[Devongone]

Dancing mate I do think the people of Sheffield deserve a Premier League club. I agree that Wednesday, as a club, by accident and poor decision-making have got themselves where they are. Until the impossible day dawns of fan-ownership and decision-making the commitment of those who watch a team will have only a tangential impact upon what happens on the field.

The point about The Owls and other potential Premiership clubs in our geographical area is that their current playing ability isn't quite high enough to have the knock-on benefits it might have for Chesterfield. A player who would be GOOD for us would probably be in, or on the verge, of the Wednesday team. And the whole of Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire and Yorkshire, traditional football areas, currently lack a single GOOD team. Is football, like money, beginning to slide slowly south, leaving only pockets of success in the north?

Oh yes, and Mr Allen ....... well I think we should be interested in what happened at Wednesday. You can't just wipe history clean. He's done very good things for us ...... but isn't there a little voice in the back of your head somewhere that doesn't quite trust him? Much as I think both Mr Allen and Mr Turner come with an amber warning, everything I've seen or heard of Danny Wilson shouts decency and trustworthiness. He'll do his best, but whether that turns round Peterborough 26 shots, Chesterfield 3 is another matter.

[Dancingwilldoit]

Dev, I wouldn't trust Dave Allen as far as I could throw him - and I've got a bad back. The thing is though his investment means somebody else has to put in a fair chunk in order to get him out. There was a rumour that the Casa management were trying to put a bid together but it seems to have gone very quiet.
In not too recent history locally we had Derby, Forest, Leeds, Bradford, Weds and Sheff U all in the top flight. On the other side of the Pennines you had Burnley, Bolton, Wigan, Blackpool and Preston all up there at sometime or other. It would be great to see them all up there again but it wont be in my lifetime.
Money talks and all the money is in the south. Forget the Northern Powerhouse its all politician speak to keep us all sweet.

[spireitematt]

DA said in an interview that there is no more investment and that Danny Wilson will have to sell players before he can buy players. Did Dean Saunders spend all of the transfer budget at the start of the season?

[Devongone]

Absolutely Dancing. Mr Allen fed us, but that has made us dependent.

When we had a non-Osborne northern football powerhouse Chesterfield pretty much failed to benefit from it. We didn't get that many players from local clubs, or sell our best on to them either. Danny Wilson was a rarity going to Wednesday.

The trouble with Wednesday and United seems to be they spend more time arguing whether they are less bad than the clubs around them, than using their natural sibling rivalry to push each other forward. They're like twin cuckoos, determined to push each other out of the nest. If they could see beyond the nest, they could both succeed.

Matt, as we have only ONE player anyone would buy, Danny has pretty much got a choice between Morsy and relegation.

[spireitematt]

Absolutely Dancing. Mr Allen fed us, but that has made us dependent.

When we had a non-Osborne northern football powerhouse Chesterfield pretty much failed to benefit from it. We didn't get that many players from local clubs, or sell our best on to them either. Danny Wilson was a rarity going to Wednesday.

The trouble with Wednesday and United seems to be they spend more time arguing whether they are less bad than the clubs around them, than using their natural sibling rivalry to push each other forward. They're like twin cuckoos, determined to push each other out of the nest. If they could see beyond the nest, they could both succeed.

Matt, as we have only ONE player anyone would buy, Danny has pretty much got a choice between Morsy and relegation.

I reckon someone might come in for Tommy as well. It's not his fault he's letting all these goals in we've got a leaky defence and need to do something about it very soon.

[St Charles Owl]

Absolutely Dancing. Mr Allen fed us, but that has made us dependent.

When we had a non-Osborne northern football powerhouse Chesterfield pretty much failed to benefit from it. We didn't get that many players from local clubs, or sell our best on to them either. Danny Wilson was a rarity going to Wednesday.

The trouble with Wednesday and United seems to be they spend more time arguing whether they are less bad than the clubs around them, than using their natural sibling rivalry to push each other forward. They're like twin cuckoos, determined to push each other out of the nest. If they could see beyond the nest, they could both succeed.

Matt, as we have only ONE player anyone would buy, Danny has pretty much got a choice between Morsy and relegation.

Can't argue with that.  History shows that where Sheffield football is concerned there has rarely been a time lasting more than a couple of seasons where both teams are doing well!!  I do think though that in today's money era that football is in we are finally in a position to move back towards the top of the game as for the first time ever we have an owner that has real money and one who is prepared to spend it to get us where he thinks we should be.  I still think the Blunts will make the playoffs this season so they may well yet claw some of the gap back but if we can take advantage of our financial situation we should be able to stay ahead of them for a while.

[spireitematt]

Absolutely Dancing. Mr Allen fed us, but that has made us dependent.

When we had a non-Osborne northern football powerhouse Chesterfield pretty much failed to benefit from it. We didn't get that many players from local clubs, or sell our best on to them either. Danny Wilson was a rarity going to Wednesday.

The trouble with Wednesday and United seems to be they spend more time arguing whether they are less bad than the clubs around them, than using their natural sibling rivalry to push each other forward. They're like twin cuckoos, determined to push each other out of the nest. If they could see beyond the nest, they could both succeed.

Matt, as we have only ONE player anyone would buy, Danny has pretty much got a choice between Morsy and relegation.

Can't argue with that.  History shows that where Sheffield football is concerned there has rarely been a time lasting more than a couple of seasons where both teams are doing well!!  I do think though that in today's money era that football is in we are finally in a position to move back towards the top of the game as for the first time ever we have an owner that has real money and one who is prepared to spend it to get us where he thinks we should be.  I still think the Blunts will make the playoffs this season so they may well yet claw some of the gap back but if we can take advantage of our financial situation we should be able to stay ahead of them for a while.

I think United will miss out on the playoffs this season the last few games they've won have been 1-0 and they will hit another slump of form again like they did a few months ago. I think there are better teams than United in L1 this season such as Southend and Bradford and I would expect those two to be in the playoff places come May. It will be interesting to see if Burton can continue there form and get into the Championship it might be a big ask for them.

[St Charles Owl]

It's going to be interesting to see if Walsall and Burton can keep their momentum going having lost their managers in recent weeks. January will also be key for a number of teams in and around the playoffs, not necessarily from a buying perspective but from a who they don't sell perspective.

[Devongone]

I'd be more convinced of Sheff U's prospects if they didn't have Adele's dad Marmalade in charge.

BUT someone has to go up from Division One. I think the Championship would do to Burton exactly what it did to Yeovil. Walsall will do well to keep their team together in January. Gillingham are relying on Justin Edinburgh's illusion that they are outperforming their ability. Coventry are doing well but can they blunt our prolific attack? What will happen to The Posh if someone shakes their current unshakeable belief in their new manager? Wigan are inconsistent. Southend have no money. Bradford have scored fewer goals than us. Bury and Rochdale combined might just have sufficient support for the Championship. Millwall's a Championship club with a team prone to let in four or five on an off-day. Swindon have given themselves a manager who may find his problems re-surfacing if they come under the pressure of challenging for the play-offs. Donny and Blackpool might like to get there but they've left themselves too much to do.

Three teams are going to find themselves falling upwards.