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Posted by: harrogatebaggie - 02-09-2020, 00:55 - Forum: West Bromwich Albion
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Do people think Jenkins went because
A/ he wanted to and he had achieved his goal of getting us back in the PL.
or
B/ he knew there was no money to spend, so he thought, he was on a hiding to nothing.
I originally thought A but I am starting to worry it is B!
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Posted by: Lord Snooty - 01-09-2020, 11:00 - Forum: Huddersfield Town
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Rochdale v Huddersfield Town
The Carabao Cup 1st round
Saturday September 5th - 15:00 ko
at the Crown Oil Arena, Spotland John Smith's Stadium
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Huddersfield Town travel over the hills to Rochdale for a Carabooboo Cup 1st round match on Saturday afternoon. Well they would've done, but it's now Rochdale who are travelling over here to play at the JSS as they're having their pitch renovated and it won't be ready in time.
Don't know what kind of team we will have playing. We've only had a couple of warm up matches, no summer training camp in Austria or anything like that. The two friendlies we have played have been mainly players from the newly formed B team and the likes of Christopher Schindler, Lewis O'Brien, Jonathan Hogg and Frazier Campbell have not been seen. Young Lewis and Hoggy we know are injured, but where are the returning players from loans like Terence Kongolo, Isaac Mbenza and Adama Diakhaby? Whatever team is selected, our opponents won't be a push over. They should be. They let eight players go in the summer and haven't replaced them, but with our recent League Cup record and the fact that this lot almost won at Old Trafford last season means that this won't be easy.
We are on the brink of a new era, if only...... as we welcome new Head Coach Carlos Corberán to the club, he replaces last season's saviour, manager Danny Cowley, who along with his brother Nicky, performed a minor miracle in turning around a disastrous start to the season and keeping us in the Championship. The boys were somewhat harshly sacked by Phil Hodgkinson, who decided he wanted a Head Coach rather than a manager and so here we are at the start of what we all hope will be a glorious new era.
So who is Carlos? Well he was born 37 years ago in Valencia and started his football career with his home town club as a goalkeeper. However, he never made it past the B team and so decided to go into coaching. And by the age of 26 he had landed a job at Villareal, where he eventually became assistant to Manuel Pellegrini. They played in the Champions League and the Europa League, but as soon as Carlos left to go take up a similar role in Saudi Arabia with Al-Ittihad, Villareal got relegated. He then moved back to Spain, coaching AD Alcorcon's youth team and back again to Saudi where he coached Al-Nassr FC alongside former Italian national team coach Fabio Cannavaro.
This led him to his first Head Coach position in 2016 in Cyprus with First Division side Doxa Katokopias, followed by another Cypriot club Ermis Aradippou. Then out of nowhere, he ended up in the culturally backward region of Beeston in the wilds of West Yorkshire. He was appointed u23 coach by new Leeds United manager Thomas Christiansen in June 2017, just as their near neighbours Huddersfield Town were preparing for life in the Premier League. Twelve months later, with Huddersfield Town still in the Premier League and the BellEnders still languishing in the desperate depths of the Sky Bet Championship, Carlos was promoted to first team coach by new Leeds boss Marcelo Bielsa. Whilst first team coach he, alongside Danny Schofield, managed their Development team to the PDL Northern League title and then the national Professional Development League title and alongside Bielsa got their first team promoted to the Premier League.
Then suddenly, he's Head Coach here! Here we go!
Bienvenida, Carlos.
So what about our new players? Well so far we have two new signings. One a re-signing and yet another goalkeeper loaned from a Premier League side.
Danny Ward first came to us on loan in 2011 from Premier League club Bolton Wanderers. He'd made his debut for them in the Prem against Sunderland, as a sub in the opening game of the 2009/10 season. He went on loan at Swindon and Coventry and came to us in March 2011 to the end of the season and helped us qualify for the Play Offs. He made his debut in a 1-0 win down at Brentford when Peter Clarke scored in injury time. He scored his first goal for us in a magnificent 3-2 victory down at already promoted Brighton, who were playing their last ever match at the Withdean Stadium, which was the winner and the last ever goal scored at that ground.
Danny scored again in the Play Off semi final 2nd leg at home to Bournemouth and scored one of the penalties in the shoot out. And we'll once more just ignore the next game. Lee Clark signed him back on again in the summer, paying Bolton a million quid for his services, which he repayed by bagging five goals against the likes of Rochdale, Stevenage and Yeovil. He helped us reach the Play Off Final again, hitting the bar with a shot in the second half at Wembley. We won on pens against Sheff Utd but he'd been subbed by then.
Up in the Championship he scored a first minute winner against Derby and a brilliant last minute winner against Boro. Those were his only goals in 2012/13 but improved in the next one, netting ten times. One of them came in the 3-2 win at home to Dirty Leeds and one at Bellend Road in another match where I won't mention the final score. He got four of his goals that season against Watford, including a hat trick in the final game of the season at Vicarage Road, just as his contract was about to expire, which persuaded the club to offer him a new deal.
But those three goals turned out to be his last in a Town shirt for the time being as he was moved on to Rotherham, initially on loan and then permanently in the summer. He scored for them at the JSS in a match that we won 2-1 in 2016/17.
He had three years with the Millers and then Cardiff City forked out a million and a half quid for him. He helped them get into the Premier League and scored one goal for them in the Prem, a defeat at home to Arsenal, as they joined us in getting relegated. And Danny made his last appearance at our ground just before lockdown as an 86th minute sub when Cardiff came up here and stuffed us 3-0.
But now he's back.
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Joel Pereira has come to us on loan from Manchester Utd and he has been previously on loan at today's opponents Rochdale. He's 24 years old, born in Boudevilliers, Switzerland. Despite all this, he plays internationally for Portugal. He has represented them in all under age groups from u15 to u21 and was also a member of the Portuguese Olympic squad in 2016, but didn't play.
He signed for United as a 16 year old and helped their u21 team win the title in 2015. This led to his loan out to the Crown Oil Arena, with Keith Hill praising him after a man of the match debut against Morecambe in the FL Trophy, in which he saved a penalty. Joel turned out on 8 occasions for the Dale before returning to Old Trafford.
At the end of the season he made his Man U debut (and only match so far) in the last match of the season and kept a clean sheet as the Red Devils beat Crystal Palace 2-0 at home.
He had more loans out. Two of them in Portugal, then Belgium and then last season in Scotland with Hearts. Joel turned out 25 times for them but unfortunately as lockdown started they were bottom of the league and were eventually relegated. Still, he came away with rave reviews from their fans.
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League Cup on a Saturday? I was assuming that this will be the first time we've played a League Cup match on a Saturday, as it's always been played midweek, but on investigation after a trigger in my memory suggested otherwise, I found my memory to be working perfectly well. Yes indeed, when the competition started putting on 2 legged rounds to start with in the mid 70s, the first legs were the opening games of the season and on a Saturday. The first occasion being in 1976 at home to Hartlepool Utd and the last time was a trip to play Blackburn Rovers in 1980.
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A brief history of Rochdale AFC: To be blunt, they've won sod all ...... literally. They must have the shortest honours board of all the clubs in the Football League. The outstanding feat of course, would be their League Cup runners up in 1962, the 2nd season of it's existence, losing 0-4 to Norwich over 2 legs. They were the first team from the bottom division to reach a major cup final, only Bradford City have done it since. In that run to the final, they beat Southampton after a replay, Doncaster Rovers, Charlton Athletic, York City and then beat Blackburn Rovers 4-3 on aggregate.
They have never reached the 2nd tier, now known as the Championship, but they had two Division 3 (North) runners up positions (1923/24 and 1926/27), when only the champions were promoted. Their highest league position since then was as recent as 2014/15 when they finished 8th in League One. But since their election into the FL in 1921, they have never been relegated to what is now known as the National League.
The Dale (brilliantly imaginative nickname) have been promoted three times, but never as champions. They were members of Division 3 (North) from 1921 to 1958 when the regional division 3s were made national and they were dumped into Division 4. So the first ever promotion was in 1969 when they were promoted to Division 3 alongside the Yorkshire trio of Doncaster Rovers, Halifax Town and Bradford City. They stayed there for five seasons before getting relegated in 1973-74, the season they first met the mighty Huddersfield Town.
It would be 36 years before they came back up again, a record number of seasons for any club to be in the basement division. That promotion came in 2009/10 when they finished 3rd to win automatic promotion with Notts County and Bournemouth. A decent finish in 9th place was then followed by relegation in the next as they finished bottom of the division. Two years later though and they again went up automatically, finishing 3rd behind Chesterfield and Scunthorpe Utd, under the management of Keith Hill. And to their credit, they have stayed there ever since.
They have reached the 4th division Play Offs on 3 occasions, losing to Rushden & Diamonds in 2002. Stockport in 2008 at Wembley, having beaten Darlington on penalties in the semi final. And then Gillingham beat them 2-1 on aggregate in 2009.
Promoted to League 1 in 2014
Head to Head
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Town lead in the overall head to head with 13 wins to Rochdale's 2, with 10 draws.
We have met three times in the FA Cup. The most recent meeting was in that competition in the famous Play Off winning campaign of 2016/17. We won 4-0 with goals from three legends of the club. Collin Quaner scored on his debut. Izzy Brown scored a penalty and then makeshift striker Michael Hefele bagged a brace.
In 1991/92 a third division Town team, under the management of Eoin Hand, went to 4th division Rochdale, managed by Town legend David Sutton and won 2-1 with goals from Iwan Roberts and Iffy Onuora.
A few years prior to that, in 1988/89, we played out a 1-1 draw at Leeds Road, Andy May scoring for Town. The replay was a cup classic 4-3 Town win. Peter Withe, an own goal from O'Shaughanessy, Craig Maskell and Junior Bent getting the Town goals.
We last met at league level in League 1, our promotion season of 2011/12. Both games ended in 2-2 draws, with Lee Novak and Danny Ward scoring at Spotland and Ward again and Jordan Rhodes scoring at home. So our new signing has form scoring against the Dale.
The first time we played each other was when we were on our big slide down the league ladder in the 70s. It was 1973/74 and we drew 1-1 at Rochdale with a Steve Arnold og for us, but then beat them 5-0 at home with all five goals coming in a 2nd half blitz that gave us our biggest win of the season. Goals that day coming from Jimmy Lawson (2), Alan Gowling (2) and Phil Summerill.
We have only ever been beaten twice by Rochdale, out of a total of 25 matches that's probably our best record against any opponent. The most recent one was a really bad evening in 2010 when we travelled to play the newly promoted Dale and came away with a very poor 0-3 defeat and a very unhappy manager in Lee Clark.
The only other defeat came in this competition, the League Cup of 2001, when Rochdale turned up at the Galpharm Stadium for a 1st round tie. We had just been relegated to the 3rd division and life was looking really bad as they humiliated us by winning 1-0.
On a brighter note, we did play and beat them in the Mick Buxton era. That was in 1981 and we stuffed them over two legs in the 1st round, 7-3 on aggregate. Peter Fletcher (2) and Phil Wilson scored in a 3-1 home win and then two weeks later Fletch got another two, as well as one each from Ian Robins and Steve Kindon as we won 4-2 at Spotland.
And then there was that friendly last season where we launched this shirt!!
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So what's going on down at the Crown Oil Arena? Managed nowadays by Brian Barry-Murphy, who took over when Keith Hill was sacked in March 2019. He has been at Rochdale since 2010, joining them just after they had been promoted to League One and he played for them in the match that season against us when they beat us in the league for the one and only time.
He was born in Cork, 42 years ago and began his football career with his home town club as a defensive midfielder. He signed for Preston as a 20 year old and gained u21 caps for his country. Whilst there he went on a couple of loans, to Southend and Hartlepool, before signing for Sheffield Wednesday in 2003. He never scored for t' Owls, but became a regular on the scoresheet when he moved to Bury, netting 13 times in 6 years.
Only one goal though in his 8 years as a player for Rochdale, though most of those years were just keeping his name registered as a player while he took on a coaching role. He finally packed in at the age of 40 and within no time, he was head coach.
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Who's in their squad then? Well we'll start with who they don't have anymore. Dean Henderson was released in the summer, with the club citing Covid uncertainties as the reason. He's 35 years old, but he is the club's second highest all time record goal scorer with 126 goals for them. He has since joined Salford City. They also released strikers Aaron Wilbraham and Calvin Andrew. Another one to mention who got let go, goalkeeper Josh Lillis, son of our very own club legend Mark Lillis.
They let eight players go, and reading the statement doesn't look good for Dale fans, as they don't have plans for replacing them. The only one they have signed so far is from the non leagues. Midfielder Alex Newby signed from Chorley. He was a member of their squad that won promotion to the National League, but also got relegated again last season.
So with Lillis leaving, that just left ex Salford and Fylde goalie Jay Lynch. But they have now taken Republic of Ireland Under-21 goalkeeper Gavin Bazunu on loan from Man City. He's only 18 but was in their recent Champions League squad against Lyon.
In defence they have 35 year old central defender Jimmy McNulty who played against the Dale for Stockport in the 2008 Play Off Final. He later captained Barnsley when Keith Hill was boss there before going to Bury from where he signed for Hill who was by then back at Rochdale. Alongside him will be club captain Eoghan O'Connell, who also signed from Bury, but started out his career with Celtic under Brendan Rodgers. He played in the Champions League for them in 2016, but that was one of only 7 first team games for him before leaving for Gigg Lane. In between times he had loans out at Oldham, Cork City and Walsall.
Another experienced defender in the squad is Paul McShane, who played 30 times for Reading in the 2016/17 season, but missed out on the Play Off Final defeat to Huddersfield Town. He started out at Manchester Utd, without making the first team. He did play in their 2003 Youth Cup triumph and had loans out at Walsall and Brighton. He signed for West Brom in 2006 and then joined Sunderland in the Premier League after one season with the Baggies. He also played for Hull in the Prem before going to Barnsley, Crystal Palace and Reading, then signed on at the Crown Oil Arena last season. Also in defence is Northern Ireland international Ryan McLaughlin who joined from Blackpool last season.
In midfield there's Irishmen Stephen Dooley, Jimmy Keohane and Jimmy Ryan. Oliver Rathbone, central midfielder, was born when his dad Mick Rathbone was playing for Halifax Town. He now has over a hundred appearances for the Dale. Matt Done has almost two hundred appearances, over three stints with the club. In between he had been at Wrexham, Hereford, Barnsley, Hibs and Sheffield Utd. Matty Lund is in his second spell at Spotland. He had four seasons with them after he signed from Stoke in 2013. After leaving he played for Burton, Bradford City and Scunthorpe before returning in the January transfer window this year. Also in midfield they have Aaron Morley who came through the Academy.
So following the release of Henderson, Wilbraham and Andrew, who do the Dale have up top? Well they no longer have Rekeil Pyke either, who was on loan there from us last season, so the only two forwards now on the books are Kwadwo Baah and Fabio Tavares, who between them have a total of two league goals.
Club connections: Four Town players have managed Rochdale. The first one was back in 1934, a big name in Huddersfield Town history, the record appearances holder with a total of 574 games for us, scoring 126 goals. A career that brought him three League Championships, an FA Cup winners medal for which he scored the winning goal, and three England caps. After Town, he had one season managing Rochdale, as player/manager, which they finished 20th out of 22 teams in the 3rd Division (North). He was of course, Billy Smith.
He was born in the pit village Tantobie in the county of Durham in 1895, which is four miles away from where now stands the Beamish Museum. If you've never been, it's a recreated village from the 1800's, so it's very much reminiscent of what Tantobie was like when young Billy were a lad. He signed for Huddersfield Town at the age of 18 in 1913 and made his debut on Christmas Day at home to Hull City. The following day, the teams met again at Hull and Billy scored his first Town goal in a 1-4 defeat. Those were two of only four matches he played that season. The next season he turned out 24 times, scoring four goals. By now though the First World War had started and unlike WWII, they completed the football season. He stayed around for a while, playing in the Wartime League that had been set up to keep up morales, but he did join the Navy and didn't reappear in a Town shirt after 1916 until the 1919/20 season started.
That season was a funny old season for Town, as we nearly went bust, nearly got merged with Leeds, nearly won the FA Cup, but did get promoted to the First Division. He played 39 league games for us and all the FA Cup games right up to the Final. He didn't play in the Final. He had been sent off for fighting in a match against Stoke City a couple of weeks before and was suspended. Now bearing in mind that in those days you had to kill somebody to warrant being sent off, it must've been a right old scrap or a very fussy ref thinking he's reffing a 21st century Premier League game. Anyway, we lost the Final 0-1 against Aston Villa.
He had also missed a couple of league games due to making his international debut. He played twice for England, against Wales and Scotland. The game against Wales was a 1-0 win at Anfield with a goal from his future team mate Bob Kelly, who was playing for Burnley then. The Scotland match was a 0-1 defeat at Villa Park. He only played once more.
He scored 7 goals in the promotion push and then 3 in his first First Division season, but then bagged 12 in 1921/22, including 4 FA Cup goals as Town went one better this time and actually went and won the Cup for the one and only time so far in our history. He scored 2 in a 3rd round replay 5-0 victory at home to Blackburn Rovers, one in the semi final at Turf Moor, a 3-1 win over Notts County. And then in the Final he got the only goal of the game from the penalty spot after his own trickery in the area had won the awarded spot kick.
That was the first full season under the management of Herbert Chapman and it was completed in May by us winning the Charity Shield against champions Liverpool at Old Trafford. Billy played in the match that we won 1-0 with a Tom Wilson goal. The second one saw us finish in 3rd behind Liverpool and Sunderland when Billy score 9 times.
Then in 1923/24, we became champions for the first time, finishing level on 57 points with Cardiff City but with a better Goal Average. Now that was the rule back then and nobody can backtrack and take that away from us, but if they had today's rule, Cardiff would've won. We both had a Goal Difference of +27 and Cardiff had scored one goal more than us. Goal Average however favoured the team that had conceded fewer and so we were the champions. So Billy scored 13 goals in the season, the last of which was a consolation goal in the penultimate game, a 1-3 defeat at Villa Park. Turned out to be quite crucial, although it wouldn't have been known by then. We won our last match 3-0 against Nottingham Forest, whereas Cardiff drew 0-0 with Len Davies missing a penalty and the deal was sealed.
So next season we decided not to leave it too tight and had the luxury of drawing the final two matches and still win the title by two points over West Bromwich Albion. Billy bagged 9 goals this season. One of them was a historic moment. the rules concerning corner kicks had been tinkered with in the close season, making it possible to score directly from a corner kick. And in a home 4-0 win against Arsenal on October 11th 1924, Billy became the first player in the world to do so.
He scored just six in the next one, missing the first half of the season as we claimed the title for the third time in a row. We topped the table by 5 points from Chapman's Arsenal (he'd moved there in the summer) and it was a 3-0 home win against Bolton Wanderers that won us the title with a couple of games to spare. Billy scored the first goal of the match, with Alex Jackson and Clem Stephenson getting the others on the 12th of April 1926, a date celebrated each year as Huddersfield Town Day.
The next season we finished runners up, five points behind Newcastle. Billy scored eight. He managed 17 though in the next one as we again finished in second, this time behind Everton. And it was against Everton in a 4-1 win at Leeds Road that Billy scored his first Town hat trick. He also scored 4 times in the FA Cup run all the way to Wembley, which we lost 1-3 against Blackburn Rovers. Two of his goals were in a brilliant quarter final win in March at home to Spurs as we smashed them 6-1 with George Brown getting the other 4.
Later that month, he gained his third and final England cap. It was at Wembley against Scotland and although he hit the post with a shot in the first minute, it was his Town team mate Alex Jackson who came out smiling as he scored a hat trick as the Scots trounced England 5-1, the famous Wembley Wizards. As with Billy's first cap, it was Bob Kelly who got the England goal, a last minute consolation this time and he was now a Huddersfield Town player. Tom Wilson and Roy Goodall were also in the England team, the only time we've had four players in one international team.
In the following season 1928/29, Town struggled, finishing 16th, a great disappointment after the glories of the previous years, but did get as far as the FA Cup semis, with Billy bagging a couple of goals in the cup run. The first of his Cup goals, the first in a 3-0 4th round win at home to Leeds Utd was his 100th Huddersfield Town goal.
Up to tenth in 1929/30 and one better in the Cup, reaching another Wembley Final, which unfortunately we lost to Arsenal 0-2. Billy scored one of the goals in the cup run, the first one in a 2-1 quarter final win away at Aston Villa.
A better finish in the next season, ending up 5th, with Billy scoring 4 times in 30 appearances. One of the games he missed, replaced on the left wing by Jimmy Smailes shortly before his transfer to Spurs, was the club record 10-1 win at home to Blackpool. He did score in the return fixture at Bloomfield Road though, a 1-1 draw.
In 1931/32 we went one place higher than before, finishing 4th, eight points behind the champions Everton. Billy scored 7 goals but ably assisted Dave Mangnall in his club record scoring 42 goals in a season. He also played in front of the Leeds Road record attendance this season when Arsenal came to Town and left with a 1-0 FA Cup 6th round win in front of 67,037 spectators.
Just three goals for Billy in the next season, including two in a 4-0 win at Newcastle, who finished a place above us as we ended the season in 6th. He only played 17 games this season, but he was 37 years old by now and coming towards the end of his career. Also in this season, he had his fourth benefit match, on November 11th, a home league match against Sheffield Wednesday, which we won 3-2 with two goals from George McLean and one from Mangnall.
He had one more season at Leeds Road before leaving for Rochdale. He scored 5 goals from 19 matches as Town finished runners up behind Arsenal. His last goal was in his last match, a 4-1 win away at Sheffield United on February the tenth 1934, three months before his 39th birthday.
He then had his one season as manager of Rochdale, the highlight of which was a 6-1 win at home to Gateshead, with a downside being a 0-5 home defeat by Stockport County.
His son Conway Smith also became a Town player. Not quite the medal haul of his dad but he did score over a hundred league goals, becoming the first father and son to do so. He scored 5 for Town but then hit 81 for QPR before coming back to Yorkshire and scoring 73 for Halifax Town.
T'owd lad had a leg amputated later in life, caused by an untreated footballing injury and sadly Billy Smith died in Huddersfield, of cancer in 1951, aged just 57.
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The most recent Town connection in the Spotland hot seat is the current manager of Carlisle Utd. Chris Beech wasn't really in the actual hot seat for long. He was caretaker for six matches following the departure of Steve Eyre and the appointment of John Coleman. However, he had played for them after he left us for a couple of seasons, before becoming Youth Team manager. He was later assistant to Keith Hill and when he was sacked last year, Chris left at the same time, ending an association with the Dale for 17 years. Before all that though, he had played for Blackpool (playing for them in the last ever match at Leeds Road) and Hartlepool when Peter Jackson signed him for us in 1998. A combative midfielder with an eye for goal, he scored 4 times in his first season with the Town, two of them in a couple of FA Cup games against Premier League Derby County. He bagged ten the following season, under the new management of Steve Bruce. He scored the first goal in the 7-1 win at home to Crystal Palace, but his best was probably the header from the edge of the area at Maine Road to give us a famous 1-0 win over Manchester City. Injuries kept him down to just a few games in the next two seasons though and Town went down. Beech only scored one more goal in those two years and he was sent off to Spotland.
Chris Beech
Terry Dolan managed them for a couple of seasons (1989-91) after a stint in charge of Bradford City. He left them for Hull, but whilst there he took them on their record FA Cup run. After beating Marine, Lincoln City, Whitley Bay and Northampton Town, they went out in the 5th round with a 0-1 defeat away at Crystal Palace, who made it all the way to the Final. Earlier in life, he had played in all four divisions for us, starting out in Division One in 1970 and ending in 1976 as a 4th division player getting transferred to Bradford City.
David Sutton was a member of that famous 1979/80 4th Division championship winning side under Mick Buxton. He formed a brilliant centre back partnership with Keith Hanvey and gained promotion again with the Terriers before eventually transferring to Bolton, where he again got promoted, this time through the Play Offs. He then left to play with Rochdale in 1988, but injury forced his retirement. He became the club's physio and when manager Danny Bergara was sacked, Dave took on the caretaker's role for three games until the aforementioned Dolan arrived. When TD left for Hull, Dave was again in caretaker charge, then was given the role full time for the 1991/92 season. He had the Dale up in the top half of the 4th division, flirting with but just missing the Play Offs twice. He left by mutual consent in November 1994.
Two team mates of Sutton from the Buxton era, Malcolm Brown and Brian Stanton both also ended their careers with the Dale. They were teammates at Bury before coming here, Mally came first, signed by Tom Johnstone and Stanny came during the 1979/80 season, signed by Mick Buxton. Mally was a brilliant overlapping full back, providing many an assist for Kindon, Robins and Fletcher. And Stanny was the right sided midfielder he was doing the overlapping with (they weren't known as wing backs then). Mallly is 6th on our all time appearances list, but tops the chart for consecutive appearances. He totalled 403 games for Town, 259 of them in an unbroken spell. That spell only came to an end when he was transferred to Newcastle. Ironically he missed the entire first season with the Magpies after a pre season injury ruled him out. He came back to us when his contract at Sid James' Park ran out, then left to go to Rochdale four years later. He was signed on at the Dale by his old Town team mate Sutton and if you watch the video I posted in the Head to Head section you may spot his lanky frame in a Rochdale kit. He didn't stay there long and was transferred to Stockport where he was named in the PFA team of the year for the fifth time, the other four obviously were with us. After Stockport, he went back for another season at Spotland before hanging up his boots.
Stanny scored 54 goals for us, putting him 20th in our all time goal scoring list. Four of them came in a fantastic New Years Day win over Bradford City in 1983 as we came from behind to bash the Billy Bantams 6-3. He scored on his debut, a 1-1 draw at Scunthorpe and then scored his first goal at Leeds Road in the 7-1 win against Port Vale. That was in the 4th Division championship winning season and he scored ten in total. Sixteen in the next one as we almost got back to back promotions. Only three in the one after that as we struggled. But he was back in form in the following season as we did win promotion to the 2nd Division. There were those 4 against Bradford, three of which were part of a six minute hat trick. He also had a couple of FA Cup goals, one of them in a 1-1 draw with 1st Division Chelsea. He scored against them again in the 2nd Division after they had been relegated. His appearances were getting limited by now and after scoring his last goal for Town in a 3-1 win at home to Leeds Utd, he went on loan to Wrexham and then joined Rochdale, where he stayed for two seasons, scoring four goals.
Peter Valentine started his career with us, playing 19 times in the early 80s, but as a centre back his appearances were limited due to the aforementioned Sutton and Hanvey. He went to Bolton, Bury and Carlisle, then ended his career at Rochdale, turning out 50 times for them.
Les Chapman and Bobby Hoy played in our 2nd Division championship winning team. Bobby played 28 games and scored 7 times that season, whereas Les only turned out twice. Les played a few more for us in the First Division and scored one of the most famous goals of our time in the top tier. That was in the 2-1 win at home to Arsenal and won Goal of the Month on MOTD. We signed him as a 20 year old from Oldham and that was the beginning of his career. Much later, aged 35, he turned up at Rochdale where he made 88 appearances before going on to manage Stockport and Preston. He came back to us for a short while as youth coach, but then took on his longest standing role as kit man for Man City.
Bobby left us for Blackburn in 1975 after making 144 appearances and joined Rochdale in 1978, scoring 12 goals for them in 66 games.
Grant Holt came to us on loan from Wigan in 2014 and scored twice for us. This was towards the back end of his much travelled career. It was at Rochdale that he first made a name for himself, having joined them from Sheff Weds in 2004 he scored 42 goals from 83 appearances for them, which persuaded Nottingham Forest to fork out three hundred grand for him. He dropped to Shrewsbury, but then moved to Norwich, who forked out four hundred grand for him. Norwich were in League One then and despite losing 1-7 at home to Colchester on his debut, they did win the title and he top scored with 30.
He returned to Spotland in 2016, scoring twice in 14 games and then left Spotland for Scotland and had a season with Hibs. He is now a professional wrestler.
Harry Bunn joined us from Man City in 2013 and scored 15 goals from 91 games, the most famous one obviously being the one he got at the Etihad to put us one up against City in the FA Cup. Earlier, he had played 6 games for Rochdale, making his league debut away at MK Dons. He then played against Preston in the League Cup and scored. So impressed were they that they persuaded City to end his loan at the Dale and took him to Deepdale. He now plays for York City.
Ian Gray played 78 times in goal for Rochdale in the 90s. In 2003, he was signed by Peter Jackson for Town and played in our promotion season. He didn't complete the season though, having his hand broken in the FA Cup match at Accrington and being replaced by Paul Rachubka, who went on to be the penalty saving hero against Mansfield instead. Unfortunately, the injury forced him into early retirement, aged 29.
Robbie Williams (no not that one) played left back for us for three seasons after being at Barnsley and Blackpool before. After us, he went to Stockport and then Rochdale. He only played 9 times for the Dale. They, like many Town fans, didn't rate him.
Donal McDermott was on loan from Man City at Bournemouth when we played them in the 2011 Play Offs. He scored in the first leg. So impressed was Lee Clark that he signed him for us next season. Unfortunately, he turned out to be not that good and only scored once for us, an EFL Trophy match at Northampton. We sent him back to Bournemouth and by the time we played Rochdale in the FA Cup in 2017, he had turned up there. He was an unused sub in that match, but he did play 54 times for them. He left them for Swindon, but since his release from there in 2018, he hasn't been seen.
Neal Trotman came on loan to us from Preston in 2010 and played in the Play Offs against Millwall. He joined Rochdale in 2012, played 12 times for them, but they were so unimpressed that they sent him out on loan to Chesterfield.
Rekeil Pyke: finally made his Town debut last season. He came on in the 89th minute of the 2-3 defeat down at Fulham. Manager Danny Cowley had recalled him from his loan spell at Rochdale because he wanted to have a look at him first hand. He must've had a good look at him in that one minute of action......he never picked him again and the poor lad was released at the end of the season. He'd had two spells on loan at the Dale. He went there in January 2019 for the rest of the season and then returned on a season long loan, that Cowley cut short. In that time, he scored three goals, against Bolton in the Carabooboo, at Fleetwood in the league and away at Bradford City in the EFL Trophy.
He's now signed a permanent deal with Shrewsbury Town.
Rekeil Pyke
'ow to get theere an' wheere to sup: Depending where you're starting out from. If you're setting off from the Aspley Marina, take the Huddersfield Narrow Canal towards Golcar, Slaithwaite, Marsden, through the Standedge Tunnel, Saddleworth, Diggle, Uppermill, Greenfield, Mossley, Stalybridge, Ashton-under-Lyne, before joining up with the Ashton Canal at Manchester and then the Rochdale Canal towards Failsworth and on to Rochdale.
If leaving from Town's training Canalside Complex, go east on the Huddersfield Broad Canal towards Brighouse, joining up with the Calder & Hebble Navigation to Elland, then Sowerby Bridge where you join the Rochdale Canal. Go through Hebden Bridge, Todmorden, Littleborough and on to Rochdale.
With both routes, moor up near Lock 50, which is a half hour walk to the Crown Oil Arena at Spotland. On the way, call in at the Cemetery Hotel, which welcomes away fans.
However, the game is now being played at our ground, so any Rochdale fans reading this, just reverse the above directions to either Aspley or Canalside.
But it's behind closed doors anyway, so just ignore all that and watch it on ifollow. It'll only cost you a tenner, even if you are a season ticket holder.
Lock 50 Rochdale Canal
Rochdale in popular culture: Despite being mostly noted these days for having a paedophile ring, and a nonce for an MP for many years in the shape of big, fat Cyril Smith, Rochdale has in fact got a very good history. It is the birthplace of the Co-operative movement, which has over a billion members world wide. The Rochdale Society of Equitable Pioneers, founded in 1844, was as a response to the high cost and frequent adulteration of basic foodstuffs by shopkeepers at the time. In other words, fighting back against rip off merchants as well as providing benefits and education for members. Proper society.
In popular culture though, they have two top class songstresses, both born with the name Stansfield. Apparently unrelated though, Gracie Fields and Lisa Stansfield were both hugely popular.
Gracie was even made a Dame by Her Maj in 1979. She was born as Grace Stansfield, over a fish n chip shop in 1898 and towards the back end of her career she appeared at Batley Variety Club and said; "I was born over a fish and chip shop – I never thought I'd be singing in one!". Her most famous song was Sally, which was worked into the title of her first film in 1931, Sally In Our Alley. She had had cancer surgery in 1939 but still went and entertained the troops during the war. But as she then got married to an Italian film director, Monty Banks, she had to leave the country and went to live in America. After he died in 1950, she got married to a Romanian bloke and went to live on the island of Capri, but still performed, made films and records, culminating in that appearance at the world famous Batley Variety Club in 1968, the pinnacle of anybody's career.
Lisa was born in neighbouring Heywood in 1966 and in 1989 topped the singles chart with her debut solo single All Around The World. Before that though, she had been a child star on programmes such as Razzamatazz and the Krankies Klub. The parallels with Gracie's life are worth noting. She also married an Italian, had hit records and got into acting. Gracie had been the first Miss Marple on screen and Lisa later appeared in ITV's Agatha Christie's Marple in the episode Ordeal By Innocence.
It's her singing though that she will be remembered for, with hits such as Change, All Woman and In All The Right Places.
Talking of actors who have had chart topping records, Don Estelle of It Ain't Half Hot Mum fame, was born in Crumpsall but lived and died in Rochdale. He had a number 1 single with his co star Windsor Davies in 1975 with Whispering Grass. He had emigrated to New Zealand, but returned home to die and is buried in Rochdale Cemetery, close to the football ground.
Dr Who actor Colin Baker, moved to Rochdale with his parents when he was 3 and was brought up in the town. Anna Friel, star of a certain scene in the soap opera Brookside was from Rochdale. MOTD and 5Live presenter Mark Chapman, radio personalities Liz Kershaw and her brother Andy Kershaw, and former Chancellor of the Exchequer, Sajid Javid were all also born in Rochdale.
And bird watching Goodie, Bill Oddie was born in the town, but moved to Birmingham as a child. Here he is performing a song about a local lassie.
Town's League Cup record: is really poor, considering what a big club we are.
Our best season was back in the 1967/68 season, the season I first started watching. We reached the semi finals then, losing to Arsenal over two legs, but I didn't see any of these games, probably because I was only 7 and my dad obviously thought I was too young for night matches.
Anyway, to get to that stage we beat Wolves at home 1-0, Norwich away 1-0, West Ham at home 2-0, and Fulham 2-1 at home in a replay after a 1-1 draw down at theirs.
In the semi final we went down to Highbury for the first leg and narrowly lost 3-2, with goals from Trevor Cherry and Colin Dobson. Back at Leeds Road for the second leg we drew level on aggregate when Tony Leighton scored early on, but Arsenal scored three times to make it 6-3.
We had a famous win at Bellend Road in 1982/83, which was a 3rd round match. Third division Town had won two legged encounters over Doncaster Rovers and Oxford Utd and then beat the "Champions of Europe", Leeds United 1-0 with a second half goal from David Cowling, which in those days of Town being in their massive shadow, was a thing to celebrate. We lost 1-0 at Arsenal in the next round.
We have only got as far as the 4th round on three occasions. In the 67/68 and 82/83 seasons already mentioned, and in 1999/2000.
That last one was the year we won down at Chelsea in the 3rd round, a famous win and a famous goal coming from Kenny Irons. Earlier we had beaten Scunthorpe Utd and Notts County, both over two legs. And then we went out in the 4th round, beaten at home by Wimbledon, who were in the Premier League back then, 2-1 after extra time.
Since then our record has been appalling. This century we have only reached the 3rd round three times. In 2003/04, our post administration season under the guidance of Peter Jackson, we beat Derby at home and Sunderland away before losing at Reading. In 2013/14, home victories over Bradford City and Charlton Athletic gave us hope of a cup run, only to be dashed by a 1-0 defeat at Hull City. And most recently in 2017/18 when we had a first round bye before beating Rotherham at home and losing at Crystal Palace.
We have been embarrassed by lower league opposition, the likes of Oldham, Rochdale, Mansfield, Notts County, Shrewsbury and last season Lincoln City, have all given us a rotten kick up the arse.
So the only managers to get us to the 4th round of the League Cup are all club legends. Ian Greaves, Mick Buxton and errm *cough cough* Steve Bruce. Is Carlos Corberán the man to do it this season?
Apologies if you've read most of this before. It's an update from last season's League Cup thread.
Rochdale's recent League Cup encounters:
It's not been very good for us for many years in this competition, but what about our opponents? Well last season they made it to the 3rd round where they faced the mighty Manchester United at Old Trafford. And with a late equaliser from 16 year old Luke Matheson they took the Red Devils to a penalty shoot out, which they lost 3-5. Matheson was then sold to Wolves for a million quid, a club record.
Last 5 seasons:
19/20:
Rochdale 5-2 Bolton
Rochdale 2-1 Carlisle
Man Utd 1-1 Rochdale (lost on pens)
18/19:
Grimsby 0-2 Rochdale
Middlesbrough 2-1 Rochdale
17/18:
Mansfield 0-1 Rochdale
Stoke 4-0 Rochdale
16/17:
Rochdale 3-1 Chesterfield
QPR 2-1 Rochdale
15/16:
Rochdale 1-1 Coventry (won on pens)
Hull 1-0 Rochdale
Pre season friendlies:
Town 2-1 Bradford City
Town 3-3 Man Utd u23's
Atherton Collieries 1-4 Rochdale
Stockport 0-2 Rochdale
Oldham 0-1 Rochdale
Port Vale 2-1 Rochdale
September the 5th down the ages: How did we get on in previous matches played on this date?
Well the 5th of September 1908 is a very important date in the history of Huddersfield Town. It is the date of the very first official Town match. Match number one. It was played in the North Eastern League, away at South Shields Adelaide Athletic. We lost 0-2 and the official attendance was 5,000.
1908: South Shields (a) NEL, lost 0-2
1914: Preston NE (a) Div 2, drew 1-1 (Ernie Islip)
1925: Sheffield Utd (a) Div 1, WON 3-2 (Charlie Wilson, Alex Jackson, George Brown)
1931: Chelsea (a) Div 1, WON 1-0 (Billy Smith)
1932: Leicester City (a) Div 1, lost 1-3 (Billy Smith)
1934: Derby Co (a) Div 1, lost 1-4 (Austen Campbell)
1936: Arsenal (h) Div 1, drew 0-0
1942: Barnsley (h), Wartime League North, drew 3-3 (Arthur Thompson, Billy Price 2)
1953: Blackpool (a), Div 1, lost 1-3 (Willie Davie)
1959: Leyton Orient (h) Div 2, drew 1-1 (Peter Dinsdale)
1962: Norwich City (a), Div 2, WON 3-2 (Mike O'Grady 3)
1964: Newcastle Utd (h), Div 2, lost 0-1
1970: Coventry City (a), Div 1, drew 0-0
1981: Oxford Utd (a), Div 3, lost 0-1
1998: Sheffield Utd (h), Div One (2nd tier), WON 1-0 (Wayne Allison)
2000: Oldham Athletic (a), League Cup 1st rd 2nd leg, lost 0-2
2004: Hull City (h), League One (3rd tier), WON 4-0 (Pawel Abbott, Rob Edwards, Chris Brandon, Andy Booth)
2009: Milton Keynes Dons (a), League One (3rd tier), WON 3-2 (Jordan Rhodes, Theo Robinson, Anthony Kay)
Yes, I have had too much time on my hands.
Only allowed 5 videos in the article, so here's one from the Head to Head section I've added later.
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| Old Town player profiles - Iwan Roberts |
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Posted by: Lord Snooty - 30-08-2020, 19:48 - Forum: Huddersfield Town
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Alright, so the ones I've done before were all from the silent film era. Well here's a player some of you may have actually seen play.
Iwan Roberts was born in 1968 in Bangor, but grew up in the seaside town of Barmouth on the west coast of Wales. He signed for Town at the start of the 1990/91 season, brought in by Eoin Hand to replace Craig Maskell. We paid a record fee for him as well, but it was just the money we had received for Maskell from Reading. We bought him from Watford, where he had been given his debut by Graham Taylor, by which time he had already had his two front teeth knocked out. He scored his first professional goal in a First Division match against Manchester Utd at Vicarage Road, the only goal of a 1-0 win. Taylor left though for Aston Villa and the Hornets got relegated. Iwan took the plunge, dropping yet another league to join us in the 3rd division, in order to get regular first team football.
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His first Town goal came at Leeds Road against Bolton Wanderers, a 4-0 win in which Keith Edwards scored the other three. As well as Edwards, Iwan had plenty of striking experience alongside him in Peter Withe and then Frank Stapleton which helped develop his ruthless streak in front of goal. He finished that first season as joint top scorer with 14, joint with Kieran O'Regan. But the next season, playing alongside Phil Starbuck and Iffy Onuora, he slammed home a post war record of 34 as we made it to the Play Offs for the first time. It would've been 35 but had one chalked off after the one he scored against Blackpool in the Autoglass Trophy got fogged off at half time. He also scored twice in a famous League Cup victory over first division Sunderland, beating them 4-0 at home and 6-1 on aggregate. In the league, he got the first and fourth goals in our remarkable comeback from 0-4 down to draw 4-4 at Gigg Lane against Bury, in the iconic Gola electric hoops kit.
Sunderland got their revenge though, stealing our management team. Legendary Town boss Mick Buxton had come out of retirement to assist Ian Ross, but at the end of the season, after Iwan had once again top scored with 15, the Mackem's lured Buxton back to the north-east and he took Ross with him. Neil Warnock came in and for some reason didn't fancy Iwan. He was sold to 2nd division Leicester City in November and replaced with Exeter's Ronnie Jepson. Iwan left Leeds Road having scored 68 goals in a Town shirt, putting him 12th= in our all time goal scoring charts, level with Kevin McHale. The 66th of his 68 goals can be seen here in a 2-0 away win at York City, in the iconic Vileda rubbing rags kit.
He had already been capped for Wales when we signed him from Watford and he played five times for them as a Huddersfield Town player. He wore the red shirt against Austria, Argentina, Japan (getting sent off), Albania and Moldova.
He made an immediate impact at Filbert Street, scoring twice against Wolves after they were 0-2 down to secure a draw. Later that season, he scored a hat trick against their rivals Derby County and played at Wembley against them as well in a 2-1 Play Off Final win which then saw Iwan playing in by what now was being called the Premier League. He top scored for them in the Prem with 11 but they got relegated. They made the Play Offs again, beating Crystal Palace in the Final. He missed the match though through injury and didn't make it back to the Premier League as Leicester sold him to Wolves.
He only stayed there for one season, scoring a hat trick against West Brom and helping the side reach the Play Offs, which they lost in the semi finals against Palace. Wolves had forked out £1.3m for him, but in the summer of 1997, Mike Walker paid £850,000 to take him to Carrow Road.
It wasn't the best start in a Canary shirt for him though and he struggled in that first season. Walker was sacked to be replaced by Bruce Rioch, who partnered Iwan up front with young Craig Bellamy and the pair were soon banging 'em in. Iwan top scored in that and the next season, winning Player of the Year on both occasions. He had scored five times against us in those three seasons and new manager Steve Bruce tried to re-sign him for Town in 2000 as his contract was due to end, but he decided to sign on again at Norwich.
Iwan helped the Canaries reach the Play Offs in 2002, against Birmingham City in Cardiff. He came off the bench to score the Norwich goal which put them 1-0 up in extra time, only for Birmingham to equalise through Geoff Horsfield and the match went to penalties. Iwan took and scored the first one, but saves from ex Town keeper Nico Vaesen gave the Bluenoses the victory and a place in the Premier League.
Nigel Worthington took over as manager and made Iwan captain, but he only scored 7 times that season and by the next one, he was more on the bench than in the starting line up. However, the Canaries did win the Championship that season, which would be Iwan's last at Carrow Road. His last match was the last match of the season, away at Gresty Road against Crewe. With the title already won, Worthington put Iwan in the starting line up and made him captain. Iwan repaid him by scoring twice in a 3-1 win. He left Norwich as their third highest scorer of all time with 97 goals.
His international caps tally ended on 17, but the Welsh had some really top strikers back then and he was up against the likes of Mark Hughes, Ian Rush, Dean Saunders and his Norwich team mate Bellamy.
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He was 35 years old by the end of his Norwich career, but still played on, signing for Gillingham, who were a Championship club then. His debut was against Norwich's arch rivals Ipswich. There must've been a bit of the old East Anglian rivalry still in him as he got yellow carded five seconds into the match! He had been signed for Gillingham by Andy Hessenthaler, but when he got sacked, some twerp called Stan Ternent took over and didn't get on well with Iwan. He was sent out on loan to Cambridge United, managed by his old Norwich team mate Rob Newman. He scored his 200th league goal on his debut but at the end of the season he decided to retire. He now works in the media, splitting his time between Sky Sports, BBC Wales and the Norfolk local press.
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| Preston North End v Mansfield Town Deepdale 29/8/2020 |
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Posted by: themaclad - 28-08-2020, 15:56 - Forum: Preston North End
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We first met these lads in a FA Cup tie in 1949 , the next meeting was 31 years later when Alan Ball Senior was the manager.
LAST MEETING AT DEEPDALE
PRESTON NORTH END 1 MANSFIELD TOWN 0 Auto Windscreen game 27/1/1998
LAST MEETING
MANSFIELD TOWN 0 PRESTON NORTH END 4 League Cup 21/9/2004 in the Town side that night Alex Neil
MACS MEMORIES
This one is an oddity Town played a reserve game at Deepdale early 1990's We on 6-0 in the Town side was Daley Thompson Olympic Decathelete,I know this for a fact I was at the game
The first competitive action of the 2020/21 season gets underway on Saturday – two weeks before the Championship starts – as North End take on Mansfield Town in the first round of the Carabao Cup.
The Lilywhites are two weeks into the preparations for the start of the league campaign, but will hope to be ready for the clash with the Stags, who are playing their first competitive match since they beat now-promoted Northampton Town back in March!
This will mean it is their first experience of the behind closed doors environment, with PNE returning to Deepdale for the first time since they defeated Birmingham City back in mid-July.
Team News
PNE manager Alex Neil has confirmed that he will be without goalkeeper Declan Rudd, who played every minute or every league game in 2018/19, with Connor Ripley and Mathew Hudson competing for the slot between the sticks.
Darnell Fisher is also missing, along with Louis Moult, who is back running outside, but is yet to join his team-mates in full training after a year on the sidelines with an ACL injury suffered at Swansea City in August 2019.
For the visitors, midfielder Ollie Clarke will continue to be assessed in the days leading up to the fixture after a recent calf strain, but defender Joe Riley will miss the game due to an ACL injury suffered in training.
Opposition View
Stags boss Graham Coughlan is looking forward to bringing his side to PR1. Speaking to Mansfield Town’s official website he admitted it would be a new experience – without the supporters – but one they were ready for.
“We can’t wait to get going and we’re looking forward to Saturday,” he began. “It’s been a long, long time [since we’ve played competitively], but we’re getting close to our first competitive game.
“The adrenaline starts to kick in and we can’t wait to get going. You miss that adrenaline rush and the atmosphere.
“Saturday will be different – it will be hard as we won’t have the fans. But there will be a competitive edge, and you do miss that competitive side of the game.
“We’ll give a good account of ourselves [on Saturday] and the lads are looking forward to it. Let’s go, enjoy it, do our best, and see where we are at five o’clock on Saturday.
“Make no mistake, we want to win the game. We’re going down there to try and make a name for ourselves.
“We want to get through it injury-free, but if there’s a tackle to be made, we’ll tackle, if there’s a header to be won, we’ll win it.”
Match Officials
The referee for Saturday's game will be Ross Joyce, with Geoffrey Liddle and Paul Newhouse the assistants and the fourth official will be Simon Mather.
Ross was last the referee of the weekend’s opponents when Mansfield lost at Bradford City back in December 2019, 2-0 at the home of the Bantams.
However, after five years on the EFL lists, this will be his first time officiating the Lilywhites
Opposition fans view
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| HTAFC Prediction League 2020/21 Matchday 1 |
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Posted by: Lord Snooty - 28-08-2020, 13:52 - Forum: Huddersfield Town
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Here we go again, the new season of the Prediction League. Hope you can all join in again this year and if there are any onlookers wanting to play, well you're all welcome to have a go. Just join in, the rules are quite simple as listed below.
2 points for a correct result
4 points for a correct score
2 points for each correct scorer
Correct joker doubles your score
Wrong joker result gives you minus 2
Correct Random Badger gives you 2 points 
The random badger is used for any random prediction used once in each matchday sequence. For instance, a scorer at a particular match, the number of red cards in the matches or yellow cards or own goals or owt you want really within reason, I do need to be able to check whether it's correct or not. Please don't put stuff like....."Commentator says...."
The joker is played for one match in each sequence and if correct you get double points. So if you've predicted 1-0 and it finishes 2-0, you get 4 pts, but if you've predicted 2-0, that's 8 pts. But if you get it wrong, it's minus 2.
Jokers and badgers are optional. You don't have to play one if you don't want.
Cup games:
In the event of a draw, it's half the points if you've predicted a draw when it gets to 90 mins and the full points if it's still a draw after extra time. Half the points will be awarded for correctly predicting the winner of the match if it goes to penalties.
Random score generator: I will be using the random score generator again for those who miss predicting, so we shouldn't get some people too far behind that after missing a couple of weeks they lose all interest, because I know it's not easy getting on here every week.
To be fair to everybody, this is going to be like, say if three people in one week miss their predictions, the first one in the table will be given all 0-0, the second one down the line will get 1-0 and the third will get 0-1 and so on, like if there's four missing the 4th will get 1-1, then 5th 2-1, 6th 1-2. and if there are so many missing, might as well pack in. 
And if you miss two weeks on the trot, I'll stop until you come back on again. Not doing it for half a season like I did t'other year. 
EFL Cup:
Friday 4th September:
Middlesbrough v Shrewsbury Town (17:30)
Burton Albion v Accrington Stanley (19:30)
Saturday 5th September:
Rochdale v Town (played at JSS)
Town scorers:
Rochdale scorers:
Derby County v Barrow (12:00)
Walsall v Sheffield Wednesday (14:15)
Barnsley v Nottingham Forest
Bolton Wanderers v Bradford City
Salford City v Rotherham United
Sunderland v Hull City
Tranmere Rovers v Harrogate Town
Plymouth Argyle v Queens Park Rangers (12:30)
Luton Town v Norwich City
Milton Keynes Dons v Coventry City
Newport County v Swansea City
Sunday 6th September:
Brentford v Wycombe Wanderers (12:00)
Final Table 2019/20:
- jjamez = 855 pts
- themaclad = 820 pts
- Baggiebob(BBB) = 819 pts
- neonfoxinthebox = 818 pts
- theo_luddite = 791 pts
- St Charles Owl = 763 pts
- ritchiebaby = 739 pts
- SHEP_HTAFC = 738 pts
- Lord Snooty = 731 pts
- Beefy 1965 = 674 pts
- Amelia Chaffinch = 668 pts
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| Hibs v Aberdeen, Sun 30 August, KO 4.30pm |
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Posted by: 0762 - 28-08-2020, 00:05 - Forum: Hibernian
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Well this is a home match where I wanna see Hibs "flying out the traps" to take on Aberdeen in a really positive way. The way I see this impending confrontation is the fact that the Dons have played out a Europa League quali match tonight and I definitely wanna see Hibs testing out tired legs on Sunday. This is a game to try and grab 3 pts v a close challenger and they have also incurred some bad injuries to key players and IMO can be beaten by a form team. However, Hibs must play better than of late. C'mon Hibs!
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Posted by: Arcane Astral Aeons - 27-08-2020, 18:06 - Forum: West Bromwich Albion
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so they have decided to "Retire"
their soccer saturday pundits
or as we normal folk call it "Sack"
wont be the same without
Charlie
Matt
Phill
rumour has it they will be replaced by at least one woman
Alex Scott apparently
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| Loz Tweets for Harry ... on Utopia Avenue? |
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Posted by: Devongone - 27-08-2020, 11:07 - Forum: Chesterfield
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Our Loz has tweeted in favour of brother Hazza.
Interestingly (or not) I'm reading David Mitchell's latest novel Utopia Avenue, in it a member of a band is arrested in Italy, having been beaten up by police and having had cannabis planted on him. He is charged with assaulting the police. After much delay and contact with the British Consulate he is asked to sign a document, admitting he's done wrong and apologising and he'll be released. I won't spoil the plot any more than by saying he refuses to sign and that leaves the corrupt Italian police without a leg to stand on.
Harry doesn't strike me as the sharpest football brain in England, but his old alma mater St Mary's Chesterfield thought he was university material off the field of play - so he isn't a complete idiot either.
Our police spent years chasing the imaginings of a nut called Nick ruining lives and reputations in the process. So why are we so keen to trust the account of Greek police, who find themselves thrust into the position of having arrested the world's most expensive defender?
Shouldn't we avoid making assumptions about badly-behaved footballers or power-crazed police until the truth emerges? Certainly the phraseology attributed to Maguire in Greece doesn't sound as though it originated around Mosbrough.
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