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Rochdale in t' Carabooboo Cup - Lord Snooty - 01-09-2020

Rochdale v Huddersfield Town
The Carabao Cup 1st round
Saturday September 5th - 15:00 ko
at the Crown Oil Arena, Spotland John Smith's Stadium


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Huddersfield Town travel over the hills to Rochdale for a Carabooboo Cup 1st round match on Saturday afternoon. Well they would've done, but it's now Rochdale who are travelling over here to play at the JSS as they're having their pitch renovated and it won't be ready in time.  Rolleyes

Don't know what kind of team we will have playing. We've only had a couple of warm up matches, no summer training camp in Austria or anything like that. The two friendlies we have played have been mainly players from the newly formed B team and the likes of Christopher Schindler, Lewis O'Brien, Jonathan Hogg and Frazier Campbell have not been seen. Young Lewis and Hoggy we know are injured, but where are the returning players from loans like Terence Kongolo, Isaac Mbenza and Adama Diakhaby? Whatever team is selected, our opponents won't be a push over. They should be. They let eight players go in the summer and haven't replaced them, but with our recent League Cup record and the fact that this lot almost won at Old Trafford last season means that this won't be easy.


We are on the brink of a new era, if only......  as we welcome new Head Coach Carlos Corberán to the club, he replaces last season's saviour, manager Danny Cowley, who along with his brother Nicky, performed a minor miracle in turning around a disastrous start to the season and keeping us in the Championship. The boys were somewhat harshly sacked by Phil Hodgkinson, who decided he wanted a Head Coach rather than a manager and so here we are at the start of what we all hope will be a glorious new era.

So who is Carlos? Well he was born 37 years ago in Valencia and started his football career with his home town club as a goalkeeper. However, he never made it past the B team and so decided to go into coaching. And by the age of 26 he had landed a job at Villareal, where he eventually became assistant to Manuel Pellegrini. They played in the Champions League and the Europa League, but as soon as Carlos left to go take up a similar role in Saudi Arabia with Al-Ittihad, Villareal got relegated. He then moved back to Spain, coaching AD Alcorcon's youth team and back again to Saudi where he coached Al-Nassr FC alongside former Italian national team coach Fabio Cannavaro.

This led him to his first Head Coach position in 2016 in Cyprus with First Division side Doxa Katokopias, followed by another Cypriot club Ermis Aradippou. Then out of nowhere, he ended up in the culturally backward region of Beeston in the wilds of West Yorkshire. He was appointed u23 coach by new Leeds United manager Thomas Christiansen in June 2017, just as their near neighbours Huddersfield Town were preparing for life in the Premier League. Twelve months later, with Huddersfield Town still in the Premier League and the BellEnders still languishing in the desperate depths of the Sky Bet Championship, Carlos was promoted to first team coach by new Leeds boss Marcelo Bielsa. Whilst first team coach he, alongside Danny Schofield, managed their Development team to the PDL Northern League title and then the national Professional Development League title and alongside Bielsa got their first team promoted to the Premier League.

Then suddenly, he's Head Coach here! Here we go!


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Bienvenida, Carlos.


So what about our new players? Well so far we have two new signings. One a re-signing and yet another goalkeeper loaned from a Premier League side.

Danny Ward first came to us on loan in 2011 from Premier League club Bolton Wanderers. He'd made his debut for them in the Prem against Sunderland, as a sub in the opening game of the 2009/10 season. He went on loan at Swindon and Coventry and came to us in March 2011 to the end of the season and helped us qualify for the Play Offs. He made his debut in a 1-0 win down at Brentford when Peter Clarke scored in injury time. He scored his first goal for us in a magnificent 3-2 victory down at already promoted Brighton, who were playing their last ever match at the Withdean Stadium, which was the winner and the last ever goal scored at that ground.

Danny scored again in the Play Off semi final 2nd leg at home to Bournemouth and scored one of the penalties in the shoot out. And we'll once more just ignore the next game.  Whistle Lee Clark signed him back on again in the summer, paying Bolton a million quid for his services, which he repayed by bagging five goals against the likes of Rochdale, Stevenage and Yeovil. He helped us reach the Play Off Final again, hitting the bar with a shot in the second half at Wembley. We won on pens against Sheff Utd but he'd been subbed by then.

Up in the Championship he scored a first minute winner against Derby and a brilliant last minute winner against Boro. Those were his only goals in 2012/13 but improved in the next one, netting ten times. One of them came in the 3-2 win at home to Dirty Leeds and one at Bellend Road in another match where I won't mention the final score. Whistle He got four of his goals that season against Watford, including a hat trick in the final game of the season at Vicarage Road, just as his contract was about to expire, which persuaded the club to offer him a new deal.

But those three goals turned out to be his last in a Town shirt for the time being as he was moved on to Rotherham, initially on loan and then permanently in the summer. He scored for them at the JSS in a match that we won 2-1 in 2016/17.

He had three years with the Millers and then Cardiff City forked out a million and a half quid for him. He helped them get into the Premier League and scored one goal for them in the Prem, a defeat at home to Arsenal, as they joined us in getting relegated. And Danny made his last appearance at our ground just before lockdown as an 86th minute sub when Cardiff came up here and stuffed us 3-0.

But now he's back.

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Joel Pereira has come to us on loan from Manchester Utd and he has been previously on loan at today's opponents Rochdale. He's 24 years old, born in Boudevilliers, Switzerland. Despite all this, he plays internationally for Portugal. He has represented them in all under age groups from u15 to u21 and was also a member of the Portuguese Olympic squad in 2016, but didn't play.

He signed for United as a 16 year old and helped their u21 team win the title in 2015. This led to his loan out to the Crown Oil Arena, with Keith Hill praising him after a man of the match debut against Morecambe in the FL Trophy, in which he saved a penalty. Joel turned out on 8 occasions for the Dale before returning to Old Trafford.

At the end of the season he made his Man U debut (and only match so far) in the last match of the season and kept a clean sheet as the Red Devils beat Crystal Palace 2-0 at home.

He had more loans out. Two of them in Portugal, then Belgium and then last season in Scotland with Hearts. Joel turned out 25 times for them but unfortunately as lockdown started they were bottom of the league and were eventually relegated. Still, he came away with rave reviews from their fans. Whistle

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League Cup on a Saturday? I was assuming that this will be the first time we've played a League Cup match on a Saturday, as it's always been played midweek, but on investigation after a trigger in my memory suggested otherwise, I found my memory to be working perfectly well. Yes indeed, when the competition started putting on 2 legged rounds to start with in the mid 70s, the first legs were the opening games of the season and on a Saturday. The first occasion being in 1976 at home to Hartlepool Utd and the last time was a trip to play Blackburn Rovers in 1980.


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A brief history of Rochdale AFC: To be blunt, they've won sod all ...... literally. They must have the shortest honours board of all the clubs in the Football League. The outstanding feat of course, would be their League Cup runners up in 1962, the 2nd season of it's existence, losing 0-4 to Norwich over 2 legs. They were the first team from the bottom division to reach a major cup final, only Bradford City have done it since. In that run to the final, they beat Southampton after a replay, Doncaster Rovers, Charlton Athletic, York City and then beat Blackburn Rovers 4-3 on aggregate.

They have never reached the 2nd tier, now known as the Championship, but they had two Division 3 (North) runners up positions (1923/24 and 1926/27), when only the champions were promoted. Their highest league position since then was as recent as 2014/15 when they finished 8th in League One. But since their election into the FL in 1921, they have never been relegated to what is now known as the National League.

The Dale (brilliantly imaginative nickname) have been promoted three times, but never as champions. They were members of Division 3 (North) from 1921 to 1958 when the regional division 3s were made national and they were dumped into Division 4. So the first ever promotion was in 1969 when they were promoted to Division 3 alongside the Yorkshire trio of Doncaster Rovers, Halifax Town and Bradford City. They stayed there for five seasons before getting relegated in 1973-74, the season they first met the mighty Huddersfield Town.

It would be 36 years before they came back up again, a record number of seasons for any club to be in the basement division. That promotion came in 2009/10 when they finished 3rd to win automatic promotion with Notts County and Bournemouth. A decent finish in 9th place was then followed by relegation in the next as they finished bottom of the division. Two years later though and they again went up automatically, finishing 3rd behind Chesterfield and Scunthorpe Utd, under the management of Keith Hill. And to their credit, they have stayed there ever since.

They have reached the 4th division Play Offs on 3 occasions, losing to Rushden & Diamonds in 2002. Stockport in 2008 at Wembley, having beaten Darlington on penalties in the semi final. And then Gillingham beat them 2-1 on aggregate in 2009.


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Promoted to League 1 in 2014

Head to Head

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Town lead in the overall head to head with 13 wins to Rochdale's 2, with 10 draws.

We have met three times in the FA Cup. The most recent meeting was in that competition in the famous Play Off winning campaign of 2016/17. We won 4-0 with goals from three legends of the club. Collin Quaner scored on his debut. Izzy Brown scored a penalty and then makeshift striker Michael Hefele bagged a brace.




In 1991/92 a third division Town team, under the management of Eoin Hand, went to 4th division Rochdale, managed by Town legend David Sutton and won 2-1 with goals from Iwan Roberts and Iffy Onuora.

A few years prior to that, in 1988/89, we played out a 1-1 draw at Leeds Road, Andy May scoring for Town. The replay was a cup classic 4-3 Town win. Peter Withe, an own goal from O'Shaughanessy, Craig Maskell and Junior Bent getting the Town goals.

We last met at league level in League 1, our promotion season of 2011/12. Both games ended in 2-2 draws, with Lee Novak and Danny Ward scoring at Spotland and Ward again and Jordan Rhodes scoring at home. So our new signing has form scoring against the Dale.

The first time we played each other was when we were on our big slide down the league ladder in the 70s. It was 1973/74 and we drew 1-1 at Rochdale with a Steve Arnold og for us, but then beat them 5-0 at home with all five goals coming in a 2nd half blitz that gave us our biggest win of the season. Goals that day coming from Jimmy Lawson (2), Alan Gowling (2) and Phil Summerill.

We have only ever been beaten twice by Rochdale, out of a total of 25 matches that's probably our best record against any opponent. The most recent one was a really bad evening in 2010 when we travelled to play the newly promoted Dale and came away with a very poor 0-3 defeat and a very unhappy manager in Lee Clark.

The only other defeat came in this competition, the League Cup of 2001, when Rochdale turned up at the Galpharm Stadium for a 1st round tie. We had just been relegated to the 3rd division and life was looking really bad as they humiliated us by winning 1-0.

On a brighter note, we did play and beat them in the Mick Buxton era. That was in 1981 and we stuffed them over two legs in the 1st round, 7-3 on aggregate. Peter Fletcher (2) and Phil Wilson scored in a 3-1 home win and then two weeks later Fletch got another two, as well as one each from Ian Robins and Steve Kindon as we won 4-2 at Spotland.

And then there was that friendly last season where we launched this shirt!! Doh  Whistle  Blush  Sick

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So what's going on down at the Crown Oil Arena? Managed nowadays by Brian Barry-Murphy, who took over when Keith Hill was sacked in March 2019. He has been at Rochdale since 2010, joining them just after they had been promoted to League One and he played for them in the match that season against us when they beat us in the league for the one and only time.

He was born in Cork, 42 years ago and began his football career with his home town club as a defensive midfielder. He signed for Preston as a 20 year old and gained u21 caps for his country. Whilst there he went on a couple of loans, to Southend and Hartlepool, before signing for Sheffield Wednesday in 2003. He never scored for t' Owls, but became a regular on the scoresheet when he moved to Bury, netting 13 times in 6 years.

Only one goal though in his 8 years as a player for Rochdale, though most of those years were just keeping his name registered as a player while he took on a coaching role. He finally packed in at the age of 40 and within no time, he was head coach.

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Who's in their squad then? Well we'll start with who they don't have anymore. Dean Henderson was released in the summer, with the club citing Covid uncertainties as the reason. He's 35 years old, but he is the club's second highest all time record goal scorer with 126 goals for them. He has since joined Salford City. They also released strikers Aaron Wilbraham and Calvin Andrew. Another one to mention who got let go, goalkeeper Josh Lillis, son of our very own club legend Mark Lillis.

They let eight players go, and reading the statement doesn't look good for Dale fans, as they don't have plans for replacing them. The only one they have signed so far is from the non leagues. Midfielder Alex Newby signed from Chorley. He was a member of their squad that won promotion to the National League, but also got relegated again last season.

So with Lillis leaving, that just left ex Salford and Fylde goalie Jay Lynch. But they have now taken Republic of Ireland Under-21 goalkeeper Gavin Bazunu on loan from Man City. He's only 18 but was in their recent Champions League squad against Lyon.

In defence they have 35 year old central defender Jimmy McNulty who played against the Dale for Stockport in the 2008 Play Off Final. He later captained Barnsley when Keith Hill was boss there before going to Bury from where he signed for Hill who was by then back at Rochdale. Alongside him will be club captain Eoghan O'Connell, who also signed from Bury, but started out his career with Celtic under Brendan Rodgers. He played in the Champions League for them in 2016, but that was one of only 7 first team games for him before leaving for Gigg Lane. In between times he had loans out at Oldham, Cork City and Walsall.

Another experienced defender in the squad is Paul McShane, who played 30 times for Reading in the 2016/17 season, but missed out on the Play Off Final defeat to Huddersfield Town. He started out at Manchester Utd, without making the first team. He did play in their 2003 Youth Cup triumph and had loans out at Walsall and Brighton. He signed for West Brom in 2006 and then joined Sunderland in the Premier League after one season with the Baggies. He also played for Hull in the Prem before going to Barnsley, Crystal Palace and Reading, then signed on at the Crown Oil Arena last season. Also in defence is Northern Ireland international Ryan McLaughlin who joined from Blackpool last season.

In midfield there's Irishmen Stephen Dooley, Jimmy Keohane and Jimmy Ryan. Oliver Rathbone, central midfielder, was born when his dad Mick Rathbone was playing for Halifax Town. He now has over a hundred appearances for the Dale. Matt Done has almost two hundred appearances, over three stints with the club. In between he had been at Wrexham, Hereford, Barnsley, Hibs and Sheffield Utd. Matty Lund is in his second spell at Spotland. He had four seasons with them after he signed from Stoke in 2013. After leaving he played for Burton, Bradford City and Scunthorpe before returning in the January transfer window this year. Also in midfield they have Aaron Morley who came through the Academy.

So following the release of Henderson, Wilbraham and Andrew, who do the Dale have up top? Well they no longer have Rekeil Pyke either, who was on loan there from us last season, so the only two forwards now on the books are Kwadwo Baah and Fabio Tavares, who between them have a total of two league goals.



Club connections: Four Town players have managed Rochdale. The first one was back in 1934, a big name in Huddersfield Town history, the record appearances holder with a total of 574 games for us, scoring 126 goals. A career that brought him three League Championships, an FA Cup winners medal for which he scored the winning goal, and three England caps. After Town, he had one season managing Rochdale, as player/manager, which they finished 20th out of 22 teams in the 3rd Division (North). He was of course, Billy Smith.

He was born in the pit village Tantobie in the county of Durham in 1895, which is four miles away from where now stands the Beamish Museum. If you've never been, it's a recreated village from the 1800's, so it's very much reminiscent of what Tantobie was like when young Billy were a lad. He signed for Huddersfield Town at the age of 18 in 1913 and made his debut on Christmas Day at home to Hull City. The following day, the teams met again at Hull and Billy scored his first Town goal in a 1-4 defeat. Those were two of only four matches he played that season. The next season he turned out 24 times, scoring four goals. By now though the First World War had started and unlike WWII, they completed the football season. He stayed around for a while, playing in the Wartime League that had been set up to keep up morales, but he did join the Navy and didn't reappear in a Town shirt after 1916 until the 1919/20 season started.

That season was a funny old season for Town, as we nearly went bust, nearly got merged with Leeds, nearly won the FA Cup, but did get promoted to the First Division. He played 39 league games for us and all the FA Cup games right up to the Final. He didn't play in the Final. He had been sent off for fighting in a match against Stoke City a couple of weeks before and was suspended. Now bearing in mind that in those days you had to kill somebody to warrant being sent off, it must've been a right old scrap or a very fussy ref thinking he's reffing a 21st century Premier League game. Anyway, we lost the Final 0-1 against Aston Villa.

He had also missed a couple of league games due to making his international debut. He played twice for England, against Wales and Scotland. The game against Wales was a 1-0 win at Anfield with a goal from his future team mate Bob Kelly, who was playing for Burnley then. The Scotland match was a 0-1 defeat at Villa Park. He only played once more.

He scored 7 goals in the promotion push and then 3 in his first First Division season, but then bagged 12 in 1921/22, including 4 FA Cup goals as Town went one better this time and actually went and won the Cup for the one and only time so far in our history. He scored 2 in a 3rd round replay 5-0 victory at home to Blackburn Rovers, one in the semi final at Turf Moor, a 3-1 win over Notts County. And then in the Final he got the only goal of the game from the penalty spot after his own trickery in the area had won the awarded spot kick.

That was the first full season under the management of Herbert Chapman and it was completed in May by us winning the Charity Shield against champions Liverpool at Old Trafford. Billy played in the match that we won 1-0 with a Tom Wilson goal. The second one saw us finish in 3rd behind Liverpool and Sunderland when Billy score 9 times.

Then in 1923/24, we became champions for the first time, finishing level on 57 points with Cardiff City but with a better Goal Average. Now that was the rule back then and nobody can backtrack and take that away from us, but if they had today's rule, Cardiff would've won. We both had a Goal Difference of +27 and Cardiff had scored one goal more than us. Goal Average however favoured the team that had conceded fewer and so we were the champions. So Billy scored 13 goals in the season, the last of which was a consolation goal in the penultimate game, a 1-3 defeat at Villa Park. Turned out to be quite crucial, although it wouldn't have been known by then. We won our last match 3-0 against Nottingham Forest, whereas Cardiff drew 0-0 with Len Davies missing a penalty and the deal was sealed.

So next season we decided not to leave it too tight and had the luxury of drawing the final two matches and still win the title by two points over West Bromwich Albion. Billy bagged 9 goals this season. One of them was a historic moment. the rules concerning corner kicks had been tinkered with in the close season, making it possible to score directly from a corner kick. And in a home 4-0 win against Arsenal on October 11th 1924, Billy became the first player in the world to do so.

He scored just six in the next one, missing the first half of the season as we claimed the title for the third time in a row. We topped the table by 5 points from Chapman's Arsenal (he'd moved there in the summer) and it was a 3-0 home win against Bolton Wanderers that won us the title with a couple of games to spare. Billy scored the first goal of the match, with Alex Jackson and Clem Stephenson getting the others on the 12th of April 1926, a date celebrated each year as Huddersfield Town Day.

The next season we finished runners up, five points behind Newcastle. Billy scored eight. He managed 17 though in the next one as we again finished in second, this time behind Everton. And it was against Everton in a 4-1 win at Leeds Road that Billy scored his first Town hat trick. He also scored 4 times in the FA Cup run all the way to Wembley, which we lost 1-3 against Blackburn Rovers. Two of his goals were in a brilliant quarter final win in March at home to Spurs as we smashed them 6-1 with George Brown getting the other 4.

Later that month, he gained his third and final England cap. It was at Wembley against Scotland and although he hit the post with a shot in the first minute, it was his Town team mate Alex Jackson who came out smiling as he scored a hat trick as the Scots trounced England 5-1, the famous Wembley Wizards. As with Billy's first cap, it was Bob Kelly who got the England goal, a last minute consolation this time and he was now a Huddersfield Town player. Tom Wilson and Roy Goodall were also in the England team, the only time we've had four players in one international team.

In the following season 1928/29, Town struggled, finishing 16th, a great disappointment after the glories of the previous years, but did get as far as the FA Cup semis, with Billy bagging a couple of goals in the cup run. The first of his Cup goals, the first in a 3-0 4th round win at home to Leeds Utd was his 100th Huddersfield Town goal.

Up to tenth in 1929/30 and one better in the Cup, reaching another Wembley Final, which unfortunately we lost to Arsenal 0-2. Billy scored one of the goals in the cup run, the first one in a 2-1 quarter final win away at Aston Villa.

A better finish in the next season, ending up 5th, with Billy scoring 4 times in 30 appearances. One of the games he missed, replaced on the left wing by Jimmy Smailes shortly before his transfer to Spurs, was the club record 10-1 win at home to Blackpool. He did score in the return fixture at Bloomfield Road though, a 1-1 draw.

In 1931/32 we went one place higher than before, finishing 4th, eight points behind the champions Everton. Billy scored 7 goals but ably assisted Dave Mangnall in his club record scoring 42 goals in a season. He also played in front of the Leeds Road record attendance this season when Arsenal came to Town and left with a 1-0 FA Cup 6th round win in front of 67,037 spectators.

Just three goals for Billy in the next season, including two in a 4-0 win at Newcastle, who finished a place above us as we ended the season in 6th. He only played 17 games this season, but he was 37 years old by now and coming towards the end of his career. Also in this season, he had his fourth benefit match, on November 11th, a home league match against Sheffield Wednesday, which we won 3-2 with two goals from George McLean and one from Mangnall.

He had one more season at Leeds Road before leaving for Rochdale. He scored 5 goals from 19 matches as Town finished runners up behind Arsenal. His last goal was in his last match, a 4-1 win away at Sheffield United on February the tenth 1934, three months before his 39th birthday.

He then had his one season as manager of Rochdale, the highlight of which was a 6-1 win at home to Gateshead, with a downside being a 0-5 home defeat by Stockport County.

His son Conway Smith also became a Town player. Not quite the medal haul of his dad but he did score over a hundred league goals, becoming the first father and son to do so. He scored 5 for Town but then hit 81 for QPR before coming back to Yorkshire and scoring 73 for Halifax Town.

T'owd lad had a leg amputated later in life, caused by an untreated footballing injury and sadly Billy Smith died in Huddersfield, of cancer in 1951, aged just 57.


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The most recent Town connection in the Spotland hot seat is the current manager of Carlisle Utd. Chris Beech wasn't really in the actual hot seat for long. He was caretaker for six matches following the departure of Steve Eyre and the appointment of John Coleman. However, he had played for them after he left us for a couple of seasons, before becoming Youth Team manager. He was later assistant to Keith Hill and when he was sacked last year, Chris left at the same time, ending an association with the Dale for 17 years. Before all that though, he had played for Blackpool (playing for them in the last ever match at Leeds Road) and Hartlepool when Peter Jackson signed him for us in 1998. A combative midfielder with an eye for goal, he scored 4 times in his first season with the Town, two of them in a couple of FA Cup games against Premier League Derby County. He bagged ten the following season, under the new management of Steve Bruce. He scored the first goal in the 7-1 win at home to Crystal Palace, but his best was probably the header from the edge of the area at Maine Road to give us a famous 1-0 win over Manchester City. Injuries kept him down to just a few games in the next two seasons though and Town went down. Beech only scored one more goal in those two years and he was sent off to Spotland.

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Terry Dolan managed them for a couple of seasons (1989-91) after a stint in charge of Bradford City. He left them for Hull, but whilst there he took them on their record FA Cup run. After beating Marine, Lincoln City, Whitley Bay and Northampton Town, they went out in the 5th round with a 0-1 defeat away at Crystal Palace, who made it all the way to the Final. Earlier in life, he had played in all four divisions for us, starting out in Division One in 1970 and ending in 1976 as a 4th division player getting transferred to Bradford City.

David Sutton was a member of that famous 1979/80 4th Division championship winning side under Mick Buxton. He formed a brilliant centre back partnership with Keith Hanvey and gained promotion again with the Terriers before eventually transferring to Bolton, where he again got promoted, this time through the Play Offs. He then left to play with Rochdale in 1988, but injury forced his retirement. He became the club's physio and when manager Danny Bergara was sacked, Dave took on the caretaker's role for three games until the aforementioned Dolan arrived. When TD left for Hull, Dave was again in caretaker charge, then was given the role full time for the 1991/92 season. He had the Dale up in the top half of the 4th division, flirting with but just missing the Play Offs twice. He left by mutual consent in November 1994.


Two team mates of Sutton from the Buxton era, Malcolm Brown and Brian Stanton both also ended their careers with the Dale. They were teammates at Bury before coming here, Mally came first, signed by Tom Johnstone and Stanny came during the 1979/80 season, signed by Mick Buxton. Mally was a brilliant overlapping full back, providing many an assist for Kindon, Robins and Fletcher. And Stanny was the right sided midfielder he was doing the overlapping with (they weren't known as wing backs then). Mallly is 6th on our all time appearances list, but tops the chart for consecutive appearances. He totalled 403 games for Town, 259 of them in an unbroken spell. That spell only came to an end when he was transferred to Newcastle. Ironically he missed the entire first season with the Magpies after a pre season injury ruled him out. He came back to us when his contract at Sid James' Park ran out, then left to go to Rochdale four years later. He was signed on at the Dale by his old Town team mate Sutton and if you watch the video I posted in the Head to Head section you may spot his lanky frame in a  Rochdale kit. He didn't stay there long and was transferred to Stockport where he was named in the PFA team of the year for the fifth time, the other four obviously were with us. After Stockport, he went back for another season at Spotland before hanging up his boots.

Stanny scored 54 goals for us, putting him 20th in our all time goal scoring list. Four of them came in a fantastic New Years Day win over Bradford City in 1983 as we came from behind to bash the Billy Bantams 6-3. He scored on his debut, a 1-1 draw at Scunthorpe and then scored his first goal at Leeds Road in the 7-1 win against Port Vale. That was in the 4th Division championship winning season and he scored ten in total. Sixteen in the next one as we almost got back to back promotions. Only three in the one after that as we struggled. But he was back in form in the following season as we did win promotion to the 2nd Division. There were those 4 against Bradford, three of which were part of a six minute hat trick. He also had a couple of FA Cup goals, one of them in a 1-1 draw with 1st Division Chelsea. He scored against them again in the 2nd Division after they had been relegated. His appearances were getting limited by now and after scoring his last goal for Town in a 3-1 win at home to Leeds Utd, he went on loan to Wrexham and then joined Rochdale, where he stayed for two seasons, scoring four goals.

Peter Valentine started his career with us, playing 19 times in the early 80s, but as a centre back his appearances were limited due to the aforementioned Sutton and Hanvey. He went to Bolton, Bury and Carlisle, then ended his career at Rochdale, turning out 50 times for them.

Les Chapman and Bobby Hoy played in our 2nd Division championship winning team. Bobby played 28 games and scored 7 times that season, whereas Les only turned out twice. Les played a few more for us in the First Division and scored one of the most famous goals of our time in the top tier. That was in the 2-1 win at home to Arsenal and won Goal of the Month on MOTD. We signed him as a 20 year old from Oldham and that was the beginning of his career. Much later, aged 35, he turned up at Rochdale where he made 88 appearances before going on to manage Stockport and Preston. He came back to us for a short while as youth coach, but then took on his longest standing role as kit man for Man City.
Bobby left us for Blackburn in 1975 after making 144 appearances and joined Rochdale in 1978, scoring 12 goals for them in 66 games.

Grant Holt came to us on loan from Wigan in 2014 and scored twice for us. This was towards the back end of his much travelled career. It was at Rochdale that he first made a name for himself, having joined them from Sheff Weds in 2004 he scored 42 goals from 83 appearances for them, which persuaded Nottingham Forest to fork out three hundred grand for him. He dropped to Shrewsbury, but then moved to Norwich, who forked out four hundred grand for him. Norwich were in League One then and despite losing 1-7 at home to Colchester on his debut, they did win the title and he top scored with 30.
He returned to Spotland in 2016, scoring twice in 14 games and then left Spotland for Scotland and had a season with Hibs. He is now a professional wrestler.

Harry Bunn joined us from Man City in 2013 and scored 15 goals from 91 games, the most famous one obviously being the one he got at the Etihad to put us one up against City in the FA Cup. Earlier, he had played 6 games for Rochdale, making his league debut away at MK Dons. He then played against Preston in the League Cup and scored. So impressed were they that they persuaded City to end his loan at the Dale and took him to Deepdale. He now plays for York City.

Ian Gray played 78 times in goal for Rochdale in the 90s. In 2003, he was signed by Peter Jackson for Town and played in our promotion season. He didn't complete the season though, having his hand broken in the FA Cup match at Accrington and being replaced by Paul Rachubka, who went on to be the penalty saving hero against Mansfield instead. Unfortunately, the injury forced him into early retirement, aged 29.

Robbie Williams (no not that one) played left back for us for three seasons after being at Barnsley and Blackpool before. After us, he went to Stockport and then Rochdale. He only played 9 times for the Dale. They, like many Town fans, didn't rate him.

Donal McDermott was on loan from Man City at Bournemouth when we played them in the 2011 Play Offs. He scored in the first leg. So impressed was Lee Clark that he signed him for us next season. Unfortunately, he turned out to be not that good and only scored once for us, an EFL Trophy match at Northampton. We sent him back to Bournemouth and by the time we played Rochdale in the FA Cup in 2017, he had turned up there. He was an unused sub in that match, but he did play 54 times for them. He left them for Swindon, but since his release from there in 2018, he hasn't been seen.

Neal Trotman came on loan to us from Preston in 2010 and played in the Play Offs against Millwall. He joined Rochdale in 2012, played 12 times for them, but they were so unimpressed that they sent him out on loan to Chesterfield.

Rekeil Pyke: finally made his Town debut last season. He came on in the 89th minute of the 2-3 defeat down at Fulham. Manager Danny Cowley had recalled him from his loan spell at Rochdale because he wanted to have a look at him first hand. He must've had a good look at him in that one minute of action......he never picked him again and the poor lad was released at the end of the season. He'd had two spells on loan at the Dale. He went there in January 2019 for the rest of the season and then returned on a season long loan, that Cowley cut short. In that time, he scored three goals, against Bolton in the Carabooboo, at Fleetwood in the league and away at Bradford City in the EFL Trophy.
He's now signed a permanent deal with Shrewsbury Town.



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Rekeil Pyke



'ow to get theere an' wheere to sup: Depending where you're starting out from. If you're setting off from the Aspley Marina, take the Huddersfield Narrow Canal towards  Golcar, Slaithwaite, Marsden, through the Standedge Tunnel, Saddleworth, Diggle, Uppermill, Greenfield, Mossley, Stalybridge, Ashton-under-Lyne, before joining up with the Ashton Canal at Manchester and then the Rochdale Canal towards Failsworth and on to Rochdale.

If leaving from Town's training Canalside Complex, go east on the Huddersfield Broad Canal towards Brighouse, joining up with the Calder & Hebble Navigation to Elland, then Sowerby Bridge where you join the Rochdale Canal. Go through Hebden Bridge, Todmorden, Littleborough and on to Rochdale.

With both routes, moor up near Lock 50, which is a half hour walk to the Crown Oil Arena at Spotland. On the way, call in at the Cemetery Hotel, which welcomes away fans.

However, the game is now being played at our ground, so any Rochdale fans reading this, just reverse the above directions to either Aspley or Canalside.

But it's behind closed doors anyway, so just ignore all that and watch it on ifollow. It'll only cost you a tenner, even if you are a season ticket holder.


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Lock 50 Rochdale Canal



Rochdale in popular culture: Despite being mostly noted these days for having a paedophile ring, and a nonce for an MP for many years in the shape of big, fat Cyril Smith, Rochdale has in fact got a very good history. It is the birthplace of the Co-operative movement, which has over a billion members world wide. The Rochdale Society of Equitable Pioneers, founded in 1844, was as a response to the high cost and frequent adulteration of basic foodstuffs by shopkeepers at the time. In other words, fighting back against rip off merchants as well as providing benefits and education for members. Proper society.

In popular culture though, they have two top class songstresses, both born with the name Stansfield. Apparently unrelated though, Gracie Fields and Lisa Stansfield were both hugely popular.

Gracie was even made a Dame by Her Maj in 1979. She was born as Grace Stansfield, over a fish n chip shop in 1898 and towards the back end of her career she appeared at Batley Variety Club and said; "I was born over a fish and chip shop – I never thought I'd be singing in one!". Her most famous song was Sally, which was worked into the title of her first film in 1931, Sally In Our Alley. She had had cancer surgery in 1939 but still went and entertained the troops during the war. But as she then got married to an Italian film director, Monty Banks, she had to leave the country and went to live in America. After he died in 1950, she got married to a Romanian bloke and went to live on the island of Capri, but still performed, made films and records, culminating in that appearance at the world famous Batley Variety Club in 1968, the pinnacle of anybody's career.




Lisa was born in neighbouring Heywood in 1966 and in 1989 topped the singles chart with her debut solo single All Around The World. Before that though, she had been a child star on programmes such as Razzamatazz and the Krankies Klub. The parallels with Gracie's life are worth noting. She also married an Italian, had hit records and got into acting. Gracie had been the first Miss Marple on screen and Lisa later appeared in ITV's Agatha Christie's Marple in the episode Ordeal By Innocence.
It's her singing though that she will be remembered for, with hits such as Change, All Woman and In All The Right Places.



Talking of actors who have had chart topping records, Don Estelle of It Ain't Half Hot Mum fame, was born in Crumpsall but lived and died in Rochdale. He had a number 1 single with his co star Windsor Davies in 1975 with Whispering Grass. He had emigrated to New Zealand, but returned home to die and is buried in Rochdale Cemetery, close to the football ground.

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Dr Who actor Colin Baker, moved to Rochdale with his parents when he was 3 and was brought up in the town. Anna Friel, star of a certain scene in the soap opera Brookside was from Rochdale. MOTD and 5Live presenter Mark Chapman, radio personalities Liz Kershaw and her brother Andy Kershaw, and former Chancellor of the Exchequer, Sajid Javid were all also born in Rochdale.

And bird watching Goodie, Bill Oddie was born in the town, but moved to Birmingham as a child. Here he is performing a song about a local lassie.




Town's League Cup record: is really poor, considering what a big club we are.  Whistle

Our best season was back in the 1967/68 season, the season I first started watching. We reached the semi finals then, losing to Arsenal over two legs, but I didn't see any of these games, probably because I was only 7 and my dad obviously thought I was too young for night matches.  Sad

Anyway, to get to that stage we beat Wolves at home 1-0, Norwich away 1-0, West Ham at home 2-0, and Fulham 2-1 at home in a replay after a 1-1 draw down at theirs.
In the semi final we went down to Highbury for the first leg and narrowly lost 3-2, with goals from Trevor Cherry and Colin Dobson. Back at Leeds Road for the second leg we drew level on aggregate when Tony Leighton scored early on, but Arsenal scored three times to make it 6-3.

We had a famous win at Bellend Road in 1982/83, which was a 3rd round match. Third division Town had won two legged encounters over Doncaster Rovers and Oxford Utd and then beat the "Champions of Europe", Leeds United 1-0 with a second half goal from David Cowling, which in those days of Town being in their massive shadow, was a thing to celebrate. We lost 1-0 at Arsenal in the next round.

We have only got as far as the 4th round on three occasions. In the 67/68 and 82/83 seasons already mentioned, and in 1999/2000.

That last one was the year we won down at Chelsea in the 3rd round, a famous win and a famous goal coming from Kenny Irons. Earlier we had beaten Scunthorpe Utd and Notts County, both over two legs. And then we went out in the 4th round, beaten at home by Wimbledon, who were in the Premier League back then, 2-1 after extra time.

Since then our record has been appalling. This century we have only reached the 3rd round three times. In 2003/04, our post administration season under the guidance of Peter Jackson, we beat Derby at home and Sunderland away before losing at Reading. In 2013/14, home victories over Bradford City and Charlton Athletic gave us hope of a cup run, only to be dashed by a 1-0 defeat at Hull City. And most recently in 2017/18 when we had a first round bye before beating Rotherham at home and losing at Crystal Palace.

We have been embarrassed by lower league opposition, the likes of Oldham, Rochdale, Mansfield, Notts County, Shrewsbury and last season Lincoln City, have all given us a rotten kick up the arse.

So the only managers to get us to the 4th round of the League Cup are all club legends. Ian Greaves, Mick Buxton and errm *cough cough* Steve Bruce.  Whistle Is Carlos Corberán the man to do it this season?


Apologies if you've read most of this before. It's an update from last season's League Cup thread.



Rochdale's recent League Cup encounters:

It's not been very good for us for many years in this competition, but what about our opponents? Well last season they made it to the 3rd round where they faced the mighty Manchester United at Old Trafford. And with a late equaliser from 16 year old Luke Matheson they took the Red Devils to a penalty shoot out, which they lost 3-5. Matheson was then sold to Wolves for a million quid, a club record.



Last 5 seasons:
19/20:
Rochdale 5-2 Bolton
Rochdale 2-1 Carlisle
Man Utd 1-1 Rochdale (lost on pens)

18/19:
Grimsby 0-2 Rochdale
Middlesbrough 2-1 Rochdale

17/18:
Mansfield 0-1 Rochdale
Stoke 4-0 Rochdale

16/17:
Rochdale 3-1 Chesterfield
QPR 2-1 Rochdale

15/16:
Rochdale 1-1 Coventry (won on pens)
Hull 1-0 Rochdale


Pre season friendlies:
Town 2-1 Bradford City
Town 3-3 Man Utd u23's

Atherton Collieries 1-4 Rochdale
Stockport 0-2 Rochdale
Oldham 0-1 Rochdale
Port Vale 2-1 Rochdale


September the 5th down the ages: How did we get on in previous matches played on this date?

Well the 5th of September 1908 is a very important date in the history of Huddersfield Town. It is the date of the very first official Town match. Match number one. It was played in the North Eastern League, away at South Shields Adelaide Athletic. We lost 0-2 and the official attendance was 5,000.

1908: South Shields (a) NEL, lost 0-2
1914: Preston NE (a) Div 2, drew 1-1 (Ernie Islip)
1925: Sheffield Utd (a) Div 1, WON 3-2 (Charlie Wilson, Alex Jackson, George Brown)
1931: Chelsea (a) Div 1, WON 1-0 (Billy Smith)
1932: Leicester City (a) Div 1, lost 1-3 (Billy Smith)
1934: Derby Co (a) Div 1, lost 1-4 (Austen Campbell)
1936: Arsenal (h) Div 1, drew 0-0
1942: Barnsley (h), Wartime League North, drew 3-3 (Arthur Thompson, Billy Price 2)
1953: Blackpool (a), Div 1, lost 1-3 (Willie Davie)
1959: Leyton Orient (h) Div 2, drew 1-1 (Peter Dinsdale)
1962: Norwich City (a), Div 2, WON 3-2 (Mike O'Grady 3)
1964: Newcastle Utd (h), Div 2, lost 0-1
1970: Coventry City (a), Div 1, drew 0-0
1981: Oxford Utd (a), Div 3, lost 0-1
1998: Sheffield Utd (h), Div One (2nd tier), WON 1-0 (Wayne Allison)
2000: Oldham Athletic (a), League Cup 1st rd 2nd leg, lost 0-2
2004: Hull City (h), League One (3rd tier), WON 4-0 (Pawel Abbott, Rob Edwards, Chris Brandon, Andy Booth)
2009: Milton Keynes Dons (a), League One (3rd tier), WON 3-2 (Jordan Rhodes, Theo Robinson, Anthony Kay)


Yes, I have had too much time on my hands.


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Only allowed 5 videos in the article, so here's one from the Head to Head section I've added later.


RE: Rochdale in t' Carabooboo Cup - WakeyTerrier - 01-09-2020

Can we re hire Wor Lee's Selection Bingo machine to pick the team.

Distinct lack of First teamers on show pre season thanks to injuries and god knows what else.

A goalkeeper who most don't want here or a goalie most have never heard of.

Midfield looking light with the absence of Hogg and O'Brien

Its a tough call who plays this weekend, will he go with Diakhaby or Mbenza even though they haven't played pre season


RE: Rochdale in t' Carabooboo Cup - SHEP_HTAFC - 01-09-2020

I'd be quite happy to play the kids in this tie.
Rochdale are maybe a slightly better standard than Bradford and Man Utd U23's....and we played fantastic against both of them.
There are no points at stake - which is the main priority this season....so play them.
Brilliant thread as well Snoots Thumb up


RE: Rochdale in t' Carabooboo Cup - Lord Snooty - 01-09-2020

Well I'd start with Pereira in goal. I really don't want to jump on the Hamer's shite bandwagon, but bloody hell, that was bad against Man Utd.
Rowe at right back, Toffers at left. Schindler, if fit, and Crichlow at CB.
Austerfield in the Hoggy role,with Pritchard and Bacuna. Then Koroma on the right, Grant on the left with Wardy up top.

We're back to 3 subs from 7 again and the drinks breaks have been dropped. So who does that leave on the bench?

Big Steve, DD, Hamer, Stears, Daly, Jaden Brown and Obiero or Harratt.

This squad is a bit thin. Blush


RE: Rochdale in t' Carabooboo Cup - WakeyTerrier - 01-09-2020

The kids look promising but surely with just the Rochdale game to go before we face Norwich City we want to give players the chance to play in the same team as each other?

The squad is very thin M'lord


RE: Rochdale in t' Carabooboo Cup - Lord Snooty - 04-09-2020

Carlos is on with his press conference. Says Hogg, Schindler and Diakhaby are available.
Confirmed that Grant and Mounie are in talks to leave and won't be involved tomorrow.

The Carabao Cup Round Two and Three draws will take place on Sunday 6 September live on Sky Sports.

Hosted by David Garrido the draws will be conducted by former Liverpool defender and 1995 EFL Cup winner Phil Babb, following the Round One Carabao Cup tie between Brentford and Wycombe Wanderers.  

The Round Two draw is unseeded and will remain regionalised with northern and southern sections.

Upon its conclusion, the Round Three draw will then take place with each tie given a number in the order that they came out in the Round Two draw - they will then be subject to another unseeded draw on an either/or basis, alongside the seven Premier League Clubs competing in Europe who enter at this stage.

Having the draws conducted together will enable the EFL, Clubs and broadcasters to plan with additional clarity and certainty over a busy period of fixtures whilst supporters are unable to attend fixtures.

Joining the Carabao Cup at the Round Two stage are the 13 Premier League Clubs that are not competing in Europe in the 2020/21 season, including Everton, West Ham and Wolverhampton Wanderers alongside Sky Bet Championship sides Bournemouth and Watford.  The remaining clubs, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United, Chelsea, Leicester City, Tottenham Hotspur and Arsenal will join in Round Three.

Three Round One fixtures will be shown live on Sky Sports over the weekend starting with Barrow making their first appearance in the competition in 48 years with a trip to Championship side Derby County in the Saturday 12pm kick-off.   Walsall v Sheffield Wednesday follows at 2:15pm with Brentford hosting Wycombe Wanderers in the Sunday 12pm fixture in their first competitive match in their new stadium.


RE: Rochdale in t' Carabooboo Cup - theo_luddite - 05-09-2020

Personally - I'd put Hamer in goals and make him the Cup goalie only - we won't see him again until January unless this loaner from t'other side o't'hill is no better. Hopefully by that time we'll have Schofield back anyway.

Yes, I'm expecting our usual progress towards the 2nd Round of the Cup today.

Apparently we have done


RE: Rochdale in t' Carabooboo Cup - Lord Snooty - 05-09-2020

Town’s team vs Rochdale
1. Ben Hamer
3. Harry Toffolo
6. Jonathan Hogg
7. Juninho Bacuna
10. Alex Pritchard
19. Josh Koroma
25. Danny Ward
26. Christopher Schindler ©
27. Romoney Crichlow
29. Aaron Rowe
30. Ben Jackson
Substitutes
Joel Pereira; Adama Diakhaby, Richard Stearman, Isaac Mbenza, Jaden Brown, Josh Austerfield, Mustapha Olagunju

Quote:Head Coach Carlos Corberán has named his side for his first competitive match in charge of Huddersfield Town; today’s 3pm Carabao Cup kick-off against Rochdale.

The Spaniard has handed competitive Huddersfield Town debuts to two Academy graduates who have impressed during pre-season; defender Romoney Crichlow and midfielder Ben Jackson.
Crichlow, 21, will line up alongside Club Captain Christopher Schindler at centre half today. He has played senior football for Enfield Borough, Bradford (Park Avenue), Hartlepool United and Welling United, but today will be his first competitive appearance in Town colours.
Jackson, 19, will start in central midfield. He spent the majority of the 2019/20 season on loan in the Vanarama National League with Stockport County, and will make his first Town start today having been an unused substitute twice last season.
There’s also a first home start for 19-year-old Aaron Rowe, who has previously started two away games for the Terriers.
Alongside Schindler, the Terriers also welcome Jonathan Hogg back from a small injury issue this afternoon. The long-serving midfielder starts, whilst Adama Diakhaby and Isaac Mbenza return to the match day squad as substitutes.
The returning Danny Ward starts in attack, whilst fellow summer recruit Joel Pereira – who played for Rochdale on loan previously – is among the substitutes.
Another two potential debutants – centre back Mustapha Olagunju and midfielder Josh Austerfield – are among the subs too.

Rochdale:
1. Bazuna
2. Mclaughlin
5. McShane
6. O'Connell ©
7. Dooley
8. Morley
10. Newby
13. Keohane
14. Rathbone
16. Done
20. Ryan

Subs: Lynch, Tavares, Bradley, Baah, Brierley, Dunne, McNulty.


RE: Rochdale in t' Carabooboo Cup - Lord Snooty - 05-09-2020

Not good enough...…..yet!

Lucky to be level. Rochdale's goal looked offside, but I'm sure it came off one of our lads, so should've stood. We look half decent going forward, but the passing isn't always accurate. This is much better than our usual Carabooboo performances though. Last year against Lincoln was awful. This is better so far, but we need to improve in the 2nd half.

Ffs! 0-1

Oddest sub ever! Diakhaby on for Schindler.

Mbenza now on for Hogg.

Austerfield on for Ward.

This is shite now.

BOOOOOOOOO!!!!


RE: Rochdale in t' Carabooboo Cup - theo_luddite - 05-09-2020

No big surprises here then. Most of the possession, most of the shots, most on target, nobody with a clue where the onion bag is. Won by a header by a defender, they let their leading scorer walk away this summer, from a free kick that the keeper and the defence didn't deal with.

and I've just started my tea on the BBQ and it's started to rain. Marvelous.