[Maddix]

ive played on all sorts of pitches aswell owlskev !!! and it depends on what level your games at if the pitch plays a part ? and it did with me so i sympathise  

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infact it was one of the main reasons why i quit at 32 and not at 45 years old !!

I know exactly what you are saying Imre but it doesn't get away from the fact that we should be more adept at playing on our home dunghill than the opposition. We get far more practice on it than they do  

and I quit at 28 because me knee was, and still is, f ucked mainly due to playing on crap pitches