[WBA Will]

My view is that it's butting heads over two polar opposite opinions and I can see where you're both coming from to some extent.

BaggieMan- I'd also agree that anyone who thinks Pulis is 100% guaranteed to keep us up is deluded, but calling 5 points from the first 5 games of the season relegation form is equally so. By that logic Chelsea are also relegation candidates this season. Yes the football frankly is shite right now, but we played 3 of those 5 games without arguably our best player and last seasons top scorer. 

Firstly, welcome to the forum Tibby Baggie 

5 points from 5 games is borderline relegation form. That gives you 38 points over the season which is what Villa got last season, finishing 17th. Also, in acquiring those 5 points we've scored ONE goal, which was against 9 men! Even the two we scored against Chelsea, one was against a team 2-0 up and lacking concentration, the other against 10 men. Even more worrying, how many chances have we missed so far this season? I can't think of many. Saido against Watford, Morrison's penalty... Any others I'm missing? That shows that we're simply not creating anything which is highly, highly worrying. We're just not set up in a way that is going to create chances.