25-03-2015, 01:17
(This post was last modified: 25-03-2015, 01:22 by St Charles Owl.)
(25-03-2015, 00:59)Lord Snooty Wrote: The fans Have to take some blame, not just Liverpool fans, but any football fan who ever went to a match back in the day and caused trouble. That includes Huddersfield Town fans, Leeds fans, Millwall fans, etc etc, but most of all the bloody Liverpool fans.
Why? Because due to their behaviour, fences had to be erected at football grounds.
Why do I say mostly the bloody Liverpool fans? Because they were the biggest set of arseholes in the country. They were the ones who's behaviour got all English clubs kicked out of Europe.
Luckily, there were no fences up at the front of the main stand at Valley Parade in 1985. Can you imagine how many dead bodies there would have been then?
Without fences there would've been no deaths at Hillsborough that day.
OK. So there were fences there. Yes, the police got a lot wrong on the day and were responsible for all that went wrong. The police are mostly responsible for it. But the fans aren't totally blameless, because of what had gone on in the past.
Does that make sense?
They also aren't totally blameless for what went on that day as well. All the pushing and shoving to get into the ground is a small part of what caused the crush at Gate C, which in turn forced the cop on duty there to open the gate and ease the crush before someone died outside. No one is saying it is all their fault by any means, but some of the responsibility was on them. In my opinion at the end of the day SYP will rightly take the massive bulk of the blame for their failure to control the situation both outside and inside the ground, but a number of other parties were also partly to blame in much smaller ways for contributing to the events that day, and that includes the fans.
Just to add as well, the decision made by the FA and SYP not to simply delay the kick-off, something that they have little reservation doing these days such as our game at the weekend at Rotherham, would probably have saved every life. The fans were desperate to get into the ground for the kick-off, so were pushing and shoving to get to the turnstiles causing the crush outside. Any of us that went to games in the 80s have been in that situation many times outside multiple grounds, its what fans did, its why the police treated them like cattle because most of the time we acted like animals!!!!