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Match Thread - Middlesbrough v SWFC
CC was outthought with his starting 11, simple fact , when we attack we look as good as anyone, we need to go for it from the start Towin, and the rotation system has it's merits , but not when the squad is as thin as ours, play the best 11 from the start and adjust accordingly, especially away from home , we could have had 3 points today because the are no better than us , and upfront I would say we were better than them, the 2nd half shows that , we pushed them back and had chances to equalize, if that had have been from the 1st minute I feel we could have got 3 points today, but not slating CC , he's a better football manager than I am.
Onwards and upwards ..

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Hope you had a great awayday MS
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(28-12-2015, 21:23)Was Wereham Owl Wrote: CC was outthought with his starting 11, simple fact , when we attack we look as good as anyone, we need to go for it from the start Towin,  and the rotation system has it's merits , but not when the squad is as thin as ours, play the best 11 from the start and adjust accordingly, especially away from home , we could have had 3 points today because the are no better than us , and upfront I would say we were better than them, the 2nd half shows that , we pushed them back and had chances to equalize, if that had have been from the 1st minute I feel we could have got 3 points today, but not slating CC , he's a better football manager than I am.
Onwards and upwards ..

WAWAW

Hope you had a great awayday MS

Completely agree, as you say rotation has its benefits but when arguably our best midfield player is playing in defence due to injuries we have to go with as good as we have in midfield and up front.  I can understand putting 5 in midfield but it has to be the right 5.  As regards resting players such as FF or Pudil or even Wallace doesn't make sense to me.  We have three subs to play, start the best 11, change and rest as the game goes on.  After today we have no game until Saturday and then the starting 11 could have 10 days off and play the reserves against Fulham if they need a rest.  
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(28-12-2015, 21:23)Was Wereham Owl Wrote: CC was outthought with his starting 11, simple fact , when we attack we look as good as anyone, we need to go for it from the start Towin,  and the rotation system has it's merits , but not when the squad is as thin as ours, play the best 11 from the start and adjust accordingly, especially away from home , we could have had 3 points today because the are no better than us , and upfront I would say we were better than them, the 2nd half shows that , we pushed them back and had chances to equalize, if that had have been from the 1st minute I feel we could have got 3 points today, but not slating CC , he's a better football manager than I am.
Onwards and upwards ..

WAWAW

Hope you had a great awayday MS
i agree Was Wereham we do have to go for it from the start and I said earlier in the thread we should have gone out to attack them and let them worry about us and for us not to be thinking to far ahead. Take each game as it comes. The goal was from  the two numpties in the full back spots being asleep and that cost us at least a point. I wouldn't say CC was out thought thou as if the full backs were doing there job then the goal doesn't go in.. It wasn't a spectacular goal so should of been easy to defend, we defend right we are still in the game and then who knows. 
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FF & CC agreed b4 the game that he wud only play 45 mins.

Wasn't surprised he made 6 changes after his comments after the Brum game.

Disappointed we lost but it isn't the end of the world just because we lost to the now league leaders, Boro haven't conceded a goal in 7 games now.

We are in a good position, exceding expectations  I wud call it. The January  transfer  window should be interesting, do we go for promotion this season or stick with what we have and see how things pan out?
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(28-12-2015, 22:30)Owlkev71 Wrote: FF & CC agreed b4 the game that he wud only play 45 mins.

Wasn't surprised he made 6 changes after his comments after the Brum game.

Disappointed we lost but it isn't the end of the world just because we lost to the now league leaders, Boro haven't conceded a goal in 7 games now.

We are in a good position, exceding expectations  I wud call it. The January  transfer  window should be interesting, do we go for promotion this season or stick with what we have and see how things pan out?

Wasn't aware that it was agreed to leave FF off for 45 mins.  We lost this game due to some poor defending in the first minute and in the end we put in a decent performance against away at the best team the division, so we shouldn't be too disappointed.  The fact that we are shows how far we have come.

As for promotion, our best 11 will compete in every game and give us a chance to win them, but we are still a bit thin when you get past our best 14/15 players, but then we are probably no different there to any other team in the division.  I would say though, as we are right in the mix for the playoffs we have to do whatever DC/CC think is needed to push us over the line.  We have enough pieces in place to push next season with a few key additions in the summer, so why not give it a go this season first??
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IMRES NO BULLSHIT RATINGS BROUGHT TO YOU FROM SOME DRUNKEN HALF DRESSED KEYBOARD WARRIOR

WILDSMITH 4 A shocking opening 45 minutes followed up by not much better in the second half  Whistle  he looked scared to death and out of his depth  Thumb down  his kicking was awfull and could have cost us a further goal  Doh and quite frankly not ready yet to step up in Big games  Thumb down  he was not helped though by the worst defence i have seen all season infront of him loovens being the biggest culprit who left this youngster out to dry   Thumb down

PALMER 2 where to start he had it all today  Whistle  lets start from the start then  Whistle  he was asleep he got skinned they scored  Angry  game over 1 minute  Doh  after he was a complete joke for 45 minutes he got battered  Doh  and didnt play much better the second half either  Angry  he gave the ball away time and time again  Angry  his attacking crosses and throws are about as frightening as Nuhui in the 6 yard area  Doh Hes not learnt anything from last seasons mistakes and isnt good enough im afriad and wont get any better  Thumb down  he has to go goodbye  Thumb down

LOOVENS 4 A lot on here didnt see this today which makes me even more angry  Angry  Hes absalute f-ucking garbage  Thumb down  Thumb down  Thumb down  he left the team to fend for itself that was the worst captaincy i have seen since darren carthorse purse wore the band  Angry  he made mistake after mistake leaving Wildsmith exposed  Angry  he constantly hoofed the ball into orbit  Angry  hes shocking and shouldnt be given another contratc if we are seriously thinking of going up sometime in my lifetime   Thumb down

HUTCHINSON 6 Not the best of games , but when you put him next to a pile of shit like loovens and palmer he looked like booby moore  Whistle made of plastic though , and isnt a long time soloution to the centerback problem  Doh


WIGGINS 4 Complete dogshit is too kind to describe how he played today  Angry  lost not at the level of a promotion winning team  Doh not good back up for poodle and the worst thing is hes got a 3 year f -cuking contract  Doh  Doh  Doh who the f-cuk singed this muppet was it SG  Doh Wank please get injured and go away to the Vortex room  Thumb down


SEMI 4 His time has come its over for Semi he only moves like a Ray wilkings shadow these days  Doh Cheers mate your well loved  Thumb up but its time to teach the kids and help our backroom staff out  Thumb up


BAZZA Not the best of games for this lad today and his deliverys where awfull , but still held the ball like he wanted it and still moved in and out trying to unlock the Borro Bus  Doh  and wasnt helped by the fact that the chciken was clucking like mad next to him  Doh The best player at the club by a mile  Thumb up

LEE Not his day today either Chicken flu is a killer  Doh

DOGSHIT DISGRACE 1 A complete and utter timewasting, money robbing ,work swerving xxxx  Angry  Angry  Angry  Angry  Every time he gets a place in the strting 11 he tosses it off  Angry  Angry  Angry  Bazza wanted to kill the xxxx halfway through the game hes a disgrace and how he got on the field in the second half is beyond me  Doh  get rid asap we dont need the likes of this type of player anymore we have moved on  Thumb down

SOOGOOPOO Thats the first time ive seen him play and he was awfull although he did get better the second half he looks clumsy and another one of these Chicken type players that play 1 good game in 5  Doh  not working for me get rid bobbar  Thumb down

JOAO 5 Terrible first half like the rest but when forest came on he looked better  Thumb up  although this wasnt his day  

POODLE 7 Thank god weve got him  Thumb up he came on and attacked like mad and showed the rest of the lazy c-unts what they should have been doing  Thumb up

DOGPOOPOO 2 Came on and looked like he was never going to score ever again for Wednesday ! and Guess what he didnt he had a free header ( and i say free header because his opponent looked like a a f-cuking dwarf in comparison ) and he fluffed it  Doh get rid for the sake of Peiowls pace maker  Thumb up

FOREST 8 MOM Rolled his sleeves up went at them hes got the lot passion goals skill inteligence what a xxxx signing  Thumb up



CARLOS Stay of the drink on New years eve mate or you might wake up and play a team just as shit against the Fulham bus  Thumb down


Summary !! Not all that dissapointed as 3pts against Fulhams bus will be a good away victory and we will be back hovering again if Ipswich dont beat Brighton that is  Doh but it is very worrying how thin our squad is and we need to get rid of at least 5 hangers on and bring in 5 much better players !! will Dc throw the cash around again ? or will he keep it safe ? either way i dont think we will go up this year  Thumb down  and what makes next year any different ? we are so close now its untrue  Thumb up  but yet so very far away  Thumb down



Anyway Happy New year everyone   Thumb up  Thumb up  Thumb up  Thumb up  Thumb up  Thumb up Thumb up all the best to you all even that old bastard  Whistle and most of all to MS and lets spare a thought for him  Thumb up  Thumb up  Thumb up the best outcome for me next year will be his health Thumb up come on MS lad  bore the xxxx out of me with your stats forever more  Thumb up  Thumb up  Thumb up  Thumb up
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I'll read this during my  summer holidays imre. Laugh
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Im on mine now  Cool sorry all year  Whistle and it kept me away from speaking to her indoors for 25 minutes  Laugh

carlos has been smoking dutch ciggys this xmas ? hes completly oblivious to what just happened ?
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CLOSE BUT NO CIGAR

CC was close to pulling off a great smash & grab raid against the division's most durable opponents and promotion favourites. The fact that we conceded in the opening minute yet still re-grouped to put in a decent second half showing gives great credit to CC & his squad.

CC had already explained that several players had to be rested as their figures were in the red zone & that others could only play part of the match so the starting line up wasn't much of a surprise. However, he lost Hooper on the day, which meant that our formation had to change & that we would go into the match without our lucky talisman.

Before the kick off, I was concerned about Sougou offering any protection for Palmer & straight from the kick off Palmer was left exposed facing two players with little support, allowing Downing to swing the ball in perfectly to give Boro the lead.

Once we settled down, we worked our way into the match and followed the plan of keeping it tight. In fact, if we hadn't conceded the goal, the first half went according to CC's plan. The goal meant that he had to make adjustments earlier than planned. An injury to Hutchinson used up one sub but the introduction of FF was inevitable.

Gradually, we took control of the play although Bannan was below par, giving the ball away too much and his delivery from set pieces wasn't good enough. Nuhiu was our final throw of the dice although why was Helan removed when he was starting to impact positively rather than Sougou who was doing little.

One impressive aspect of the performance was the way that Loovens was talking to team mates during the game to give them little pep talks, most noticeably to Palmer, Helan & Joao. It showed the growing togetherness of the team which will serve us well in the coming months.

Boro made defensive substitutions and were content to just hold us at bay. After Nuhiu's introduction, we had our new preferred formation but without Hooper's movement, it is far less effective. We had a few half chances & scrambles in the box and overall matched the best team in the division.

Wildsmith - 6 - no chance for goal but otherwise sound
Palmer - 6 - given no protection but grew into the game
Hutchinson - 6 - did what he did effectively until his knee gave way
Loovens - 7 - good leader
Wiggins - 5 - just looks a bit short of the standard
Semedo - 5 - not good enough, particularly if we are chasing a game
Sougou - 5 - doesn't influence the game enough, doesn't track back
Lee - 5 - hardly involved
Bannan - 5 - below par, gave the ball away too much
Helan - 5 - just getting going when subbed
Joao - 6 - ended up too deep trying to find ball, better second half
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Pudil - 6 - solid job
FF - 7 - turned us from ordinary to a threat
Nuhiu - 5 - little impact, gave the ball away too much

Stat Attack:

Goals: 0

Assists: 0

Tackles: 4 - Loovens, Wiggins, Bannan, 2 - Lee, 1 - Hutchinson, Semedo, Sougou, Helan

Interceptions: 3 - Hutchinson, 2 - Palmer, Wiggins, 1 - Sougou, Joao, Pudil

Clearances: 4 - Wiggins, Joao, 3 - Loovens, 2 - Hutchinson, Semedo, Lee, 1 - Palmer

Attempts: 3 - FF, 1 - Wiggins, Bannan, Nuhiu

Attempts On Target: 1 - Bannan

Key Passes: 1 - Bannan, Joao, Pudil

Dribbles: 1 - Joao, FF

Dispossessed: 2 - Joao, 1 - Wiggins, Sougou, Helan

Bad Control: 3 - Helan, FF, 2 - Wiggins, Joao, 1 - Palmer, Sougou, Bannan, Lee, Nuhiu, Pudil

Crosses (Accurate in Brackets): 7 - Bannan (2), 3 - Sougou (0), 2 - FF (1), Helan (0), 1 - Palmer (0), Semedo (0), Lee (0)

Passing Accuracy (Total Passes in Brackets):

Hutchinson - 87% (39)
Semedo - 85% (33)
Lee - 82% (28)
Joao - 80% (25)
Pudil - 80% (20)
Loovens - 78% (51)
Wiggins - 77% (17)
Sougou - 75% (28)
Helan - 75% (20)
Palmer - 73% (45)
Bannan - 72% (54)
FF - 60% (10)
Nuhiu - 40% (5)
Wildsmith - 33% (33)

I had this game rated as our number one toughest of the season so in fact we acquitted ourselves pretty well. Just a shame that the early goal meant that we had to change our plan. Even so, we made a decent fist of it in the second half. We now face a run of fixtures that we can win and hopefully that will keep us in touch with the top six.

My main criticism since Boxing Day has been CC's obsession with it being unfair that Boro had a bigger break. While this is true, it gives the players an excuse to lose. He would have been far better not to mention it & get on with it. It didn't stop Bolton beating Blackburn did it.

Happy New Year. We go to Fulham on Saturday (hope I am well enough) and I think Bannan is suspended so that won't help us. We need to start winning away & Fulham is the place to start.
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I said when i saw The blackburn game posponed that this was very unfair and our game with Borro should have been posponed also . It was the only logical thing to do !! but we are talking about the football league arnt we ? and quite Frankly the games they have scheduled us this season have been completly mental !!Next season we had better make a plan to get knocked out straight away in the league cup !!
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