16-09-2017, 23:26
I'd take Grey but couldn't see him coming to us.
Big Bore Exhaust = Small Dick
Can't Wait To Say Goodbye
Jack Lester .Although in a job might not require much of a fee
OR Steve Cotterill ,who ,despite having had lots of clubs has only been sacked once .
OR Steve Cotterill ,who ,despite having had lots of clubs has only been sacked once .
17-09-2017, 00:51
Whoever the next manager is has to be the right appointment. Cannot afford to get this one wrong otherwise we could be starring at National League next season. The next manager is going to have to come in and just get us high as they can, anything above 23rd I think will be considered a success.
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17-09-2017, 12:33
I think we have to pick a proper manager with a view to the long-term, not just someone we think might save us. If someone is heading us in the right direction we'd be in 22nd place or better by the end of the season.
The problem is we're like an abandoned pit where somebody has knocked out all the props. Even through changes in management in the past we've always been able to look at a small core of players capable of handling league football. Now I look at us and we've no-one. Even Tommy was out ?injured? again yesterday. Our hopes are youngsters who might all be too young to carry the burden. And we're full of loanees and the next window comes too late.
However good the manager we appoint, he'll need something viable to manage. Do we really have that? It might be good news for those whose careers Caldwell was in the process of destroying, like Mitchell and Brewster and the youngsters I think he simply wanted to forget, Wakefield, German and Rowley ........ But this a job for someone with real vision. We need much more than someone to rearrange the deckchairs and give the odd rousing team talk. The legacy of the dreadful recruitment of Saunders and Caldwell and the lack of investment in Danny and his own poor decision-making is a club and a team at the bottom because that is where it should be. On and off the pitch we are woeful.
I'd take a chance on The Hump, or Jack Lester or Kevin Davies or any combination of them. I wouldn't mind Llera, Marcus Law at Kettering, Powell yes Chris Powell fine. If Tim Sherwood came it would be the end of my life-long association with the club. Steve Cotterill would save us, but I don't think he'd be interested, and Grey Gray never has a man been so aptly-named, but he'd probably at least save us. But then so would Danny Wilson which will make Pooch splutter into his roast.
The problem is we're like an abandoned pit where somebody has knocked out all the props. Even through changes in management in the past we've always been able to look at a small core of players capable of handling league football. Now I look at us and we've no-one. Even Tommy was out ?injured? again yesterday. Our hopes are youngsters who might all be too young to carry the burden. And we're full of loanees and the next window comes too late.
However good the manager we appoint, he'll need something viable to manage. Do we really have that? It might be good news for those whose careers Caldwell was in the process of destroying, like Mitchell and Brewster and the youngsters I think he simply wanted to forget, Wakefield, German and Rowley ........ But this a job for someone with real vision. We need much more than someone to rearrange the deckchairs and give the odd rousing team talk. The legacy of the dreadful recruitment of Saunders and Caldwell and the lack of investment in Danny and his own poor decision-making is a club and a team at the bottom because that is where it should be. On and off the pitch we are woeful.
I'd take a chance on The Hump, or Jack Lester or Kevin Davies or any combination of them. I wouldn't mind Llera, Marcus Law at Kettering, Powell yes Chris Powell fine. If Tim Sherwood came it would be the end of my life-long association with the club. Steve Cotterill would save us, but I don't think he'd be interested, and Grey Gray never has a man been so aptly-named, but he'd probably at least save us. But then so would Danny Wilson which will make Pooch splutter into his roast.
17-09-2017, 13:10
'Cough '
I agree Dev we don't want a short term 'Ronnie Moore' quick fix.
Who is Paul Mitchell ? Our ex chief scout ?
If anyone has facebook there's a touching piece on the CFC page by a guy called David Lilley on GCs departure which is worth a read .
I agree Dev we don't want a short term 'Ronnie Moore' quick fix.
Who is Paul Mitchell ? Our ex chief scout ?
If anyone has facebook there's a touching piece on the CFC page by a guy called David Lilley on GCs departure which is worth a read .
17-09-2017, 17:08
Odds have changed:
Jack Lester 4/1
Ian Evatt 6/1
Richard Money 8/1 (Got Cambridge back in the league, Got Walsall promoted to L1 in 2006/07)
Kevin Davies 8/1
Martin Allen 10/1
Ronnie Moore 14/1
Steve Cotterill 14/1 (I would pick him, he's a great manager)
Chris Powell 14/1
Neil Aspin 14/1 (Gateshead manager)
Steven Pressley 16/1
Owen Coyle 16/1
Neil Redfearn 16/1
Dean Holden 16/1 (Done well as Bristol City Assistant manager)
Graham Alexander 16/1
Paul Mitchell 16/1 (Former scout under Cook, now at Sheffield United as scout)
Alan Stubbs 16/1
Tim Sherwood 16/1
Gary Megson 16/1 (Assistant manager at West Brom, can't see him leaving)
Rob Page 16/1
Billy Heath 20/1 (FC Halifax manager)
Danny Wilson 33/1 (Can't see him coming back)
Jack Lester 4/1
Ian Evatt 6/1
Richard Money 8/1 (Got Cambridge back in the league, Got Walsall promoted to L1 in 2006/07)
Kevin Davies 8/1
Martin Allen 10/1
Ronnie Moore 14/1
Steve Cotterill 14/1 (I would pick him, he's a great manager)
Chris Powell 14/1
Neil Aspin 14/1 (Gateshead manager)
Steven Pressley 16/1
Owen Coyle 16/1
Neil Redfearn 16/1
Dean Holden 16/1 (Done well as Bristol City Assistant manager)
Graham Alexander 16/1
Paul Mitchell 16/1 (Former scout under Cook, now at Sheffield United as scout)
Alan Stubbs 16/1
Tim Sherwood 16/1
Gary Megson 16/1 (Assistant manager at West Brom, can't see him leaving)
Rob Page 16/1
Billy Heath 20/1 (FC Halifax manager)
Danny Wilson 33/1 (Can't see him coming back)
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17-09-2017, 17:31
They still have no idea ,ill start to take a bit of notice when someone goes odds on
17-09-2017, 17:35
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(17-09-2017, 17:31)bluepooch Wrote: They still have no idea ,ill start to take a bit of notice when someone goes odds on
Carson did say there going to take time to appoint the right manager and Branston has been put in temporary charge (lets hope we don't get in more of a pickle)
Just noticed Jan Molby is doing after speaking dinner very soon. Could he be the next manager?
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18-09-2017, 14:13
Carson reckons 16 applicants over the weekend. Kev Davis talking about throwing his hat into the ring as well. I still think it needs to be somebody to get us out of freefall and steady the ship. Wouldn't say no to King Kev but not at this time and that goes to Lester as well. Lets get this waste of a season out of the way and then start again.
Looking at all the lists I didn't realize there were so many ex-managers out of work. I'd still go with Ronnie Moore in a temporary capacity say with Davies as assistant. Offer Ronnie a decent bonus to keep us up then go. He knows the division and the type of football needed, it certainly wont be pretty but you bet it will be competitive. It would give Davies a couple of months to find his feet. Davies started young himself so might lean towards our own youngsters. I cant honestly see them getting much of a look in in a dog fight.
Looking at all the lists I didn't realize there were so many ex-managers out of work. I'd still go with Ronnie Moore in a temporary capacity say with Davies as assistant. Offer Ronnie a decent bonus to keep us up then go. He knows the division and the type of football needed, it certainly wont be pretty but you bet it will be competitive. It would give Davies a couple of months to find his feet. Davies started young himself so might lean towards our own youngsters. I cant honestly see them getting much of a look in in a dog fight.
Big Bore Exhaust = Small Dick
I'll kill myself on the Town Hall steps if we make Ronnie Moore manager.
I'd rather be in the Vanarama than take him or Tim Sherwood.
I reckon 47 points should about see us safe. That means 38 games - 12 wins, 6 draws, 20 defeats. Impossible for GC but well within range even for an inexperienced manager.
Get a Ronnie Moore and this time next year we'll either be feeling lumbered with him, or back looking for a replacement and bottom of the league again. We've got to break the cycle of failing managers.
I think it is a very difficult job, because of the state of the club, but in simple terms of points needed it didn't ought to be that hard. The club and GC's legacy are the problem and the new guy is going to have to be very inventive until January. And Ronnie Moore doesn't strike me as an innovator, whilst Tim Sherwood is so much of an innovator we might end up trying a wholly new system used by a remote Amazonian Tribe in Brazilian regional games.
By the way if the David Lilley piece on Facebook is the one quoted on Bob's Quite Boring consider this. If you were a football manager who KNEW there was a strong chance of being sacked after the game WOULD YOU TAKE YOUR WIFE AND KIDS ALONG? Talk about going for the sympathy vote ......... Nice Daddy just kicked Paul McGinn out of the club, got rid of The Hump, sent Evatt off to outer darkness, selected SEB in front of obviously superior young players who needed the game time ............ dispensed with others who probably didn't want to go ...... and was the most unmitigated failure of all time. He's a young fit man. Let him find a non-league team, learn to treat them properly, have some success and maybe he'll deserve more time in that most fortunate of professions in which he's been lucky enough to spend his entire working life.
I'd rather be in the Vanarama than take him or Tim Sherwood.
I reckon 47 points should about see us safe. That means 38 games - 12 wins, 6 draws, 20 defeats. Impossible for GC but well within range even for an inexperienced manager.
Get a Ronnie Moore and this time next year we'll either be feeling lumbered with him, or back looking for a replacement and bottom of the league again. We've got to break the cycle of failing managers.
I think it is a very difficult job, because of the state of the club, but in simple terms of points needed it didn't ought to be that hard. The club and GC's legacy are the problem and the new guy is going to have to be very inventive until January. And Ronnie Moore doesn't strike me as an innovator, whilst Tim Sherwood is so much of an innovator we might end up trying a wholly new system used by a remote Amazonian Tribe in Brazilian regional games.
By the way if the David Lilley piece on Facebook is the one quoted on Bob's Quite Boring consider this. If you were a football manager who KNEW there was a strong chance of being sacked after the game WOULD YOU TAKE YOUR WIFE AND KIDS ALONG? Talk about going for the sympathy vote ......... Nice Daddy just kicked Paul McGinn out of the club, got rid of The Hump, sent Evatt off to outer darkness, selected SEB in front of obviously superior young players who needed the game time ............ dispensed with others who probably didn't want to go ...... and was the most unmitigated failure of all time. He's a young fit man. Let him find a non-league team, learn to treat them properly, have some success and maybe he'll deserve more time in that most fortunate of professions in which he's been lucky enough to spend his entire working life.
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