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#51
(03-03-2018, 21:15)SomersetBaggie Wrote: How long will it be before the 'experts' say that we got what we deserved for wanting Pulis out.

It started a few weeks ago and will continue until the end of the season. It doesn't matter to the colossal cockwombles that the rot set in under Tony Pulis and we were going to go down under him anyway.

In their positions you would think they would do basic research before commenting on a matter but that's obviously too hard for them.
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(03-03-2018, 21:22)WBA-Josh Wrote:
(03-03-2018, 21:15)SomersetBaggie Wrote: How long will it be before the 'experts' say that we got what we deserved for wanting Pulis out.

It started a few weeks ago and will continue until the end of the season. It doesn't matter to the colossal cockwombles that the rot set in under Tony Pulis and we were going to go down under him anyway.

In their positions you would think they would do basic research before commenting on a matter but that's obviously too hard for them.

Might actually have been better if you had stuck with him and still got relegated!!! It would kill the argument stone dead and it would have saved you some money if you end up firing Pardew as well as Pulis!! There is a very good chance that Pulis’ last three clubs - Stoke, Palace and yourselves - are all about to be relegated and not one of those relegations will go against his name!!!!

All hypothetical of course, but Pardew seems incapable of making any improvement at all, maybe Pulis would have ground out wins instead - but we will never know!!
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#53
Spot on Josh, Pulis was the start of the decline and to be honest Pardew has just continued in a very similar vein. The new manager "bounce" never looked like happening and we've just lurched from one abject performance to another, much like the rest of a completely miserable season. I can't remember a more depressing time being an Albion fan than this one.

There's not much positive to say about Pardew, he's another who is so set in his ways that he keeps persisting stubbornly refusing to change and insisting that his ways will see us pull through, much the same as Pulis always did.

The gamble didn't pay off on Sturridge and if we'd got any game time out of him we may not be as doomed as we are as we're so clearly short of someone who can stick away half chances and one on ones and headers in the six yard box, and Sturridge would probably have done a lot of those things.

Pardew needs to go, exactly what would be the point in keeping him just to finish the season with the inevitable. Replace him now, try and salvage some pride and start the rebuild towards a push for promotion straight back next season.

While I bemoan our last 2 dinosaurs of managers and what they've done to us, there aren't many of the current crop of players who will come out of this smelling of roses either, little fight, little effort and seemingly couldn't care less attitudes, there's a couple of exceptions and another few who haven't been able to have any effect for one reason or another. Thumb down Sad

To cap it all take a look at comment 137 on the BBC match report, another dinosaur Laugh
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(03-03-2018, 18:03)Beefy 1965 Wrote: Burke should come on for Phillips in IMHO done nothing again today  Doh

Christ Rondon's missed a 1 on 1 and a free header from 6 Yards in the 2nd half  Doh

How can he score volleys from 25 yards and miss two sitters from 6 Yards  Huh

Rondon, with all the golden chances he’s missed this season, has cost Albion more points than any other player. He’s either been found out as crap, a one hat-trick wonder (v. Swansea a couple of seasons ago) or he’s got zero confidence. I’m going for he’s crap.

(03-03-2018, 21:15)SomersetBaggie Wrote: How long will it be before the 'experts' say that we got what we deserved for wanting Pulis out.

Alan Shearer has been a big critic of Albion for sacking Pulis, but he’s all about cliches. What he doesn’t seem to remember is that, since we beat Bournemouth at home last season in Round 26 of the Premier League fixtures, Pulis’s record from that match to the 4-0 home defeat by Chelsea this season read: P24 W3 D6 L15 Points 15.

Our last 12 games last season went P12 W1 D2 L9 Points 5.
Our first 12 games this season went P12 W2 D4 L6 Points 10.

A rhesus monkey could have worked out that is relegation form, but Alan Shearer evidently could not.

Pulis signed Salomon Rondon, James McClean, Jonny Evans, Matt Phillips, Nacer Chadli and Jake Livermore, all ostensibly better players than we had in our squad previously, yet he could not and would not make the transition from dour defensive tactics to attacking football, and his speciality was to persevere with playing players out of position.

Put all that to Alan Shearer and any of the 92 chairmen in the league, and I bet only Alan Shearer would still say we should have kept Pulis.

As poor as Pardew has been in terms of results, the blame for our impending relegation and lack of development rests squarely on the shoulders of Tony Pulis, and the players on the pitch, for the zero progress we made over last season and this. The current season and our players were already shot by the time Pulis was sacked.
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#55
Even if Pardew was sacked the new approach by a new manager would be spoilt by half the team leaving at the end of the season. 
Start to check out the players that will stay if we go down, releasing the older players anyway.
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Aries, I totally agree with your thoughts on Shearer and Pulis. Albion fans could just about tolerate Pulis’ brand of dour, negative football when we were getting enough positive results but when that same brand of toxic football failed, then his time was up. What Shearer and his like, including knowledgeable “fans” from other clubs, fail to do is separate the rightful sacking of Pulis from the appointment of Pardew. The fact that the latter has failed does not, in my opinion, negate the sacking of Pulis as correct. These pundits on MOTD and Radio 5 have to say something, I understand that - it’s just a pity it’s total crap
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#57
Just watched Brighton v Arsenal.
Brighton epitomized everything that the Baggies are NOT....teamwork, pride and fight! I was willing them to hold on for the win in spite of the fact that they will be staying up and we will NOT.
That is what it is all about and our players should look at themselves and be ashamed of their performances.
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(04-03-2018, 17:51)Florida Baggie Wrote: Just watched Brighton v Arsenal.
Brighton epitomized everything that the Baggies are NOT....teamwork, pride and fight! I was willing them to hold on for the win in spite of the fact that they will be staying up and we will NOT.
That is what it is all about and our players should look at themselves and be ashamed of their performances.

Good to see one Albion doing the name proud!
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#59
There's plenty of criticism on here for the players and manager and after losing again it's understandable.

What does need to be said though is the 2,200 baggies that braved the weather and traveled down to support were absolutely magnificent. Given our situation we could have been on the players backs from the first kick, instead it was possibly some of the best away support I've been a part of this season.

What did you make of the away end Stairs? I'm assuming you're the only one on here that made the journey the weekend, but were sat in with the Watford fans.
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(06-03-2018, 12:28)Sir Megson Wrote: There's plenty of criticism on here for the players and manager and after losing again it's understandable.

What does need to be said though is the 2,200 baggies that braved the weather and traveled down to support were absolutely magnificent. Given our situation we could have been on the players backs from the first kick, instead it was possibly some of the best away support I've been a part of this season.

What did you make of the away end Stairs? I'm assuming you're the only one on here that made the journey the weekend, but were sat in with the Watford fans.

Baggies away support is second to none - it’s great to be part of.
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