[Tibby Baggie]

So much gloom and doom, some very much justified, some great points being made.

I'd just say look where we are NOW as opposed to 10 years ago. We are now a (pretty much) established PL club, very solvent  and very unlikely to be relegated.

Hundreds of thousands of supporters would gladly be in our position.

End of?  

Totally agree Drewks, I just hate the premier league, for us it will be a long slow road to build up sufficient independent non tv money to push on to the upper reaches ...... just had a thought ...... stoke, a similar sized club have been in prem longer than us, started off with Pulis, now just starting to bother the top ten with better football. There is hope yet.

It's the hope that kills you though