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  Chesterfield Prediction League 2021/22 Matchday 27
Posted by: spireitematt - 05-01-2022, 21:21 - Forum: Chesterfield - Replies (6)

Aldershot 2-0 Maidenhead United
Barnet 2-3 Altrincham
Bromley 1-2 Solihull Moors
Dover 0-3 Notts County
Halifax 2-0 Eastleigh
King's Lynn 0-2 Woking
Torquay 3-3 Dag & Red
Weymouth 1-2 Southend



League Table After Matchday 26

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Devon = 296
St Charles = 292
Dancing = 288
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  Burnley in t' cup
Posted by: Lord Snooty - 05-01-2022, 19:39 - Forum: Huddersfield Town - Replies (46)

Burnley v Huddersfield Town
FA Cup round 3
Saturday January 8th - 12:30 ko
at Turf Moor


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Huddersfield Town travel to Burnley in deepest, darkest Lancastershire to the Turf Moor Stadium on Saturday dinnertime for an exciting FA Cup 3rd round match between the reserve teams of each club. Blush It's a match that Town will be desperate to win however, this season marking one hundred years since our one and only FA Cup triumph, way back in 1922.

Hopefully, head coach Carlos Corberán won't make as many changes to the team as he did last season when he changed the entire starting XI for the game against Plymouth. We're on a roll, six games unbeaten, surely he won't do that again. Maybe a start for the returning from injuries like Pipa, Aaron Rowe and Jordan Rhodes, but keep the squad as it is. There's a full week each side of this fixture, surely the lads are fit enough for a game against a Burnley side that are struggling in the Premier League and pathetically surrendered on Sunday against a very poor Leeds Urinals side.


Tickets:
Adults £15
Seniors (65+) £10
Under 23 £10
Under 17 £5

A brief history of Burnley FC: formed in 1882, they moved into Turf Moor in the following year and were one of the 12 founding members of the Football League in 1888. They did nowt, being a lower end of the league club and got relegated in 1897. They came straight back up though, winning the 2nd division title in 1898. That title win didn't get them up automatically though. Back then they had "test matches", similar to today's Play Offs, but involving the bottom two of the 1st Division and the top two of the 2nd Division. Controversially, they and Stoke both went up as by the time they met, each club only needed a draw to go up and so played out a goal less draw, in a game where there wasn't any shots at goal. So the Football League introduced automatic promotion in the next season.

After the two losing clubs complained, the League also extended the 1st Division from 16 to 18 clubs, with the two losers, Blackburn and Newcastle starting the next season in there. Burnley went back down again in 1900 and spent the first decade of the new century in Division Two, but did win their place at the top back again in 1913. They also made it to the semi finals of the FA Cup that season, but went one better by making the Final in the next one. Not only that, they won it as well, beating Liverpool 1-0 with a goal from Bert Freeman, at Crystal Palace.

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They were doing well in the League now, but then the first world war came along. Despite having players killed in the conflict, they managed to finish runners up to West Brom in the first season back and then actually went and won the League title in 1920/21.

They couldn't retain the title and struggled later on in the decade, finally going down in 1930, shortly after Jack Hill had retired, with a club record of 569 appearances behind him. They also had record goal scorer George Beel in the team at this time and when he left for Lincoln in 1932, he had scored 188 goals in the Claret shirt.

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Those claret shirts changed to white in the 30s, in which time, 16 year old Tommy Lawton became their youngest ever player. He would score 16 goals in that season before being sold to Everton, where he would become one of the most prolific strikers of the time.

With not much going on in the world between 1939 and 45, a group of Burnley supporters led a campaign to reinstate the claret shirts and so when football came back again after the 2nd world war, they had the kit and the nickname, the Clarets. What's more, they got their first division place back as well, winning promotion in 1947 as runners up to Manchester City. Topping off a good season, almost, they reached the FA Cup Final and a first visit to Wembley, but lost 0-1 against Charlton Athletic.

During the 1950s, Bob Lord became chairman and would stay in that position for 26 years. In that time, they won trophies. One of those was the First Division championship title in 1959/60, under the management of Harry Potts. As champions, they entered the European Cup and made it to the quarter finals, where they were beaten by Hamburg.

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They finished that season as runners up in the League to Ipswich Town and then runners up to Spurs in the FA Cup, losing 1-3 at Wembley, with future Town coach, Jimmy Robson scoring the Clarets' goal, being the 100th FA Cup Final goal.

A 3rd place finish in 1966 saw them qualify for Europe again, in the Inter Cities Fairs Cup, reaching the quarter finals and losing to Eintracht Frankfurt. But at the beginning of the next decade, they ended 24 years of top flight football by being relegated in 1970/71. They came back as 2nd division champions in 73, but went back down again in 76.

They did win the prestigious Anglo Scottish Cup in 1978/79, though the only Scottish club they faced were Celtic, who they beat 3-1 on aggregate in the quarter finals. They followed that by beating Mansfield Town in the semis and then Oldham Athletic 4-2 on aggregate in the Final.

It didn't lead to greater things though and they were relegated to the 3rd division for the first time in 1980. Bob Lord decided to retire and things improved slightly. They went up as 3rd division champions in 1982, but came straight back down again.

Things did get worse. And worse. They were relegated to the 4th division in 1985. By the end of the 86/87 season, they were bottom of the 4th div as the last round of matches got underway. Promotion and relegation between the League and the newly formed Conference had just been introduced and Burnley needed to beat Orient at Turf Moor, whilst either Torquay or Lincoln had to lose. Luckily for them, they did win 2-1 and Lincoln lost, so it was the Imps who went down.

They celebrated survival by making it to Wembley in the EFL PaintPotPizza Windscreens Trophy Final in 1988, losing 2-0 to Wolves. Things were getting better and they made the Play Offs in 1991, losing to Torquay in the semis, but then won the 4th division title in the next year. That triumph made them the second team to have won all four divisional titles, with Wolves being the first and Preston, Sheffield Utd and Portsmouth having achieved it since.

Jimmy Mullen was the manager now and he had them up again in 94, winning the Play Offs at Wembley by beating Stockport County 2-1 with goals from David Eyres and Gary Parkinson.

Straight back down again though. Mullen was replaced by some geordie knob called Chris Waddle, who almost had them relegated again down to the 4th tier, but fortunately for the Clarets, their board had the brains to get shut of the dozy mullet bonce and get a turnip, sorry, Stan Ternent in to replace him. Stan was the man and he got them back up to the 2nd tier in 2000, with Burnley born, ex Town striker Andy Payton finishing as top scorer.

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Burnley, like Town and a load of other clubs, were hit hard by the collapse of ITV Digital and so struggled to compete financially. However, they managed to stay in the, by now named, Championship and reached the Play Offs in 2009, under the management of Owen Coyle. After beating Reading in the semis, they faced Sheffield Utd at Wembley and won 1-0 with a goal from Wade Elliott and so that meant a return to the top flight after an absence of 33 years.

It was just for one season though. Coyle was poached by local rivals Bolton Wanderers and he was replaced by former player and ex Town full back, Brian Laws, who oversaw the relegation. Laws left to be replaced by Eddie Howe. He got homesick for Bournemouth and left to be replaced in October 2012 by ex Watford boss, Sean Dyche.

Despite being the bookies favourites for the drop, Dyche got them back into the Prima Donna League by finishing the 2013/14 season as runners up to Leicester. Straight back down and straight back up again, winning the Championship title in 2016. And despite being such a tin pot outfit, they have managed to stay in the PL ever since, even qualifying for Europe for the first time since the 60s. That was for the 2018/19 Europa League, but they didn't get past the qualification rounds.

It could be a return to the Championship at the end of this season as they have been in the bottom 3 for ages now, but I'm sure we all wish them luck in avoiding relegation, if they can catch and send down Leeds Urinals instead. Big Grin


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Head to Head

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Burnley lead the head to head with 33 wins to Town's 27, with 14 draws.

It's 4 Burnley wins to 2 for Town in the FA Cup.

This is the 7th time that the two clubs have been drawn to play each other, the first one being as long ago as 1915. That was for a 1st round match, but as it was played in January, it's the equivalent of what is now the 3rd round. Burnley were a 1st division team then, finishing that season in 4th. They were also the Cup holders, having won it in the previous season. Town were in the 2nd and it was the first division team who came out on top, winning 3-1 at Turf Moor. Fred Fayers scored our goal, who I've written about before. He was a Quaker and became a conscientious objector during the war.

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The second FA Cup meeting came at the same stage in 1922. It was played on the 7th of January in Burnley, so one hundred years and a day before this match is played. That game ended in a draw between two first division clubs. Burnley had won the league a couple of years before and Town would win it in a couple of years time. We did go on to win the Cup though, with this draw at Turf Moor being the first game along the way. Ernie Islip and Billy Watson scored the goals in a 2-2 scoreline, with two goals from Clem Stephenson and one from Frank Mann winning the replay 3-2 at Leeds Road on the following Wednesday. Town then played Brighton, Blackburn, Millwall and Notts County before beating Preston in the Final.

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Burnley didn't have to wait long to get their revenge. Two seasons later in 1924 as we were on the charge to the League title, Town went to Turf Moor for a 3rd round match (5th round nowadays) and lost 0-1. The significant factor there being that Huddersfield Town were such a big draw back then that 54,775 spectators turned out for this match, a Turf Moor record that has never been beaten.

It was 33 years to the next FA Cup meeting and this time it was a whopping crowd at Leeds Road. There were 55,168 there to see 2nd division Town take on 1st division Burnley in a 5th round match. Town had beaten Sheffield Utd and Peterborough in the previous rounds and hopes were high as the Clarets arrived. Town had Bill Shankly as manager and a young Denis Law in the team, but despite Dave Hickson scoring for Town, it was Burnley who went through to the next round, winning 2-1. They lost to Aston Villa in the quarters, after a replay.

The next one came in 1964. This was at Burnley, again in the 5th round and again, Burnley won. Hopes were high again after beating Chelsea away in the previous round, but it wasn't to be as the Clarets strolled it 3-0.

And so the most recent FA Cup meeting was fifty years ago. A 3rd round match on the 15th of January 1972. It was at Turf Moor and we were the 1st division team now and they had just been relegated to the 2nd. It was a Town triumph with full back Dennis Clarke scoring the only goal of the game. We followed that with wins over Fulham and West Ham before losing to Birmingham City in the quarter finals, the last time we made it that far.

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So, we have waited 100 years to see Town win the Cup and 50 years to see us even get as far as the quarter finals. There must be some omens in there about playing Burnley at this stage of the competition and going on to have a good run. Surely, we'll give it a decent go this time. Surely! Blush

As for the league. We played four times in the Premier League, without winning any. There were three draws, both 0-0 in the first season. The legend, Christopher Schindler scored in a 1-1 draw at Turf Moor in 2018/19, but then got sent off in the return match at the JSS. Steve Mounié had given us the lead in that match, only for that bloody Chris Wood getting his customary goal against us before Ashley Barnes got the Burnley winner.

We haven't beaten them for the last 7 games, the last win being in 2013/14 at the McAlpharm, a 2-1 win with Oliver Norwood and a James Vaughan penalty giving us a two goal lead before Danny Ings pulled back a late consolation. Our last win at their place was the season before when it was Vaughaney again in a 1-0 win.


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Town's FA Cup record: Here's a quick look at our glorious history in this fine competition. And how we've been not so glorious of late. Blush

1920: Runners up
1922: Winners
1928: Runners up
1929: Semi final
1930: Runners up
1932: Quarter final
1938: Runners up
1939: Semi final
1955: Quarter final
1972: Quarter final

2021: R3 - Town 2-3 Plymouth

2020: R3 - Southampton 2-0 Town

2019: R3 - Bristol City 1-0 Town

2018: R3 - Bolton 1-2 Town
R4 - Town 1-1 Birmingham
R4r - Birmingham 1-4 Town (aet)
R5 - Town 0-2 Man Utd

2017: R3 - Town 4-0 Port Vale
R4: - Rochdale 0-4 Town
R5: - Town 0-0 Man City
R5r - Man City 5-1 Town

2016: R3 - Town 2-2 Reading
R3r Reading 5-2 Town


What about Burnley then?

1898: Quarter final
1909: Quarter final
1911: Quarter final
1913: Semi final
1914: Winners
1924: Semi final
1933: Quarter final
1935: Semi final
1952: Quarter final
1957: Quarter final
1959: Quarter final
1960: Quarter final
1961: Semi final
1962: Runners up
1964: Quarter final
1983: Quarter final
2003: Quarter final

2021: R3 - Burnley 1-1 MK Dons (aet Burnley won on pens)
R4 - Fulham 0-3 Burnley
R5 - Burnley 0-2 Bournemouth

2020: R3 - Burnley 4-2 Peterborough
R4 - Burnley 1-2 Norwich

2019: R3 - Burnley 1-0 Barnsley
R4 - Man City 5-0 Burnley

2018: R3 - Man City 4-1 Burnley

2017: R3 - Sunderland 0-0 Burnley
R3r - Burnley 2-0 Sunderland
R4 - Burnley 2-0 Bristol City
R5 - Burnley 0-1 Lincoln City

2016: R3 - Middlesbrough 1-2 Burnley
R4 - Arsenal 2-1 Burnley


I've only put all this down so I could remind everybody how Danny Cowley took his non league Lincoln City to Turf Moor and beat Premier League Burnley in 2017.  Cool





So what's going on down Harry Potts Way? Managed nowadays by Sean Dyche, the former Chesterfield centre back.

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He played the majority of his career for the Spireites and played in one of their most famous matches and scored in it as well. That was the FA Cup semi final draw with Middlesbrough in 1997, when they were cheated out of the win by the lack of goal line technology. Later in his career he won promotions with Bristol City, Millwall and Northampton Town.

When he hung his boots up, he returned to one of his old clubs, Watford, as a coach, then later became manager there. He was the first manager sacked by the Pozzo family in 2012. He got the job at Burnley soon after and they still have him there, almost ten years into the job.



Last week's line up in the pathetic surrender at the Big Yellow Skip of Beeston against Bielsabub's Bums:

13 Wayne Hennessey - 100 caps for Wales but can't get in ahead of Danny Ward now.
2 Matthew Lowton - Ex Sheff Utd, missed a pen in the 2012 shoot out against us.
5 James Tarkowski - Centre back with 2 England caps
6 Ben Mee - Club captain with well over 300 Burnley games.
3 Charlie Taylor - Ex Leeds and Bradford left back.
11 Dwight McNeil - 22 year old winger with over 100 apps for the club.
18 Ashley Westwood - Ex Crewe and Villa midfielder.
4 Jack Cork - Midfielder with one England cap.
7 Jóhann Berg Guðmundsson - Icelandic winger, ex Charlton.
17 Aaron Lennon - Really? Thought he'd retired years ago!
9 Chris Wood - Lanky streak of piss who always scores against us.

Subs:
16 Dale Stephens - Bloody hell, is he still playing? How old are this lot!
19 Jay Rodriguez - Another ancient one, bookending his career with his home town club.
20 Ice Cream Cornet - French born Ivory Coast international winger. Top scorer.
22 Nathan Collins- Irish centre back signed from Stoke.
23 Erik Pieters - Another from Stoke and another ancient one.
25 Will Norris - 3rd choice keeper, will probably play in this one.
26 Phil Bardsley - Another old codger from Stoke.
27 Matěj Vydra - Another who usually scores against us.
28 Kevin Long - Been there 13 years but hasn't played much.


Club connections: Mick Buxton is still regarded by many fans as the best manager we've ever had, well in living memory anyway, don't think many of us saw Herbert Chapman and his merry men. Anyway, he started his career at Burnley in the early 60s, at a time when they had a team at the top of the Football League and winning trophies and reaching Cup Finals. He was a full back, but because of the strength of the first team, he was mainly a reserve player, so by the time he left for Halifax Town in 1968, he had only 19 first team appearances.

His time at Halifax wasn't great and he broke his leg twice, but he did help the Shaymen get promoted to the 3rd division in his first season there. He was forced to retire through injury at the age of 28 and was offered a coaching role at the Shay. He coached also at Watford, Mansfield, Barnsley and Southend and luckily for us, he never really settled that far down south. He'd kept on his Barnsley home, which as far as I know, he still has, and so when Tom Johnston offered him a job at Huddersfield, he jumped at the chance.

His first impression of the set up at Leeds Road wasn't good and so when Tom retired soon after, Mick set about a new regime, sweeping away the bad influences. One of them being a former player who I know, who said he thought Buxton treated him unfairly by not giving him a chance, but ultimately, it worked.

Form turned around immediately and we went from our lowest ever placing of 91st out of 92 clubs when he was given the caretaker role, to the 4th Division Champions within 18 months. It wasn't just the success though, it was the style of play. Even though it was the 4th division, the exciting attacking football was a joy to watch and the fact that the team scored 101 league goals in 79/80 shows what a great side it was.

The next season almost saw another promotion, finishing 4th when only the top 3 went up. The following season was a bit of an anti climax, but that wasn't the case in the next season when Buxton's Boys won promotion to the 2nd division, in what was the last time Town won automatic promotion.

He left in 1986, harshly sacked after a poor first half of the season. But he came back again in the 90s as assistant to Ian Ross, after he'd been manager at Scunthorpe. It wasn't a long stay as he and Ross resigned to be replaced by Neil Warnock. Mick then ended up managing Sunderland at Roker Park in the 2nd division, before going back to Scunthorpe.

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One of the men brought in by Buxton was his old Burnley team mate, Jimmy Robson. His initial job was coaching the young ones and he helped bring through the likes of Mark Lillis, Simon Trevitt and Peter Butler.

Before all this though, he was a star striker for the Clarets, an inside forward as was known back then. He signed on at Burnley as a 17 year old in 1956 and stayed there for nine years, making 242 appearances and scoring 100 goals. The highlight of his time there obviously was winning the League title with them in 1959/60, scoring 18 goals in that season. His goals contributed vital winners in games against Chelsea and Blackburn Rovers, but in one game he scored five, an 8-0 win over Nottingham Forest.

A couple of seasons later, he was playing for Burnley in the FA Cup Final against Spurs at Wembley. Jimmy Greaves gave Spurs an early lead, but it was Robson who got the equaliser for the Clarets just after half time. They weren't level long though as Bobby Smith put Spurs back in front and then Danny Blanchflower completed the scoring and Spurs retained the Cup. Robson's goal, as mentioned in the History section, was the 100th goal scored in the FA Cup Finals.

He left Turf Moor in 1965 and went to Blackpool, then Barnsley and then Bury. After retirement, he returned to Burnley on their coaching set up, which eventually led him to Leeds Road in 1978. He was from the Durham and at the time, West Yorkshire Police were questioning men with north eastern accents in their hunt for the Yorkshire Ripper and Town's coach recalled in an interview a few years ago how he was stopped for questioning. As we all know, it wasn't him.

After Buxton left, Robson stayed on and also coached for Steve Smith and Malcolm McDonald, and had one match as caretaker manager before McDonald was appointed. When Eoin Hand took over, he let Jimmy go and he ended up coaching alongside former Town player David Sutton at Rochdale and then back at Burnley for Stan Ternent.

Sadly, Jimmy developed the dreaded Alzheimer's disease and died last month on December the 14th 2021, aged 82.

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And another Burnley striker brought to Huddersfield by Mick Buxton was Steve Kindon. For those who don't remember him, he was built like a tank, a bit like Laurent Depoitre and just as intimidating to opposition defenders. Having met him at a celebrity cricket match, he was nowt like that in real life, a real gentle giant.

He played over 100 games for Burnley and scored 28 goals between 1968 and 1972, before he moved on to Wolves. He scored 28 for them as well, but then went back to Burnley, who were sliding down the league ladder. Town were in the 4th division and it took a lot of persuading for Buxton to tempt him down another rung of that ladder. He invited him to come to Leeds Road to watch one of the games from the Director's Box, but Kindon went and stood on the terrace with the fans and was impressed not only with the team, who won 5-1 against Rochdale on the night, but with the fans who he would come to love and who would adore him.

After the match, Kindon went over to the main stand to meet Buxton and asked, if he still wanted him to sign. He had the contract in his hand immediately and he made his debut five days later on Boxing Day against Halifax Town. He scored 37 goals for us, including a hat trick at Exeter and a dramatic late double to earn a draw at Sheffield Utd.

His last goal was in a win away at Reading and then he missed the rest of the 1981/82 season with a knee injury. As the season drew to a close, he came on to the pitch at the last home match and announced his retirement because of that injury, in front of an emotional Cowshed. He stayed on though, as Commercial Director, for a few years, a sort of similar role to the ones that Andy Booth and Michael Hefele now have.

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Bob Kelly, like Jimmy Robson, was a striker in the Burnley team that won the Football League. Not the 1960 team though, he was in the side that won the league in 1920/21. He was an inside forward, who signed for them from St Helens Town in 1913 and established himself in the side after the war. He became a prolific goal scorer and scored four goals in one match of that title winning season, in a 7-1 win against Oldham. He also made his England debut and scored twice in a 5-4 win against Scotland at Hillsborough.

By December 1925, he'd scored 91 goals for the Clarets and big spending Sunderland came and spent a British record transfer fee to take him to Roker Park. That was a massive £6,500, but he didn't stay there long as the Champions of England, the thrice champions Huddersfield Town came calling and he signed on at Leeds Road for manager Jack Chaplin, in February 1927.

His first Town goals came in the form of a hat trick as he scored three at Leeds Road in a 4-3 victory over Sheffield Wendy. He scored another hat trick in the next season as the bright blue n white beat Cardiff City 8-2 at Leeds Road, in what was then a record score. He never added to his League title medals though, Town finishing both those seasons as runners up. He also picked up an FA Cup runners up medal when we got beaten by Blackburn Rovers at Wembley.

Later on in that season he won his 14th and final England cap, again against Scotland. He scored as well, but it was a last minute consolation as the Scots famously won 5-1 with his Town team mate Alex Jackson, getting a hat trick.

In the next season, he scored the opener against Burnley as Town smashed them 7-1 and did the same in the season after as Town beat the Clarets 3-0. And then, having scored three in the record win against Cardiff, he scored one in the new record score in 1930 as Town beat Blackpool 10-1. He also got his second FA Cup runners up medal with the Town in 1930, when we got beaten by Arsenal at Wembley.

And it was against the Gunners that he got his final Town goal, his 42nd, which has him in joint 38th in our all time goal scoring chart, level with Ronnie Jepson and Lee Novak. That last goal, against Arsenal was in a 1-2 defeat at Leeds Road, in front of a crowd of 13,370. Now that's quite a low crowd considering that just ten weeks earlier, in an FA Cup match against the same opponent, the Leeds Road attendance record was set when 67,037 people passed through the turnstiles (legend has it that there were 10,000 locked out), such was the popularity of this great old English football competition back then. I bet there aren't a tenth of that many people watching this FA Cup match now.

Anyway, after us he went to Preston, then managed Carlisle, then Stockport (winning the Div 3N title). After the war, he coached in Portugal, Switzerland, the Channel Islands and Wales. He died in Fylde, aged 75, in 1969.

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Stan Ternent managed both clubs. As a player, he started his career at Turf Moor making just five appearances before spending the majority of his career at Carlisle, being part of the squad that won promotion to the First Division in 1974. He then left for Sunderland and started his coaching career. Bob Stokoe had been his boss at Carlisle and later in his early coaching days, became Stokoe's assistant at Blackpool. When Stokoe left, Stan became manager, but not for long, becoming their shortest ever managerial reign.

A couple of seasons at Hull, then a couple of promotions with Bury (4th div to 2nd div in 2 seasons), before dropping down a rung on the league ladder in 1998 to manage 3rd division Burnley. He had six seasons there, getting them promoted in his second season.

He then had a spell as manager of Gillingham and then an assistant's role with Derby and Paul Jewell. He was then tempted away from Jewell by the prospect of managing Huddersfield Town. He brought Ronnie Jepson in as his number 2, but despite Ronnie being a Town legend, the pair of them were sacked by incoming Chairman, Dean Hoyle, for being really crap.

Andy Payton played 52 times and scored 20 goals for us and then went to Burnley in exchange for Paul Barnes and scored 80 times for the Clarets in 176 games. Barnes scored 31 times in 65 games for Burnley, but the exchange deal didn't work in our favour as he only scored twice in 35 matches.




Burnley in popular culture: The 1961 film Whistle Down the Wind, the tv series' Hetty Wainthropp Investigates and Juliet Bravo were all filmed in Burnley. I've never seen the wind whistling film. I watched the first episode on Hetty and didn't bother with the rest, but I did watch Juliet quite a lot. Don't know why though, can't remember it ever being any good. Do you have any recollections of any of these?

The anarcho-communist political, punk rock, pop, and folk band, Chumbawamba are from Burnley. I never knew that. I always thought they were from Leeds. Well, I wasn't totally wrong. By the time they had their first and biggest hit with Tubthumping (I Get Knocked Down), they were living there. They had been living in a squat in Armley and were regulars at the famous Fforde Green pub.


There's loads of actors from Burnley, most of who have been in Coronation Street at some time or another. Most famous of those would be Norris, played by Malcolm Hebden. Tickety boo!

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One of the greatest ever English cricketers came from Burnley. I speak of course, of Betty Snowball who scored 189 runs in 222 minutes playing against New Zealand at Christchurch in February 1935. She played in the first ever Women's Test Match, against Australia in Brisbane in 1934 and played ten tests in all, either side of the war, in an era when there wasn't much women's cricket about. There was also some bloke called James Anderson who came from Burnley as well. He also played a few games for England.

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'ow to get theere an' wheere to sup: The post code for sat nav is BB10 4BN. That's for the Cricket Club, which is right next door to the ground and serves as a car park for away fans. There's also a private car park 400 yards away on Doris Street, off Belvedere Road.

The bar is usually open at the Cricket Club and away fans are all welcome in there. A bit further from the ground, a 15 minute walk away, is the Queen Victoria, which is a Brewer's Fayre, right next to the Premier Inn.

There are two railway stations, Burnley Central and Burnley Manchester Road and they are both around a 20 minute walk from the ground.


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Recent form - last 6 matches:

Blackburn 0-0 Town
Forest 0-1 Town
Town 3-2 Blackpool
Bristol C 2-3 Town
Town 1-1 Coventry
Barnsley 1-1 Town

Leeds 3-1 Burnley
Man Utd 3-1 Burnley
Burnley 0-0 West Ham
Newcastle 1-0 Burnley
Wolves 0-0 Burnley
Burnley 3-3 Palace

Town are 6th in the Championship with 40 points. Burnley are 18th in the Prima Donna League with 11 points.


Leading scorers:

Terriers:
Danny Ward (7)
Danel Sinani (3)
Matty Pearson (3)
Sorba Thomas (3)
Duane Holmes (3)

Clarets:
Maxwel Cornet (6)
Jay Rodriguez (4)
Chris Wood (3)



January the 8th down the ages: How did we get on in previous matches played on this date?

1910: Gainsborough Trinity (h) Midland League, WON 4-1 (Joe Jee 2, Jack Foster, WE Smith)
1916: Grimsby Town (a) Wartime League, WON 1-0 (Frank Mann)
1921: Brentford (a) FA Cup, WON 2-1 (Ernie Islip, William Wright)
1927: Millwall (a) FA Cup, lost 1-3 (George Brown)
1938: Hull City (h) FA Cup, WON 3-1 (Pat Beasley, Alf Lythgoe 2)
1944: Bradford Park Avenue (h) Wartime League, lost 1-2 (Jimmy Glazzard)
1949: Queens Park Rangers (a) FA Cup, drew 0-0 (aet)
1955: Coventry City (h) FA Cup, drew 3-3 (Jimmy Glazzard 2, Jimmy Watson)
1958: Charlton Athletic (a) FA Cup, lost 0-1
1966: Southampton (h) Div 2, WON 2-0 (Alan Gilliver 2)
1972: Chelsea (a) Div 1, drew 2-2 (Les Chapman, Steve Smith)
1977: AFC Bournemouth (a) Div 4, lost 0-1
1983: Chelsea (h) FA Cup, drew 1-1 (Brian Stanton)
2002: Hull City (a) LDV Vans Trophy, WON 1-0 (Andy Booth)
2005: Torquay Utd (h) League One (3rd tier), drew 1-1 (Efe Sodje)
2011: Dover Athletic (h) FA Cup, WON 2-0 (Scott Arfield, Gary Roberts)

Played 16, WON 7, drew 5, lost 4.

Jack Foster, who scored on this date in 1910, had earlier scored 4 in our record FA Cup victory when we beat Heckmondwike 11-0. He finished that Cup campaign with 11 goals, which is a club record for a single season. He was at the back end of his career though and when Town got voted in to the Football League at the end of that season, he got a job as a chimney sweep and played football for Castleford. Later on, he came back to Town as a trainer, then a similar role at Bradford City.

For the 1955 FA Cup drawn game with Coventry, we were in Division One, they were in Division Three (South). That was a bit of an upset, but we won the replay and almost made it to the semi finals later that season. After beating Torquay and Liverpool, our brave lads were seconds away from the semis when Newcastle equalised and then won the replay.

The 1958 Cup defeat at Charlton was a 3rd round replay. We had drawn at Leeds Road on the Saturday, but the really famous match between the two clubs had taken place a fortnight earlier. That, of course, was when we lost 6-7 down at The Valley. Still the only team to have scored six goals away from home in a Football League match and lost. Only Huddersfield Town could do that!

The LDV Vans game in 2002 was at the area semi final stage. Having beaten Halifax, Wrexham, Scunthorpe and now Hull, we went on to lose the area final against Blackpool and so missed out on a trip to Wembley.

Efe Sodje, who scored in 2005, was club captain when we beat Mansfield in the 2004 Play Off Final. By the time we were receiving the trophy, he was in an ambulance on his way to Cardiff A&E with a head injury. That's why Jacko and Boothy both lifted the trophy together instead of the skipper.

Scott Arfield, who scored in the massive Cup win over Dover in 2011, is another club connection we have with Burnley. He came to us as a Scottish u21 international. By the time he left Burnley he was a full Canadian international. Huh


Burnley Anagrams: Some football related, some not.
  1. Rich Woods 
  2. Ten Windows Withheld 
  3. Cheesy Dan 
  4. Dougy Zaire Jr 
  5. Abba cum Wham 
  6. Tanner Tents 
  7. Stoned Kevin 
  8. Alwyn Tom Tom 
  9. Fern Beermat 
  10. Trophy Tsar 


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  Prediction League Fixtures - Week 17
Posted by: Zinman - 03-01-2022, 22:36 - Forum: West Bromwich Albion - Replies (18)

Welcome back everyone.

Before the fixture list, after recent postponements the following have extra balls to play with:

Extra bonus ball: Baggie One, Sanjay, Amelia.
Extra score ball: Stairs, Salop, Zinman, Sanjay, Themaclad, Silver, Twerton, Lady Jane.

Please play them responsibly.

The lottery of the FA Cup this week so predictions are further complicated - who knows, Covic may force teams to put out a stronger 11 than usual!

Gamball Game:
Wigan - Blackburn

Others:
Mansfield - Middlesbrough
Hartlepool - Blackpool
Millwall - Crystal Palace
Kidderminster - Reading
Albion - Brighton
Hull - Everton
Swansea - Southampton
Charlton - Norwich
Forest - Arsenal

Scores will be taken at the end of the match before penalties (so after extra time if that is a thing this round!)

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  SPORTS PREDICTIONS 2022
Posted by: Amelia Chaffinch - 03-01-2022, 13:33 - Forum: Hibernian - No Replies

ALL WELCOME TO JOIN IN WITH OUR ANNUAL GENERAL SPORTS PREDICTIONS. 

http://www.sportsbabble.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=10928

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  SPORTS PREDICTIONS 2022
Posted by: Amelia Chaffinch - 03-01-2022, 13:33 - Forum: Chesterfield - No Replies

ALL WELCOME TO JOIN IN WITH OUR ANNUAL GENERAL SPORTS PREDICTIONS. 

http://www.sportsbabble.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=10928

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  SPORTS PREDICTIONS 2022
Posted by: Amelia Chaffinch - 03-01-2022, 13:33 - Forum: West Bromwich Albion - No Replies

ALL WELCOME TO JOIN IN WITH OUR ANNUAL GENERAL SPORTS PREDICTIONS. 

http://www.sportsbabble.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=10928

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  HTAFC Prediction League 2021/22 Matchday 24 - FA Cup
Posted by: Lord Snooty - 03-01-2022, 01:29 - Forum: Huddersfield Town - Replies (17)

2 points for a correct result
4 points for a correct score
2 points for each correct scorer
Correct joker doubles your score   Laugh    
Wrong joker result gives you minus 2
Correct Random Badger gives you 2 points Badger

The random badger Badger is used for any random prediction used once in each matchday sequence. For instance, a scorer at a particular match, the number of red cards in the matches or yellow cards or own goals or owt you want really within reason, I do need to be able to check whether it's correct or not. Please don't put stuff like....."Commentator says...."  Rolleyes
The joker  Laugh is played for one match in each sequence and if correct you get double points. So if you've predicted 1-0 and it finishes 2-0, you get 4 pts, but if you've predicted 2-0, that's 8 pts. But if you get it wrong, it's minus 2.
Jokers and badgers are optional. You don't have to play one if you don't want.


Cup games:
In the event of a draw, it's half the points if you've predicted a draw when it gets to 90 mins and the full points if it's still a draw after extra time. Half the points will be awarded for correctly predicting the winner of the match if it goes to penalties. Similarly with the badger, if your random prediction is affected by this, it'll be half the points.

Random score generator: I will be using the random score generator again for those who miss predicting, so we shouldn't get some people too far behind that after missing a couple of weeks they lose all interest, because I know it's not easy getting on here every week.
To be fair to everybody, this is going to be like, say if three people in one week miss their predictions, the first one in the table will be given all 0-0, the second one down the line will get 1-0 and the third will get 0-1 and so on, like if there's four missing the 4th will get 1-1, then 5th 2-1, 6th 1-2. and if there are so many missing, might as well pack in. Wink
And if you miss two weeks on the trot, I'll stop until you come back on again. Not doing it for half a season like I did t'other year.  Rolleyes

NEW FOR THIS SEASON: End of season Play Offs.

The one who finishes top of the league will still be champion, but after the season finishes there will be Play Offs between the top 4, with 1st v 4th and 2nd v 3rd. This will take in stuff like the EFL Play Offs, FA Cup Final, final day of Prima Donna League, European Finals etc. It will be one matchday for the semis and one for the Final. It will be the individual scores for each matchday against the allotted opponent, with some kind of tie breaker for a drawn match.
So last season's matches would've been Baggiebob(BBB) v theo_luddite and jjamez v St Charles Owl and would've given a bit more to play for towards the back end of the season.
The prize for winning will be enormous. Another rep point. Whistle

We now have an Appeals Committee set up, consisting of me, myself and I. All appeals must be made before the next Matchday kicks off.

FA Cup 3rd Round:
Saturday 8th January:

Burnley v Town (12:30)
Town scorers:
Burnley scorers:

Mansfield Town v Middlesbrough 
Bristol City v Fulham 
Coventry City v Derby County
Hartlepool United v Blackpool
Millwall v Crystal Palace
West Bromwich Albion v Brighton & Hove Albion
Hull City v Everton
Swansea City v Southampton

Sunday 9th January:
Cardiff City v Preston North End
West Ham United v Leeds United
Wolverhampton Wanderers v Sheffield United
Nottingham Forest v Arsenal

Monday 10th January:
Manchester United v Aston Villa

Championship:
Wednesday 12th January:

Barnsley OFF Stoke City


Quote:From the FA (20 Dec)

We can today confirm that replays have been removed in both the third and fourth rounds of the 2021-22 Emirates FA Cup.

This exceptional decision was approved by the FA Board on Friday 17 December and has been taken in the wider interest of English football to alleviate the possibility of fixture congestion following several postponements in recent days and continued uncertainty ahead due to COVID-19.

Ties in the third and fourth rounds of this season’s competition will be played to a finish on the day, with extra-time and penalty shootouts if required.

Replays will return up to and including the fourth round of the Emirates FA Cup from the 2022-23 season onwards.

Table after Matchday 23:
  1. Baggiebob(BBB) = 559 pts
  2. jjamez = 503 pts
  3. theo_luddite = 495 pts
  4. Lord Snooty = 483 pts
  5. St Charles Owl = 479 pts
  6. neonfoxinthebox = 474 pts
  7. themaclad = 469 pts
  8. SHEP_HTAFC = 438 pts
  9. WakeyTerrier = 420 pts
  10. ritchiebaby = 405 pts
  11. Amelia Chaffinch = 375 pts

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  SPORTS PREDICTIONS 2022
Posted by: Amelia Chaffinch - 02-01-2022, 21:06 - Forum: Huddersfield Town - Replies (103)

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GENERAL SPORTS PREDICTIONS 2022

JANUARY

Masters Snooker Champion

Australian Open Tennis Men's Champion

Australian Open Tennis Women's Champion

African Cup of Nations Winners

FEBRUARY

RU 6 Nations Winners

Superbowl Winners

EFL Carabooboo Cup

MARCH

F1 starts ... who will lift the trophy at the end of the year?

APRIL

Masters Golf Winner

World Snooker Champion

Boat Race winners

MAY

French Open Tennis Men's Champion

French Open Tennis Women's Champion

Women's FA Cup winners

Men's FA Cup winners

Scottish Cup winners

Champion's League winners


JUNE

Wimbledon Tennis Men's Champion

Wimbledon Tennis Women's Champion

JULY

Tour de France winner

The Open golf champion


AUGUST

US Open tennis men's champion

US Open tennis women's champion

SEPTEMBER

Ryder Cup golf winners

OCTOBER

RL Super League winners

RL World Cup winners


NOVEMBER

Davis Cup tennis winners


DECEMBER

UK Snooker champion

FIFA World Cup winners
TIE BREAK - HOW MANY GOLD, SILVER AND BRONZE MEDALS WILL GB WIN IN TOTAL AT THE WINTER OLYMPICS?

SUBMIT ENTRIES BY 9th JANUARY PLEASE 


Changes can be made up to the start of any event, just let us know if you do.

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  Stoke City v Preston North End Bet 365 Stadium 3/1/2022
Posted by: themaclad - 02-01-2022, 09:39 - Forum: Preston North End - Replies (3)

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The Bet365 Stadium (stylised as bet365 Stadium) is an all-seater football stadium in Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England and the home of EFL Championship club Stoke City. The stadium was previously called the Britannia Stadium but was renamed on 1 June 2016 when the club entered into a new stadium-naming-rights agreement with its parent company, Bet365.[4] It has a capacity of 30,089 following the completion of expansion works in 2017.[5][6]

The stadium was built in 1998 at a cost of £14.8 million as a replacement for the Victoria Ground. Former player Sir Stanley Matthews' ashes were buried beneath the centre circle of the pitch following his death in February 2000; he had officially opened the stadium on 30 August 1997.[7] In European competitions it is known as the Stoke Ground due to UEFA regulations on sponsorships.[8][9]The all-seater stadium cost nearly £15 million to build and brought the club up to standards with the Taylor Report of January 1990 to end 115 years at the Victoria Ground. Along with the possibility of converting the Victoria Ground into an all-seater stadium, relocation was being considered by 1995 and by early 1996 the decision to build a new stadium elsewhere had been confirmed.[10]

Construction of the stadium was underway during the 1996-97 season.[11] In August 1997 it opened its doors for the first time as the Britannia Stadium thanks to a £1 million, 10-year sponsorship deal with the Britannia Building Society which was instrumental in the overall funding of the project. Another £4.5 million was given as a grant by the Football Trust.[11]

The stadium's opening did not go according to plan, as from the outset there was concern about getting there, as the plans covered only one access road from the nearby A50, and as a result, spectators arriving from the city or the motorway had to travel up the A50 for over a mile to a roundabout at Sideway and double-back the other way, which caused huge congestion.[10] The stadium was officially opened by club legend Sir Stanley Matthews, then aged 82. After he died in March 2000, his ashes were buried beneath the stadium's centre circle and a statue showing different stages of his career was put up in his honour outside the ground.[12] On 27 August 1997, Rochdale were the visitors for the historic first-ever competitive match a 1–1 draw in the League Cup watched by 15,439 – and four days later the first-ever league game took place against Swindon Town before a crowd of 23,859.[11] The first season at the new ground was a bad one as Stoke were relegated from the First Division, losing 5–2 at home to Manchester City on the final day of the season, with the visiting side also going down after the relegation-threatened sides above them all won their final games.

The club's supporters protested against chairman Peter Coates, who stood down afterwards, only to return in 2006.[11]

Four seasons of third-tier football followed with Gunnar Gíslason taking control of the club in November 1999.[10] In May 2006 he sold control of the club back to Peter Coates, and soon after the club obtained full ownership of the stadium in a deal worth £6 million following the previous joint-partnership with the Stoke-on-Trent City Council and Stoke-on-Trent Regeneration Ltd.[13] The name of the ground was changed to the Bet365 Stadium in June 2016.[14]

MANAGER
MICHAEL O'NEILL

O'Neill retired from playing football in 2004 and began a career in financial services.[10] A year later he took a part-time role as assistant manager at Cowdenbeath, working with Mixu Paatelainen.[10]

Brechin City
O'Neill became manager of Scottish side Brechin City in April 2006. He won the Second Division Manager of the Month award in both December 2007[15] and October 2008.[16] O'Neill was released by Brechin City to join Shamrock Rovers on 13 December 2008.[17]

Shamrock Rovers
At the press conference when unveiled as Rovers manager, he cited Gordon Strachan as his main managerial influence.[18] He was awarded the Irish Soccer Writers Manager of the Month award for July 2009 and eventually guided The Hoops to second place in the 2009 League of Ireland.

In October 2010, he guided Shamrock Rovers to win the 2010 League of Ireland title, their first league championship since 1994.[19] O'Neill led Rovers to the 2011 Setanta Sports Cup and then made history by being the first manager of a League of Ireland team to reach the group stages of a European competition.[20] Rovers defeated Partizan Belgrade in the play-off round of the 2011–12 UEFA Europa League.[20] Shamrock Rovers retained their league title in the 2011 season.[21][22] New contract talks between O'Neill and Shamrock Rovers stalled[23] and he left the club in December 2011.[24] O'Neill won the Soccer Writers Association Personality of the Year award for 2011.[25]

Northern Ireland
O'Neill was appointed manager of Northern Ireland on 28 December 2011, with one report stating he was "the first Catholic in 50 years to manage Northern Ireland".[5][26][2] However, this is almost certainly untrue, since previous managers Lawrie Sanchez (2004–07) and Lawrie McMenemy (1998–99) were both educated in Roman Catholic schools.[27][28] O'Neill's first game in charge ended in defeat with a 3–0 loss to Norway.[29] In his next game an inexperienced Northern Ireland team were beaten 6–0 by the Netherlands in Amsterdam.[30] During their 2014 FIFA World Cup qualification, Northern Ireland earned some creditable results, including a 1–1 draw away to Portugal and a 1–0 home win against Russia.[31]

In November 2013, O'Neill agreed a new two-year deal with Irish Football Association to remain as Northern Ireland manager.[32]

Northern Ireland qualified for their first ever European Championship, Euro 2016 in France after beating Greece 3–1 at Windsor Park on 8 October 2015.[33] It was the first time in 30 years that Northern Ireland had qualified for a major tournament. At the tournament itself he led the side to the second round, losing narrowly to Wales[34] but recorded a surprise victory over Ukraine in the group stages.[35]

In January 2018, O'Neill turned down an offer to become manager of Scotland following discussions with the Scottish Football Association.[36]

O'Neill initially continued as Northern Ireland manager after his appointment by Stoke City in November 2019.[37] He had intended to stay on for UEFA Euro 2020 playoffs, which had been scheduled for March 2020, but these were postponed by the COVID-19 pandemic.[38] With the Euro 2020 playoffs delayed at least until the autumn of 2020, O'Neill resigned as Northern Ireland manager on 22 April.[38]

Stoke City
O'Neill was appointed manager of EFL Championship club Stoke City on 8 November 2019.[37] He joined Stoke with the side bottom of the 2019–20 EFL Championship table after struggling under the management of Nathan Jones.[39] O'Neill won his first match in charge of Stoke, 4–2 away at Barnsley on 9 November.[40] Stoke began to improve and secured vital victories over Wigan Athletic, Luton Town, Sheffield Wednesday and Huddersfield Town, helping the team move out of the relegation zone at the turn of the year.[41] In the January transfer window O'Neill cancelled the loans of Cameron Carter-Vickers, Mark Duffy and Scott Hogan, whilst also letting Peter Etebo, Badou Ndiaye and Ryan Woods leave on loan. Into the team came Northern Irish midfielder Jordan Thompson from Blackpool, center-back James Chester on loan from Aston Villa and young midfielder Tashan Oakley-Boothe from Tottenham Hotspur.[42] Stoke beat Hull City 5–1 on 7 March 2020 moving the team three points above the drop with nine remaining matches.[43] The Championship was suspended on 13 March due to the COVID-19 pandemic.[44]

Championship squads returned to training on 25 May with the intention to finish the season behind closed doors.[45] Stoke's preparations for the season restart were disrupted after O'Neill tested positive for coronavirus on 9 June which caused a training match against Manchester United to be cancelled.[46] Stoke won four of the remaining nine matches to avoid relegation and finish in 15th position, finishing eight points clear of the relegation zone.[47]

Due to the ongoing pandemic the 2020–21 season began later in September with matches continuing to played behind closed doors. O'Neill brought in a number of free transfers including James Chester, Morgan Fox, Steven Fletcher and Mikel John Obi with Jacob Brown the only arrival to have been bought.[48] Stoke began the season well with Tyrese Campbell in decent form, winning eight of their first 16 matches and were just outside the play-off places at the beginning of December.[49] However a number of injuries to key players most notably to Tyrese Campbell saw goals dry up and the team went nine games without a win at the turn of the year.[50] Stoke were unable to put a sustained run of results together in March and April and ended the season in mid-table.[51]

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Form guide pointless as no game for three weeks

FAMOUS STOKE PERSON

Enoch Arnold Bennett
(1867 - 1931)
Enoch Arnold Bennett was born on 27 May 1867 at 90 Hope Street, Hanley. He was the son of Enoch Bennett, a Burslem man who was at the time a pawnbroker, seeking to improve his station in the pursuit of a career in law (which he subsequently attained). He was the husband of Sarah Longson, a daughter of a Derbyshire family.

Arnold Bennett was the eldest of six surviving children. From the time Arnold was eight years old, the family changed residences from Dale Hall, Burslem to Middleport and eventually settled in a newly built house at 205 Waterloo Road, Burslem.

Bennett was educated at Swan Bank Wesleyan Chapel, Burslem, the Endowed school at the Wedgwood Institute in Queen Street and the Orme Middle School which was to become Wolstanton Grammar School.

Upon leaving school it was intended that Bennett should become a lawyer but already he had experienced the stirrings for journalism, social correspondence and short-story writing. In 1889 he left the Potteries for good to make his home in the capital where for a time he worked as a solicitors clerk. By 1893 he had become a journalist and within three years he was the editor of the London periodical Woman.

Bennett`s first novel, "A Man From The North", was published in 1898 and foretold the writer's exploration of environmental biography which resulted in the creation of his fictional town Bursley. His written works contained lightly concealed descriptions of Burslem, forming a fictional gazetteer of this important Potteries town.

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  2022 World Junior Championships
Posted by: ritchiebaby - 02-01-2022, 00:51 - Forum: Winter sports - Replies (5)

These B Curling Championships will take place from Monday 3 January until Wednesday 12 January and is open to junior teams from all World Curling Federation Member Associations that have not already qualified for the World Junior Curling Championships. The top three women’s and men’s teams will qualify from this event to the World Junior Curling Championships.

The Men's Teams are from Austria, Brazil, Chinese Taipei, Czech Republic, Denmark, England, France, Hong Kong, Hungary, Italy, Japan, Kazakhstan, Korea, Latvia, Netherlands, Norway, Slovenia, Spain and Turkey, and play from 3 January to 6 January in the Round-robin. Their Quarter-finals and Semi-finals are due to be played on 7 January with the Finals on 8 January.

England Men
4 : Jotham SUGDEN (Skip)
3 : Felix WHITTICASE (Vice-Skip)
2 : Archer WOODS
1 : Harry PINNELL

According the WCF website, England are not in any of the 3 Groups, but Chinese Taipei are in Groups A and B and Hong Kong are in Groups B and C. I had hoped that the playing schedule would yield a clue as to the Groups, but England are playing 4 of the 5 teams in Group C, except for Kazakhstan, so that doesn't really help. Add in the fact that Chinese Taipei are due to play Netherlands 3 times (twice in the same session!) and Denmark are playing 2 teams at the same time, which doesn't fill me with confidence as to the accuracy of the draw. It's an absolute bloody shambles.  Angry

Women's Teams representing Austria, Brazil, Croatia, Czech Republic, England, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Kazakhstan, Latvia, Netherlands, Norway, Scotland, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Turkey and United States compete in 3 Groups. They play from 10 January to 12 January in the Round-robin, followed by their Quarter-finals and Semi-finals on 13 January and Finals on 14 January.

England Women
4 : Sydney BOYD (Skip)
3 : Annabelle MARTIN (Vice-Skip)
2 : Mia ANDELL
1 : Anna HOWEY
A : Libby DAVIES

Scotland Women
4 : Fay HENDERSON (Skip)
3 : Katie McMILLAN
2 : Lisa DAVIE (Vice-Skip)
1 : Holly WILKIE-MILNE
A : Robyn MITCHELL

The Women's Draw and Groups do seem to make sense with both England and Scotland in Group B.

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