[theo_luddite]

Is there any point in appealing the red card? It's gonna be a 4 match ban anyway. Might as well.

Can't see the ref admitting he was wrong though. Basically, he was right.

Could say it was accidental, trying to grab the shirt. I don't know. Could end up with a longer ban, which is what's happened before.

I'd say leave it. The FA generally don't like admitting their ref's make wrong decisions. As Glennon said on Radio Leeds last night, he appealled one once, video's, still photo's and an admission from the other team's striker that he hadn't touched him. Still got banned and fined. Like you say - they could push it up to 5 games or more.

If you're first or second in on the appeals day you might get let off or have a red reduced to a yellow if they are in a generous mood, but beyond that and after lunchtime, forget it.