[spireitematt]

The point is Dev, it's all about money. You've got 2 teams City and Chelsea who don't even need the competition as they don't need the money but somehow they've signed up anyway. 6-7 of those teams out the 12 are in so much debt yet they keep paying top wages and massive transfer fees.

Back in 1992 the 20 teams fucked over the Football League by creating the Premier League and now the Premier League and Sky are angry because they are now getting fucked over by the 'big six'. What did they expect? They invited the millionaires and billionaires and corporate investors to take over the beautiful game and what have they done they have served their own xxxx interests.

This has happened because of the Premier League and because of TV deals and revenue and greed. They have created monsters, monsters which are owned by foreign owners who don't understand the game, traditions, they don't understand the football pyramid or the concept of promotion and relegation or even what the offside rule is and these people believe they can set up and organise and run their own competition which is closed off from everyone else because they want to create an American model which is attractive to fans in America, India, China etc etc.

Let's be real here though the FA, Premier League, UEFA, FIFA, the Football League and the National League aren't the good guys here, there are bad guys and bad guys.

I have to disagree a bit.  The PL was created so that the top division could do its own deals with TV, and sure that has had a profound effect on football in the UK.  But it still allowed the integrity of competition and kept the relegation and promotion intact to allow other clubs to still dream of their day in the sun.  Since the creating of the PL only two teams outside the top 6 have won it - Blackburn and Leicester, but in the 28 years prior to the PL only 5 other teams outside the top 6 won the title, albeit over 9 seasons.  Since the 1970s Man Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal had dominated the title winning.  For me the changes to the European Cup are just as much to blame, allowing the top 4 to qualify for the CL has seen the creation of a breakaway of clubs at the top - the now so called 6 - who share these 4 CL places and the money that goes with it among themselves.  This has created a mini-league at the top that is very hard to break into for any other club.  You are right, all the football bodies have made decisions that have precipitated this situation.

The TV revenue has ruined the game and it's favoured the 'big six' clubs. I agree with you about the Champions League, I prefer the original format of the European cup and Cup winners cup.

The whole Super League is falling like a house of cards.