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| Kashoggi already forgotten - what a moral dilemma!!? |
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Posted by: 0762 - 01-10-2019, 13:14 - Forum: Abstract Chat
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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/indepth/a...spartandhp
This is a curious story when one looks closely at the "cosy associations" that Saudi has with western countries who actually "should know better" but have such huge vested interest in Saudi's oil and other lucrative trade deals that any moral indignation that they could ever muster, re other autocratic countries/leaders who assassinate their peaceful opponents or critics, can be rightly binned in the name of hypocrisy!! The whole exposure and embarrassment re the sadistic, brutal murder of Kashoggi, a state killing in a foreign country without any doubt, has effectively been "swept under the carpet" and life can go on for the likes of the British govt and the USA in their cosy relationships that generate the much-needed revenue that they crave!! It is a sad indictment of the world that we live in and the people within western democracies who preach morality and utter all kindsa "do goody" comments to suit that kinda narrative but they are indeed nothing more than insincere hypocrites who practise on a set agenda that suits their own narrow political ideology - all very sad and unimpressive while the real victims/casualties are the family members of Kashoggi who must be watching this "cover up" in utter amazement and frustration!! NO JUSTICE IN THIS CASE AND THAT WON'T CHANGE ANY TIME SOON EITHER!! IMO the powers of an international court should've been activated with the possibility of bounty hunters being utilised to arrest and detain identified parties who were significant players in the assassination of Kashoggi - bring them to trial much like horrible war criminals who were offenders in mass killings and genocide but would not be allowed protection by their own brutal state/nation or by any western power either!!
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Prediction League Results/Tables Week 8 - Beefy Comeback Stalls |
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Posted by: bomberbrown1968 - 30-09-2019, 23:03 - Forum: West Bromwich Albion
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Pts CS CR GB BB SB
Derby 13 2 3 -3 3 1
Bomber 11 1 4 -3 3 1
Zinman 8 0 5 -3 3 0
St Charles 8 1 3 -3 3 0
A.A.A. 7 1 3 NP -3 0
Themaclad 7 1 2 -3 3 1
Sanjay 5 0 4 NP -3 0
Beefy 5 0 4 NP -3 0
B.B.B. 2 0 2 -3 3 0
Low scoring week this week, mainly due to everyone getting the Gamball incorrect, including those that didn't play it!! Top of the pile this week is Derby with 13 points, he got a week high 2 correct scores as well as his Bonus Ball and for the second week in a row finds himself slowly but surely making a move to get out of the relegation spots!! 2nd spot this week goes to Bomber with the same 11 points total as last week. Scoring on half the games and making the bonus will see you near the top of the weekly table!
Joint 3rd spot goes to our two scorers, Zinman and St Charles with 8 points each. Zinman scored on half the games like Bomber and Derby, but had no correct scores, whereas for once SCO actually got a correct score to add to the Bonus ball they both picked up. AAA and our current leader Themaclad share 5th spot this week on 7 points, of course AAA didn't play the Gamball but for once this actually saved him 3 points as he like everyone else predicted it wrong anyway! For some strange reason AAA put his Bonus Ball on a Boro win!!!! Themaclad only scored points on 3 games but did pick up the Bonus ball and probably just did enough to stay at the top of the League.
Sanjay and Beefy came in joint 7th, each with 5 points. Sanjay got the same as his score last week and continues to struggle after an early flying start. Beefy has become the model of consistency - basically crap each week - although the rest of us are very happy with his improving push for relegation!! Both of them didn't play the Gamball and this saved each of them 3 points!! Bringing up the rear is BBB on just 2 points, its been a season of inconsistency with him so far, so his mid table position is not likely to change as a consequence of only scoring points on 2 games!!
Cheers
SCO
A few ups and downs in the top half of the Premiership, but no change in our pole sitter as themaclad enjoys his third week at the top, though his lead is cut by a couple to just 4 points from Bomber who climbs a place into 2nd as 2 of last years promoted trio show the way to their more established rivals as we go in to the second quarter of the season already.
Zinman drops a place to 3rd having opted to play the Gamball for the 4th time this season, but also failing with again for the 4th time too, it was week 13 last year before he played it this many times and it could be as long again if the current trend continues. Sanjay managed to climb a place up to 4th, but his less than spectacular week also meant he lost further ground on this seasons pacesetters.
BBB suffered a similar poor week that left him in 5th and within a point of slipping again to an improving AAA who continues to outscore those around him, meaning there are actually less than 20 points between top and 6th.
An 8 point gap then to our next two who find themselves tied in 7th, as SCO and Derby fight over a relegation play off place and an automatic drop to the Championship, though it's far too early to say a relegation battle is looming yet.
However, with a 16 point gap down to the bottom of the table, where we find Beefy, it's not too early to write off our eternal optimist, who has been promising a comeback fro the last couple of weeks. It won't be long before the 20+ points forecast comes or the "don't judge me till after Christmas" quote appears
Bomber
Stairs 21pts 1CS 7CR 8GB 3BB 1SB
MightyB 18pts 2CS 7CR -3GB 1SB
Joker 17pts 2CS 7CR -3GB 6BB 0SB
Twerton 12pts 2CS 4CR -3GB 6BB 1SB
BaggieOne 10pts 1CS 5CR -3GB 3BB 0SB
Amelia 8pts 0CS 4CR 0GB 0BB 0SB
Lady Jane 0pts 0CS 1CR -3GB 3BB 0SB
Snooty -2pts 0CS 2CR -3GB -3BB 0SB
A week which saw the Championship putting the so called premier players to shame with some excellent scoring (but not quite for everyone). 3 players got 7 results correct and it was also a good week for the bonus ball with only 1 player losing points on it (that's what happens when you play the bonus on a team yet to win this season and with only 1 win all year). Scoreball points were rarer, largely due to Albion's unexpected but most welcome clean sheet.
Our clear leader this week is Stairs with an exceptional 24 points. He was the only player to score points on the gamball and this also happened to be his only correct score. With a total of 7 correct predictions and extra points from the bonus and scoreball, Stairs might just have got his season kick started. MightyBrom was another impressive scorer with 2 correct scores in his 7 correct predictions, including his bonus and was only denied top spot by losing out on the gamball. Joker appears determined to replace Beefy in the premier league after another solid week. He also got 2 correct scores, including the bonus, and matched Stairs' 7 correct predictions but lost out on the gamball and Albion's clean sheet.
Twerton was the second player to max out his bonus and scored a respectable 12 points with Baggieone the 5th championship player to reach double figures this week. Amelia failed to predict any correct score and on a good week for bonuses, her no ball policy may have been costly - still 8 points represents a decent return.
It may have been a productive week for most players but there are always the exceptions. Lady Jane's only correct prediction was her bonus ball but her points from that were wiped out by the gamball to leave her on zero points for the week. This still wasn't bad enough to put her bottom though, that honour (?) goes yet again to Lord Snooty - 2 correct predictions but a complete failure to gain any ball points leaves him once again on minus 2 for the week - one consolation for him though, at least he's showing some consistency (rather like Huddersfield!)
Zin
Twerton spent his fifth week at the top of the Championship with another decent week as he seems to see off a different challenger every week, his new challenger this week is Joker, 3 points back, who teased Beefy this week that they could be swapping leagues next week - well, if things keep going the way they are, he might not be far off the truth.
BaggieOne slipped a place back to 3rd, though he is just a further 3 points away, while Lady Jane was the victim this week, failing to trouble the scorer and dropping two places back into 4th.
This allowed Mightybrom, posting a seasons best to sit just a solitary point away in 5th, while Stairs pulled out all the stops and was another to post a seasons best by some way. He now climbs into 6th and these two have busted my theory that the league was splitting into two distinct halves so early in the season.
Amelia slipped another place back in to 7th to be closer to her other half, Snooty, who can't buy a good week at the moment and saw his points tally reduce by another couple of points as he suffered a second minus week on the trot.
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| Gareth Macaulay |
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Posted by: BaggieSteve - 30-09-2019, 12:14 - Forum: West Bromwich Albion
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I see GMac has called time in his career. What an absolute star and legend he has been for the Albion. Signed on a free from Ipswich and turned out to be quite magnificent, particularly in his partnership with big Jonas. I really hope the fans are able to give him a send off similar to those given to Jimmy Morrison and Jonas, he truly deserves one.
Thanks GMac, you were brilliant!
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| World Cup: Scotland v Samoa |
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Posted by: 0762 - 30-09-2019, 11:21 - Forum: Rugby Union
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Massive pressure now heaped on the Scottish players and management after Japan's sensational but deserved victory over Ireland. I think we are gonna lose this and will "crash out" of this World Cup tourney! Fingers crossed it is not the case!
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| Town at Stoke City |
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Posted by: Lord Snooty - 29-09-2019, 22:42 - Forum: Huddersfield Town
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Stoke City v Huddersfield Town
The Sky Bet Championship
Tuesday 1st October - 20:00 ko
at the bet365 Stadium
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Huddersfield Town travel to Stoke City on Tuesday night for a battle of the basement. The two worst teams (according to the table) face up to each other in what is an absolute must win game for both sides. We both have only 2 points from the first 9 matches and are already 6 points below the relegation safety point. Town though have a superior goal difference, being on -10 to Stoke's -11.
Town will be hoping to have some injured players back in contention. Terence Kongolo missed the draw at home to Millwall on Saturday after picking up a calf injury the week before at West Brom. Alex Pritchard will also be available again soon, hopefully. We don't know yet whether Danny Cowley will be making many changes to the line up. His two predecessors, David Wagner and Jan Siewert would normally make half a dozen changes for a midweek game. The Cowleys may be more inclined to stick with a settled line up. We shall see. One who could come in is livewire winger Adama Diakhaby, who had by far his best 20 minutes in a Town shirt on Saturday, showing his pace and earning the opponents a red card. He looked much better as an out and out winger with a proper right back in Danny Simpson behind him, allowing him to run and not having to worry about covering for a slow returning wing back. But Elias Kachunga has played well recently and doesn't warrant being dropped, unless of course we are going to go down the wholesale squad rotation route. Hopefully Lewis O'Brien can last a full 90 minutes this time. He's been brilliant in the last couple of first halves, but has been subbed off in the second.
Stoke lost on Friday night at home to Nottingham Forest. After taking an early lead, former England keeper Jack Butland dropped the ball from a cross and much missed ex Town player Joe Lolley punished him by poking home the equaliser. Then just to show that when you're down the bottom end of the league things can go stupidly wrong, our keeper Kamil Grabara went and did the same blumming thing!
A brief history of Stoke City: They were founded in 1863 as Stoke Ramblers, the second oldest professional club (behind Notts County) and founder members of the Football League. Stoke-on-Trent gained city status in 1925 and so the club name became Stoke City.
They had by now moved into their home at the Victoria Ground in 1919, where they would stay until the move to what is now known as the bet365 Stadium in 1997. In 1932 a young 17 year old winger made his debut, he would go on to be one of the world's greatest players, Stanley Matthews. Although they didn't win owt, they were now in this pre war period considered to be one of the country's top clubs.
In the first season after the war they came closest they have ever come to a league title when they lost their final game of the season to allow Liverpool to take the title. This may or may not have been due to the club selling Matthews to Blackpool shortly before. He would return in 1961 and helped them to promotion back to the first division and then in 1964 they reached their first cup final, the League Cup, losing to Leicester City.
Here's a picture of him playing against Huddersfield Town at the Victoria Ground.
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They did eventually win summat in the 70s. Their first major trophy arrived in 1972 when they won the League Cup, beating Chelsea 2-1 with goals from Terry Conroy and George Eastham. And in 1973 they won the prestigious Watney Cup, beating Hull City 2-0 in the final. This was all under the management of Tony Waddington who was in charge of the Potters from 1960 to 1977.
When he left they jumped on the managerial merry go round and things deteriorated so much that the next trophy they won was the Football League Trophy, meaning they had dropped to the 3rd division by the time they beat Stockport County in the 1992 final. They moved to the new stadium in 1997 and won it again in 2000, beating Bristol City 2-1. Won the play offs the following year, beating Brentford (who had beaten us in the semis) in the final and eventually won promotion to the Premier League in 2008 with Tony Pulis in charge and had been there until relegation at the end of the 2017/18 season.
In 2011 they reached their first ever FA Cup final, but lost 0-1 to Manchester City.
1973 Watney Cup winners
Head to Head
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Stoke lead the overall head to head with 28 wins to Town's 21 with 25 draws.
Only one stand out match to report on. It was of course during the famous Great Escape season as Peter Jackson and Terry Yorath plotted our survival strategy from what looked like certain relegation. This would be our first win of the new era, kick starting a run of 5 wins in 7 games, including the famous 1-0 win at Maine Road. Let's hope a win against Stoke on Tuesday night can spark off something similar. This match however didn't get going until the second half when new signing Lee Richardson scored in the 46th minute. Stoke equalised but then Marcus Stewart put us back in front. As injury time took hold, the crowd were desperate to see this first win of the season, but Stoke were pressing for an equaliser. They sent the keeper up for a corner, but as the ball cleared it fell to Paul Dalton. He was still in his own half but there was an open goal ahead. He took the ball on and with Jacko chasing him up the touchline shouting "SHOOT!", he eventually did just as the covering defender made a last ditch tackle. The ball seemed to take an eternity to reach the goal but it did and just as the defender looked like he would get back, the ball crossed the line and nestled in the back of the net to send the home fans wild.
We did the double over them that season and instead of us going down, which looked nailed on early on, it was Stoke who got relegated, alongside Reading and Manchester City. That away game was a 2-1 Town win and was my one and only visit to the Britannia Stadium. Goals came early that day for us, we were 2-0 up in quarter of an hour, Paul Barnes opening the scoring before Stewart added another. They got a consolation in the 90th minute.
A couple of seasons before, we played them at home over the New Year weekend and it wasn't that memorable a 1-1 draw, apart from our goal which was an own goal from their keeper, Mark Prudhoe, who made a complete arse of a back pass and sliced it into his own net. He later denied it was his own goal as he completely missed the ball. Either way, mate. It's your cock up.
Remarkable own goal that was, it's nowt compared to the classic own goal scored by Juninho Bacuna last season in the Carabooboo Cup as we lost 0-2.
I went once to the Victoria Ground. That was for a dull League Cup 0-0 draw in the early 80s. Stoke won the replay at Leeds Road 2-0.
And I saw another dull goalless draw with them in 1971, an FA Cup replay. After we drew 3-3 at theirs, we drew at home and then lost the second replay at Old Trafford (neutral venues back then). The only remarkable thing about that goalless game was the size of the crowd, with 40,363 squeezing into Leeds Road for what would be the second highest of the season, beaten only when the "Champions of Europe" came visiting.
We played them in the Premier League, we drew at home with players who have now swapped sides scoring in a 1-1 draw. Tom Ince scoring his first Town goal in the 10th minute. Substitute Ramadan Sobhi scored the equaliser for the Potters in the 2nd half.
The match at theirs was a win for Stoke. They won 2-0 with goals from Joe Allen and Mame Biram Diouf. But we had the last laugh, we stayed up and they went down.
So what's happening down Stanley Matthews Way? Managed nowadays by Nathan Jones, the former Merthyr Tydfil left back. He spent most of his playing career in the lower end of the Football League, though he did play for a while in Spain as a young un.
His coaching career began at Charlton and then Brighton before he got the job as Luton Town manager in January 2016. They made the League 2 play offs in his first season but lost in the semis to Blackpool. Not to worry, they followed that with promotion the next season as runners up.
After three years at Luton, he was poached by Stoke and signed on for them in January this year. It hasn't gone very well so far.
But he will always have a memorable name, made famous in song by the Supremes (after penalty taking specialist Diana Ross had left). But let's have a listen to a brilliant cover version by Bananabloodyrama.
So who have they got in their squad? Well in goal they have England international Jack Butland no less. If not him it'll be Aussie international keeper Adam Federici.
The skipper is experienced centre back Ryan Shawcross, who won't be playing as he's currently experiencing a broken leg. Covering for him is young American Cameron Carter-Vickers. He's a full USA international and is on loan from Spurs. With him at centre back is Liam Lindsay, who signed from Barnsley in the summer. Also in defence will be Dutch international Bruno Martins Indi. At right back recently has been young Tom Edwards who has come through their Academy.
In midfield there's Badou Ndiaye, who spent last season at Galatasaray. Peter Etebo is a Nigerian international midfielder. And Sam Clucas has played in the Premier League with Hull and Swansea. Scored against us on his Hull debut a few years ago after being signed from Chesterfield. Controversial knobhead James McClean will also be making an appearance in the midfield. All together now......BOOOOOOO!
Up top they have ex Shrewsbury Town forward Tyrese Campbell, ex Shayman Lee Gregory, ex dirty Leeds Sam Vokes and ex Huddersfield Town Premier League player Tom Ince, who apparently will tear you apart again.
England's number 1
Club Connections:
Tommy Smith: skippered Huddersfield Town to Play Off glory in 2017, despite getting crocked during the final at Wembley against Reading, he still managed to hobble up the stairs to join the celebrations. Earlier that season, he scored THAT goal at Rotherham. In the summer he moved to Stoke for an undisclosed fee.
Tom Ince: has scored 85 goals so far in his much travelled career. Only three of them though were for Huddersfield Town. One of them against Stoke, one in the FA Cup at Birmingham and one memorably against Watford, which was the winner in what is still the last time we won a match on a Saturday.
Ramadan Sobhi: is still on our books, but has gone back to Egypt and will probably never return, but you never know. He came to us from Stoke in our second season in the Premier League, having scored against us the previous season.
Benik Afobe: came to us as a 17 year old and played a huge part in our run to the 2011 play offs. He's still on the books at Stoke, after joining them last season from Wolves, but is now out on loan at Bristol City.
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Dean Whitehead: retired from playing at the end of our first Premier League season after his final appearance as an 87th minute sub in the game at home to Arsenal. It was his 63rd game for Town, but he'd had a lot more sat on the bench, obviously sharing wisdom with the rest of the coaching staff, which led to the boss offering him a seat on the bench permanently as a member of that staff.
He started his career at Oxford Utd, very close to his home town of Abingdon, making his debut in the Football League Trophy in 1999. He stayed there for 5 seasons before a move to Championship side Sunderland beckoned. He was an immediate success there, winning Player of the Year as the Black Cats won promotion to the Premier League. With Deano as skipper they yoyoed between Prem and Championship for 4 years, before manager Roy Keane decided to ship him out to Stoke City, who by now were themselves a Premier League club. He played in central midfield for Tony Pulis at Stoke, having been a right back at Sunderland and scored 5 goals in his time there, one of which was at Old Trafford, making him the first Stoke player to score there for over 30 years. He also played in the FA Cup final for them in 2011, a 0-1 defeat to Manchester City.
In 2013 he went and joined Middlesbrough, helping them to the Play Offs where they got beat by Norwich in the final. And then after two years there, he came to us. Always popular with players and fans, although he never scored a goal for us.
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Stoke's last 6 matches:
Dirty Leeds 2-2 Stoke (EFL Cup) (won on pens)
Birmingham 2-1 Stoke
Stoke 1-2 Brizzle City
Brentford 0-0 Stoke
Crawley 1-1 Stoke (EFL Cup) (lost on pens)
Stoke 2-3 Nottm Forest
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| HTAFC Prediction League 2019/20 Matchday 10 |
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Posted by: Lord Snooty - 29-09-2019, 21:55 - Forum: Huddersfield Town
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2 points for a correct result
4 points for a correct score
2 points for each correct scorer
Correct joker doubles your score
Wrong joker result gives you minus 2
Correct Random Badger gives you 2 points 
The random badger is used for any random prediction used once in each matchday sequence. For instance, a scorer at a particular match, the number of red cards in the matches or yellow cards or own goals or owt you want really within reason, I do need to be able to check whether it's correct or not. Please don't put stuff like....."Commentator says...."
The joker is played for one match in each sequence and if correct you get double points. So if you've predicted 1-0 and it finishes 2-0, you get 4 pts, but if you've predicted 2-0, that's 8 pts. But if you get it wrong, it's minus 2.
Jokers and badgers are optional. You don't have to play one if you don't want.
Cup games:
In the event of a draw, it's half the points if you've predicted a draw when it gets to 90 mins and the full points if it's still a draw after extra time. Half the points will be awarded for correctly predicting the winner of the match if it goes to penalties.
Random score generator: I will be using the random score generator again for those who miss predicting, so we shouldn't get some people too far behind that after missing a couple of weeks they lose all interest, because I know it's not easy getting on here every week.
To be fair to everybody, this is going to be like, say if three people in one week miss their predictions, the first one in the table will be given all 0-0, the second one down the line will get 1-0 and the third will get 0-1 and so on, like if there's four missing the 4th will get 1-1, then 5th 2-1, 6th 1-2. and if there are so many missing, might as well pack in. 
And if you miss two weeks on the trot, I'll stop until you come back on again. Not doing it for half a season like I did t'other year. 
Friday 4th October:
Birmingham City v Middlesbrough
Saturday 5th October:
Town v Hull City
Town scorers:
Hull scorers:
Fulham v Charlton Athletic (12:30)
Bristol City v Reading
Derby County v Luton Town
Millwall v Leeds United
Nottingham Forest v Brentford
Preston North End v Barnsley
Queens Park Rangers v Blackburn Rovers
Sheffield Wednesday v Wigan Athletic
Swansea City v Stoke City
West Bromwich Albion v Cardiff City
Bonus match:
Scottish Premier:
Saturday:
Aberdeen v Hibernian
Table after Matchday 9:
jjamez = 214 pts
themaclad = 206 pts
neonfoxinthebox = 198 pts
SHEP_HTAFC = 188 pts
theo_luddite = 188 pts
Amelia Chaffinch = 185 pts
Baggiebob(BBB) = 179 pts
St Charles Owl = 174 pts
ritchiebaby = 166 pts
Lord Snooty = 165 pts
Beefy 1965 = 125 pts
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| Sky bunch of w***ers thread |
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Posted by: themaclad - 27-09-2019, 20:19 - Forum: Preston North End
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Yesterday announced TV fixtures until mid November therefore booked advanced rail tickets to Euston for Charlton 2/11/209 today they change date to Sunday 3/11/19 dinner time kick off 12.00 first train from th real world arrives at Euston 12.03 on Sunday afternoon fookin joke less than impressed so still off to the smoke on the Saturday either Wet Spam or Fulham v Hudders less than i pressed in protest have booked every Friday in November off
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