[Washington]

19 shots with 11 on target isn't evidence that we aren't trying - just a sign of their GK having a blinder and defender clearance off the line in combination with them getting a freak goal

We kept going to the end which is why we got the equalizer.

After the international break we just need to get back on a winning run. This is a tough league and the preseason favorites for the top 2 aren't there either.

We need to take a breath and see where we are after 10 games before going into the sky is falling mode.

[Statesideowl]

Yep I think the dressing room has been rocked. And not only that it's a myriad of poor planning that led us here. Oversights that are costing dearly.

I'm sure we'll set up for more of the same next week. Play our little possession game and be ever so disappointed that the opposition figured us out.

That was super scabby the get that in at the death, and now it's going to completely paper off the cracks in some peoples minds.

I can see it now. "AMAZING COMEBACK"

It does give me that 1-1 prediction though, so there's that. I'm callin 'em

Our little possession game produced 19 shots and 11 on target, what more do you want from that possession??  We could just let them have the ball and see how many we score doing that!!  Our strikers are not scoring the chances, that's the problem.  

We can go on about a lack of signings (which is not true) or turmoil in the background, maybe the FF thing unsettled the team, but we still have the players and today had the performance to get better.  Today was something to build on.

Stats can be fantastic. Burton had 5 shots on target I think and scored 3 against us.

[Towinjustonce]

Yep I think the dressing room has been rocked. And not only that it's a myriad of poor planning that led us here. Oversights that are costing dearly.

I'm sure we'll set up for more of the same next week. Play our little possession game and be ever so disappointed that the opposition figured us out.

That was super scabby the get that in at the death, and now it's going to completely paper off the cracks in some peoples minds.

I can see it now. "AMAZING COMEBACK"

It does give me that 1-1 prediction though, so there's that. I'm callin 'em

Our little possession game produced 19 shots and 11 on target, what more do you want from that possession??  We could just let them have the ball and see how many we score doing that!!  Our strikers are not scoring the chances, that's the problem.  

We can go on about a lack of signings (which is not true) or turmoil in the background, maybe the FF thing unsettled the team, but we still have the players and today had the performance to get better.  Today was something to build on.

I agree SCO but we need RHODES.....or Martin from Derby. Fletcher has never been prolific, Nuhiu and Joao try but can't score, FF doesn't want to be here and Hooper can score but must be lazy or something !!!

If we had a finisher we would have the game over by half time.

[Washington]

Stats can be fantastic. Burton had 5 shots on target I think and scored 3 against us.


But that was down to our s*** defending in that game rather than their ace strikers

[St Charles Owl]

This championship season is all over the place for most teams!! Brum beat Norwich 3-0, Brizzle come back to beat Villa 3-1, Village top, with the team that sold their one good player sitting second. Top six is made of of none of the relegated teams or last season's play off teams. As I said it's all over the place!!!

As regards signings, we have signed Fletcher (we all agreed that was a good signing), Abdi (4m), Pudil (2m - a signing we all wanted), Sasso (another one being called for), Buckley and Jones. That puts us up with the rest of the division in terms of numbers and ahead of most in terms of quality. It's not clicking yet, but there is no reason to think it won't. As Imre said, win our upcoming home games and everything changes.

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Yep I think the dressing room has been rocked. And not only that it's a myriad of poor planning that led us here. Oversights that are costing dearly.

I'm sure we'll set up for more of the same next week. Play our little possession game and be ever so disappointed that the opposition figured us out.

That was super scabby the get that in at the death, and now it's going to completely paper off the cracks in some peoples minds.

I can see it now. "AMAZING COMEBACK"

It does give me that 1-1 prediction though, so there's that. I'm callin 'em

Our little possession game produced 19 shots and 11 on target, what more do you want from that possession??  We could just let them have the ball and see how many we score doing that!!  Our strikers are not scoring the chances, that's the problem.  

We can go on about a lack of signings (which is not true) or turmoil in the background, maybe the FF thing unsettled the team, but we still have the players and today had the performance to get better.  Today was something to build on.

Stats can be fantastic.  Burton had 5 shots on target I think and scored 3 against us.

Burnley has 19% possession, 2 on target and beat Liverpool 2-0 as well. That happens. But if you don't create the chances by simply giving up possession then you for sure won't get anywhere!!! We can all pick stats that say one thing or another, today we put in a very good first half performance with a more even second half. We did fight back when other teams would have given up and their keeper made a bunch of what were described as superb saves, as well as 2 or 3 off the line. It's not good enough on the whole, we need to get the strikers scoring but I don't get why it's all Armageddon and conspiracy theory instead of it just being a few poor performances that if we keep creating the chances could turn round very quickly??

[Owlkev71]

The transfer window closes on Wednesday, I would hope for a couple of signings and some of the deadwood finally got rid of.

CC did say after the Villa game, if it took until the 31st August to get the right players then that's what it would be.

[Daffodils on the piano]

What we have to remember is this is Sheffield Wednesday,we should be used to this,we have been getting it for the last 20 years apart from last season.They never fail to disappoint,I've been watching them for over 50 years and it's been more low than high.

[St Charles Owl]

The transfer window closes on Wednesday, I would hope for a couple of signings and some of the deadwood finally got rid of.

CC did say after the Villa game, if it took until the 31st  August to get the right players then that's what it would be.

So would I, but unless they improve the starting 11 then I wouldn't bother. I am hoping that's what CC means by the right players. So far we have signed essentially 3 first team players that should improve the team in Abdi, Pudil and Fletcher, the rest are squad players, which we need. As regards the deadwood, let's be careful getting rid of them as we could leave the squad too thin. McGugan, Dielna, Bus etc can leave for sure, but let's replace them as well with better.

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What we have to remember is this is Sheffield Wednesday,we should be used to this,we have been getting it for the last 20 years apart from last season.They never fail to disappoint,I've been watching them for over 50 years and it's been more low than high.

And it's what happened at the start of last season as well, so nothing new!!

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Stateside - I am glass half full and always will be, you are more of a cynic than me. We both want the same thing so let's keep debating from our ends of the spectrum!!!!!

[Owlkev71]

Do we want a smaller squad with more quality or bigger with a few deadwood?

[Imre varadi]

sell fessi the end !! hes the cause of this dip in form xxxx him off sign rhodes no money lost good xxxx riddance !! the rest dont realy make a difference ?

Abdi Jones will come good !! will buckley ? i xxxx doubt it from what ive seen of him ? but the big issue here is scoring goals and fessi is the problem here !!