Final, lost 1-3 (Alex Jackson)
1934: Middlesbrough (a) Div 1, lost 0-3
1945: Middlesbrough (a) Wartime League North, lost 1-2 (Jimmy Glazzard)
1951: Charlton Athletic (h) Div 1, drew 1-1 (Jeff Taylor)
1956: Tottenham Hotspur (a) Div 1, WON 2-1 (Maurice Norman og, Dave Hickson)
1962: Bury (a) Div 2, WON 2-1 (Kevin McHale 2)
1973: Cardiff City (a) Div 2, lost 1-4 (Alan Gowling)
1979: Torquay Utd (a) Div 4, lost 1-2 (Ian Holmes)
1981: Walsall (h) Div 3, drew 1-1 (Mark Lillis)
1984: Leeds Utd (h) Div 2, drew 2-2 (Mel Eves, Steve Doyle)
1990: Rotherham Utd (h) Div 3, WON 2-1 (Keith Edwards)
2001: Queens Park Rangers (h) Div One (2nd tier), WON 2-1 (Dean Gorré, Delroy Facey)
2003: Stockport County (a) Div Two (3rd tier), lost 1-2 (Andy Booth)
2007 Millwall (h) League One (3rd tier), WON 4-2 (Michael Collins, Mark Hudson, Luke Beckett 2,1 pen)
2012: Scunthorpe Utd (h) League One (3rd tier), WON 1-0 (Lee Novak)
2014: Yeovil Town (a) Championship, WON 2-1 (Nahki Wells, Adam Clayton)

Not bad. Won more than we've lost. Unbeaten since 2003.

Played: 20
WON: 8
Drew: 6
Lost: 6


The game against Hartlepools Utd in 1909 was in our first ever season, in the North Eastern League. It wasn't a great start. We finished 16th out of 18 teams. Hartlepool were know as Hartlepools United up until 1968 when they decided to drop the 's'. They were pluralised because they were an amalgamation of West Hartlepool and Old Hartlepool.

The Holley, who scored against Rochdale in the Wartime League in 1916, I can't find any record of. But there was a George Holley around at the time. He had played for Sunderland and England before the war, winning the League and reaching the FA Cup Final with them in 1913. As many teams had guest players turning out during the hostilities, I might have to assume this was him. Whoever he was, he played 11 games in the season, scoring 7 goals.

Frank Mann, who scored in the win over Bradford Park Avenue in 1917, scored 68 goals in his time as a Town player, both sides of the war. However, he scored another 32 during the wartime leagues, which added to his official goal tally would take him to 100. He later signed for Manchester Utd and continued playing til he was 39 years old and was until recently the oldest player to play for them.

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The 1928 FA Cup Final was our first trip to Wembley Stadium, having won the last final, in 1922, to be played outside of Wembley.

Jeff Taylor, who scored in the draw against Charlton in 1951, I mentioned in the Brentford thread. He was the one who packed in football to become an Opera Singer.

Dave Hickson, who scored in the win against Spurs in 1956, is an Everton legend and was for many years employed in a similar role to what Boothy does for us nowadays. He played for us in between two spells at Goodison and when Bill Shankly left us for Liverpool in 1959, Dave was one of the first players he signed. Later in his career he played for Tranmere Rovers, making him one of only three players to have done all three of the current Merseyside league clubs.

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The draw with Leeds Urinals at Leeds Road in 1984 was the one where the dirty scum rioted in the open end. Some lad I worked with was one of the Leeds fans carried out by the police and was both big headed and embarrassed about it when he was shown on Calendar being ejected. Embarrassed because he admitted he hadn't actually done owt and was just stood in the way. I don't think he ever went again.

Keith Edwards, who scored twice in the 1990 win against Rotherham, is a legend at two clubs, Hull City and Sheffield United. He scored 96 for the Tigers over two spells and 114 for the Blunts, before winding down his career at Town. He scored 8 in 28 for us.

On this day in 2001, we relegated QPR, by beating them 2-1. It didn't do us any good though as a couple of weeks later, we joined them in being relegated.

And two years later, when we lost at Stockport, we were all but relegated again. That game was on the Easter Monday and relegation was confirmed on the following Saturday when we got pumped at Port Vale.

Mark Hudson, who scored against Millwall in the win on this day in 2007, isn't the same one who skippered us to promotion in 2007. This one was a journeyman midfielder, who we signed on a free from Chesterfield and left without ceremony to Rotherham after his contract expired. He did however, start his career with Middlesbrough, with whom he played 5 times in the Premier League.


Club connection anagrams:

  1. Bum Tickler  
  2. Lucifer Jed Abbott  
  3. Cognac Link  
  4. Manic Trainer  
  5. Roger Dane  
  6. Junk Chat  
  7. Annoy Katy  
  8. Ismail Wobblier  
  9. Cynthia Reid  
  10. Colin Wanker  



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  HTAFC Prediction League 2020/21 Matchday 34
Posted by: Lord Snooty - 8 hours ago - Forum: Huddersfield Town - No Replies

2 points for a correct result
4 points for a correct score
2 points for each correct scorer
Correct joker doubles your score   Laugh    
Wrong joker result gives you minus 2
Correct Random Badger gives you 2 points Badger

The random badger Badger is used for any random prediction used once in each matchday sequence. For instance, a scorer at a particular match, the number of red cards in the matches or yellow cards or own goals or owt you want really within reason, I do need to be able to check whether it's correct or not. Please don't put stuff like....."Commentator says...."  Rolleyes
The joker  Laugh is played for one match in each sequence and if correct you get double points. So if you've predicted 1-0 and it finishes 2-0, you get 4 pts, but if you've predicted 2-0, that's 8 pts. But if you get it wrong, it's minus 2.
Jokers and badgers are optional. You don't have to play one if you don't want.


Cup games:
In the event of a draw, it's half the points if you've predicted a draw when it gets to 90 mins and the full points if it's still a draw after extra time. Half the points will be awarded for correctly predicting the winner of the match if it goes to penalties.

Random score generator: I will be using the random score generator again for those who miss predicting, so we shouldn't get some people too far behind that after missing a couple of weeks they lose all interest, because I know it's not easy getting on here every week.
To be fair to everybody, this is going to be like, say if three people in one week miss their predictions, the first one in the table will be given all 0-0, the second one down the line will get 1-0 and the third will get 0-1 and so on, like if there's four missing the 4th will get 1-1, then 5th 2-1, 6th 1-2. and if there are so many missing, might as well pack in. Wink
And if you miss two weeks on the trot, I'll stop until you come back on again. Not doing it for half a season like I did t'other year.  Rolleyes

Saturday April 24th:
Blackburn v Town
Town scorers:
Blackburn scorers:

AFC Bournemouth v Brentford (12:30)
Barnsley v Rotherham United
Cardiff City v Wycombe Wanderers
Coventry City v Preston North End
Derby County v Birmingham City
Middlesbrough v Sheffield Wednesday
Nottingham Forest v Stoke City
Queens Park Rangers v Norwich City
Watford v Millwall

Sunday 25th April:
Reading v Swansea City (12:00)
Bristol City v Luton Town (13:00)

Tuesday 27th April:
Brentford v Rotherham United (19:00)

Bonus match:
Sunday:
League Cup Final:

Manchester City v Tottenham Hotspur (16:30)

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  European Super League
Posted by: Lord Snooty - Yesterday, 23:21 - Forum: Huddersfield Town - Replies (8)

I can't believe Phil Hodgkinson has not made an announcement yet stating that Huddersfield Town will not be breaking away from the EFL to be part of this proposed European Super League. Until such a statement is made, I assume that we are one of the six supposed top clubs said to be behind this move.

In the mean time, here's Gary Neville's take on this subject. What do you's think about this?

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  The Big Six Are Off
Posted by: Salopbaggie - Yesterday, 22:47 - Forum: West Bromwich Albion - Replies (27)

So it has been rumoured for years but it looks like it is finally happening the big six Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United and Tottenham have all signed up to to a European Super League. Good or bad it proves if there was any doubt at all that its all about the money and who gives a dam about football. Interesting times.

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  Chesterfield Prediction League 2020/21 Matchday 46
Posted by: spireitematt - 17-04-2021, 21:43 - Forum: Chesterfield - Replies (1)

Aldershot Town 2-2 King's Lynn Town
Boreham Wood 2-0 Barnet
Chesterfield 1-2 FC Halifax Town
Wealdstone 1-0 Maidenhead United
Woking 0-3 Torquay United


League Table After Matchday 45
Lord Snoots = 452
Amelia = 400
Spireitematt = 362
Dancing = 326
Devon = 322
St Charles = 300

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  OVERALL PRED/LEAGUE RSLTS 25/26
Posted by: Baggiebob(BBB) - 16-04-2021, 12:37 - Forum: West Bromwich Albion - No Replies

WEEK          9   10    11   12  13  14   15   16  17   18   19  20        21  22  23  24   25  26
                                                                                                                            PTS                 

1 BBB       109(1) 129 155 158 163 173 186 196 205 208 215 235  254 250 254 264 273 293           BW    26 20

2 MINIZIN  94 97/3 119/4 124(5) 129 141 164/4 180(2)188 193 96(3) 213(2) 216 228 237 254 262            23 22

3 SANJAY   74 88/7 110/5 138(2} 154 156/3 172/2 173/3) 178(4)181 187 197/5-203/4-212(3)222 237 246   28 22

4 S/C        93 108(2)121 129(3)148 158(2)170/3)170/4 181(3)190 197/2 209/3 203/4 201/5 208(4)224 233 238   BW 23 19

5 BAGGIE1 55 67/16 92/14 94/15 96/16 102/15 125/12 142/11 155/9 170/6 183(5)197 205/3 207/4 207(5)220 223 237            BW 25 23

5 SILVER    63 67/15 97/10 110/12 119/9 122/10 147/7 149/8 150/11 156/12 162/11 181/8 181/9 201/5 201/7 219/6 228(5)237         BW 25 20

7 ZINMAN 88 92/4 121/3 127(4) 141 150 158(5) 168 169/6 169/7 171/8 178/9 183/8 190/7 202/6 212(7) 222 234                                     BW 29 13

8 STAIRS  87 86/10 100/8 111(7)123 139(6)154 166 170(5)171 178(6)189 186/7 189(8)192 208/9 215(8)231                                            BW 16 15

9 BOMBER 73 87(9)97(10)99(13)110(11)122(10)130(11)138(12)146 157(8)166(10)172/12-177(11)182/12 191/11 211(8)215 228(9)        BW 12 11

10 AAA   74 80/12  97(10)104 115 117/12 137/10 144 158/8 162/10 171/8 182 189/6 185/9 185/14 198/12 202/11 218/10                            BW  20 17


11 SOM'T 82 80/11 98/9 107/8 123(7)129 138(9)145 155 161(11)162 175 175/12 184/10 192/8 192/13 207/10 215/11                            BW  18 16

12 SNOOTY 60 69(13)87/15 98(14)100(15)96(17)98 109(16)119 131(15)144(14)158 175/12 177/14 188/12 203/10 214/12                            BW 18 15

13 JOKER  86 90(6)94(13)103(11)105(14)113/13 113/14 127(13) 131 141 146 169 174/14 184/10 192/8 192/13 202/11 213/13                  BW 23 14

14 DD   42 51(20)74(17)85(17)110(11)126(8)141 150(7)159 164/9 174(7)178(8)178/9 179/10 181/13 188/12 199/11 197/14 204/14     BW 25 23

15 DERBY 54 69(14)84(16)92 94(17)101(16)111(15)127(14)122(15)133(14)137(15)147 157 160 177 187 185 198         BW   17 15

16 AMELIA 76 91(5)107(6)117 127 123(9)123(13)125(14)126 125(16)125(17)133 139(16)151 166 178 183 193                      BW   16 15

17 L/JANE 58 66(17)69(18)72(20)83(18)85(19)96(18)105(18)107(17)115 127 138 137 136 140 151 165 180 191                    BW  17 15 

18 THEM   53 60(18)67(20)75(18)83 92 94(19)94(20)94(19)107 123(18) 130 133 134 143 162 170 177                                    BW  19 13

19 TWTON  49 51(19)69(18)73(19)79(20)84-89 -102(19)98(18)112-109-113(19)120(17)120(19)127 134 135 154                    BW  19 18



Not a lot of movement over 2 weeks. Somerset - Joker - Bomber dropping places. Amelia now only 2pts clear in the battle for the ladies title. BBB retains 1st place for the 25th consecutive week. Minizin 2nd for the 7th week. And Sanjay 3rd for the 5th week.
All to play for between the 4th and 9th spots with 10pts separating them.

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  Big Dave
Posted by: wba13 - 15-04-2021, 22:04 - Forum: West Bromwich Albion - Replies (5)

Big Dave has puemonia is now having to take time of for the foreseeable future. 

Get well soon BigMan.

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