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I think you all need to look at the situation from the position of the Police - who don't investigate statistics, they investigate crimes.

Prosecution in his country (UK) requires the likelyhood of conviction - that means evidence that shows beyond reasonable doubt that a crime has been committed: do you really think it probable that the crown will attempt to prosecute in a situation were every other attendee at the match could be called as a witness for the defence/prosecution and there are 50000 people in the stadium?

Arrest and charge 20 people you potentially open the doors to the examination and cross examination of 1000000 people.

Oh, I can hear some of you saying "don't talk shite" but there are no anonymous spectators anymore - or very few and while 50k a time might seem unreasonable, even a situation were only 50 witnesses were called to 20 individual prosecutions would turn the judicial system on its head. That's why the few prosecutions that have been successful have usually had police officers who have heard and seen the individual concerned as witnesses. Or do you propose to just lock the stadium and have a mass (pardon the pun) kangaroo court?

The club does all it can and it has no control over the members of society who walk through the gates - sectarianism was around before Rangers. It's not football's fault that man invented God and then decided to argue God's personal preferences. The God problem came first. Sectarianism is an idea and you can't ban an idea - any idea. You can challenge it, counter it, have a social discourse that tries to neutralise it but if you take a hammer to it, like steel on the anvil, you just temper it and make it resist. Ideas have to be undermined in order that their own weight makes them fall.
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Does Scottish football really need Rangers FC in it's current toxic state? - by 0762 - 31-12-2015, 13:54
RE: Does Scottish football really need Rangers FC in it's current toxic state? - by Paigntonhibby - 31-12-2015, 15:02
RE: Does Scottish football really need Rangers FC in it's current toxic state? - by Fredstersafool - 31-12-2015, 15:05
RE: Does Scottish football really need Rangers FC in it's current toxic state? - by supercooper - 31-12-2015, 19:29
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RE: Does Scottish football really need Rangers FC in it's current toxic state? - by Trusevich - 31-12-2015, 21:56
RE: Does Scottish football really need Rangers FC in it's current toxic state? - by Fredstersafool - 31-12-2015, 22:08
RE: Does Scottish football really need Rangers FC in it's current toxic state? - by St Charles Owl - 31-12-2015, 22:08
RE: Does Scottish football really need Rangers FC in it's current toxic state? - by 0762 - 01-01-2016, 00:42
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RE: Does Scottish football really need Rangers FC in it's current toxic state? - by 0762 - 02-01-2016, 20:58
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RE: Does Scottish football really need Rangers FC in it's current toxic state? - by St Charles Owl - 01-01-2016, 03:47
RE: Does Scottish football really need Rangers FC in it's current toxic state? - by TheWorthinGer - 01-01-2016, 03:52
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RE: Does Scottish football really need Rangers FC in it's current toxic state? - by TheWorthinGer - 08-01-2016, 18:57
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RE: Does Scottish football really need Rangers FC in it's current toxic state? - by 0762 - 08-01-2016, 20:36
RE: Does Scottish football really need Rangers FC in it's current toxic state? - by hibeejim21 - 08-01-2016, 20:53
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RE: Does Scottish football really need Rangers FC in it's current toxic state? - by 0762 - 08-01-2016, 21:17
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RE: Does Scottish football really need Rangers FC in it's current toxic state? - by 0762 - 09-01-2016, 01:05
RE: Does Scottish football really need Rangers FC in it's current toxic state? - by supercooper - 09-01-2016, 02:29
RE: Does Scottish football really need Rangers FC in it's current toxic state? - by Paigntonhibby - 09-01-2016, 11:02
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RE: Does Scottish football really need Rangers FC in it's current toxic state? - by TheWorthinGer - 09-01-2016, 12:54
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