[Tom_Wba]

I would take Pulis but he wouldn't be my first choice and i wouldn't want him having full control of transfers cause A) he signs average players for big fee's and B) come the summer Peace and Pulis will end up falling out just like he did at Palace then we're back to square one. My choice would be Sherwood if he's allowed to bring in his own people, I also wouldn't be upset if we brought in Mcinnes but yet again he wouldn't be my first choice but one thing is for sure he'd unite everyone at the club

[BBB]

In the middle of everything else which'll no doubt be said in the coming days, I'd like to wish Irvine all the best for the future.  He seems a nice bloke who tried his hardest in a difficult situation, and conducted himself with dignity even when getting flak from all sides, but he shouldn't have been appointed in the first place.  Big mistake all round.

Good luck, Alan.

As I have previously said, he'd make a great second/assistant to the new guy. And he'd be grateful. Plus JP wouldn't have to pay out the rest of his contract.

Hope this wasn't said above, as I've only just read the news.

I still think this has a lot to do with the players not gelling with each other - name two who do>>>

BBB

[bomberbrown1968]

In the middle of everything else which'll no doubt be said in the coming days, I'd like to wish Irvine all the best for the future.  He seems a nice bloke who tried his hardest in a difficult situation, and conducted himself with dignity even when getting flak from all sides, but he shouldn't have been appointed in the first place.  Big mistake all round.

Good luck, Alan.

As I have previously said, he'd make a great second/assistant to the new guy. And he'd be grateful. Plus JP wouldn't have to pay out the rest of his contract.

Hope this wasn't said above, as I've only just read the news.

I still think this has a lot to do with the players not gelling with each other - name two who do>>>

BBB

Sorry BBB but no, no and thrice no.

I've not seen any improvement in our coaching since Irvine was there, for all his reputation IMO maybe teaching the kids basics, but not when it comes to competitive top level football.

And if the players aren't gelling then it's down to coaching again, get an understanding in training or at least work on it on the training ground.

While I do wish Irvine all the best in whatever it turns out to be he does, it can't be far enough away from us for me IMO

[valpayne]

I don't usually join forums but I'm compelled to join this one as I cannot believe some of the reaction i'm reading.
Ska'd is right. Irvine was a nice bloke but sadly not a PL or even a lower league manager/HC as stints at Preston and Sheff W have proved.
It was in fact a totally bizarre appointment and I was saying to all who would listen that I'd never even heard of the guy and trouble was certainly ahead
and so it has proved. Recently I texted my dad and predicted the following..... midway through QPR match at 2-2 I texted We've completely blown this and I'm waiting for the inevitable Austin hat trick    I also predicted a thrashing from Man C and the traditional loss at Stoke and West Ham to and by new years day we'd be in the bottom three.... this remains to be seen but I'm pretty spot on at this so far, I should be a betting man  
So why am I vexed at some comments on here I'll tell you? I don't give a flying fig if Pulis is a this, that or the other whining welshman etc because despite all the opposers to this guy, He is a winner, fact! He kept Stoke in this league for years and he totally turned Palace around last year as they climbed out the bottom three and we sank ever closer to it finishing horribly close in 17th. All the voices at WBA said they didn't want that to happen again and guess what? Its happening now so my only beam of light, and believe me I'm not a TP fan at all but, he is the one available manager that has the PL experience, the nouse and b**ls to save any team like WBA from certain relegation. My fear is his demands and the change of management structure that will be needed to accommodate them will screw any deal up and we will go down. Tim Sherwood certainly has the B***s but he hasn't got the experience and that worries me a great deal. JP needs to put his ideals to one side right now and give TP what he needs to save this club because we are in deep s*** and playing pretty football isn't working folks god help us if we get this next appt wrong

[Zinman]

I don't usually join forums but I'm compelled to join this one as I cannot believe some of the reaction i'm reading.
Ska'd is right. Irvine was a nice bloke but sadly not a PL or even a lower league manager/HC as stints at Preston and Sheff W have proved.
It was in fact a totally bizarre appointment and I was saying to all who would listen that I'd never even heard of the guy and trouble was certainly ahead
and so it has proved. Recently I texted my dad and predicted the following..... midway through QPR match at 2-2 I texted We've completely blown this and I'm waiting for the inevitable Austin hat trick    I also predicted a thrashing from Man C and the traditional loss at Stoke and West Ham to and by new years day we'd be in the bottom three.... this remains to be seen but I'm pretty spot on at this so far, I should be a betting man  
So why am I vexed at some comments on here I'll tell you? I don't give a flying fig if Pulis is a this, that or the other whining welshman etc because despite all the opposers to this guy, He is a winner, fact! He kept Stoke in this league for years and he totally turned Palace around last year as they climbed out the bottom three and we sank ever closer to it finishing horribly close in 17th. All the voices at WBA said they didn't want that to happen again and guess what? Its happening now so my only beam of light, and believe me I'm not a TP fan at all but, he is the one available manager that has the PL experience, the nouse and b**ls to save any team like WBA from certain relegation. My fear is his demands and the change of management structure that will be needed to accommodate them will screw any deal up and we will go down. Tim Sherwood certainly has the B***s but he hasn't got the experience and that worries me a great deal. JP needs to put his ideals to one side right now and give TP what he needs to save this club because we are in deep s*** and playing pretty football isn't working folks god help us if we get this next appt wrong

Each to his own but I don't want to watch a bunch of thugs intent on stopping the opposition from playing and hoping for a set piece or knock down from a hopeful hoof outfield. The pro-Pulis crowd seem to assume that he would guarantee us premier league football next season - there is no such guarantee and the nightmare scenario is having this man playing his brand of goofball in the championship - I for one won't pay my money to watch it.

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What would be interesting would be to see how many people who are in favour of Pulis actually go to games. I don't mean this in a disparaging way, but I can see why people who don't attend would be attracted by his apparent success rate. What I would find more difficult to understand is support from those who have actually endured watching Pulis' Stoke over the last few years. Again, this post isn't meant as a criticism of those who don't or can't attend on a regular basis, nor to suggest that their opinions are any less valid.

[Slick_Footwork]

Each to his own but I don't want to watch a bunch of thugs intent on stopping the opposition from playing and hoping for a set piece or knock down from a hopeful hoof outfield. The pro-Pulis crowd seem to assume that he would guarantee us premier league football next season - there is no such guarantee and the nightmare scenario is having this man playing his brand of goofball in the championship - I for one won't pay my money to watch it.

I think you'll struggle to find anyone who is more of a football purist than I am.

I'm very much an idealist it how I believe the ball should be passed and the game should be played. Plus doesn't match those ideals.

However our current predicament, the priority is staying in this division.

Of the current available crop of managers, Pulis is the one manager who has genuine knowledge of keeping teams in this league. Palace were absolutely nailed on to go down before he took over last year, they were getting thrashed left and right.

So while I don't think by any means he's a guarantee. He certainly looks less of a gamble in terms of keeping us up than the others.

It'd be great if there was someone with Pulis' experience of the bottom half of the Premiers League who played decent football, but there isn't.

We will see what happens, but I'd be willing to sacrifice style of play to stay in this league. For the record, I thought the football under Irvine has been the worst since the Brian Little era anyway.

[wba_1996]

Pulis' football can't be anywhere near as bad as the purposeless, stale dross served up every week by Irvine and Downing.

[valpayne]

I don't usually join forums but I'm compelled to join this one as I cannot believe some of the reaction i'm reading.
Ska'd is right. Irvine was a nice bloke but sadly not a PL or even a lower league manager/HC as stints at Preston and Sheff W have proved.
It was in fact a totally bizarre appointment and I was saying to all who would listen that I'd never even heard of the guy and trouble was certainly ahead
and so it has proved. Recently I texted my dad and predicted the following..... midway through QPR match at 2-2 I texted We've completely blown this and I'm waiting for the inevitable Austin hat trick    I also predicted a thrashing from Man C and the traditional loss at Stoke and West Ham to and by new years day we'd be in the bottom three.... this remains to be seen but I'm pretty spot on at this so far, I should be a betting man  
So why am I vexed at some comments on here I'll tell you? I don't give a flying fig if Pulis is a this, that or the other whining welshman etc because despite all the opposers to this guy, He is a winner, fact! He kept Stoke in this league for years and he totally turned Palace around last year as they climbed out the bottom three and we sank ever closer to it finishing horribly close in 17th. All the voices at WBA said they didn't want that to happen again and guess what? Its happening now so my only beam of light, and believe me I'm not a TP fan at all but, he is the one available manager that has the PL experience, the nouse and b**ls to save any team like WBA from certain relegation. My fear is his demands and the change of management structure that will be needed to accommodate them will screw any deal up and we will go down. Tim Sherwood certainly has the B***s but he hasn't got the experience and that worries me a great deal. JP needs to put his ideals to one side right now and give TP what he needs to save this club because we are in deep s*** and playing pretty football isn't working folks god help us if we get this next appt wrong

Each to his own but I don't want to watch a bunch of thugs intent on stopping the opposition from playing and hoping for a set piece or knock down from a hopeful hoof outfield. The pro-Pulis crowd seem to assume that he would guarantee us premier league football next season - there is no such guarantee and the nightmare scenario is having this man playing his brand of goofball in the championship - I for one won't pay my money to watch it.

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What would be interesting would be to see how many people who are in favour of Pulis actually go to games. I don't mean this in a disparaging way, but I can see why people who don't attend would be attracted by his apparent success rate. What I would find more difficult to understand is support from those who have actually endured watching Pulis' Stoke over the last few years. Again, this post isn't meant as a criticism of those who don't or can't attend on a regular basis, nor to suggest that their opinions are any less valid.

Zinman I'm not a fan of TP trust me he drives me nuts but I simply cannot see a better short term solution. He has a proven record is all I'm saying and right now we need that experience and survival instinct. You're absolutely right. Nothing is guaranteed but If you can see a better candidate out there I'm all ears. I'm not an expert I played for Mile Oak as a teenager as well as local and school teams I know nothing about nothing except two things. 1 We are losing week after week after week 2 We need to recruit somebody that can turn a losing team round asap or thats it. Championship football is guaranteed. I don't want to see us hoof the ball either mate but I'm gutted at seeing us lose matches every single s*****g week its heart breaking.

[BaggieMan]

Pulis' football can't be anywhere near as bad as the purposeless, stale dross served up every week by Irvine and Downing.

Believe me 1996, oh yes it can !

My Sjokie mates moaned season after season about the super-dross ARP (Anthony Richard Pulis) served up. Needless to say they all have smiles since ARP left and they now see some football under Mark Hughes.

[Zinman]

Yes much of the football served up under Smith, Gould, Little, Clarke, Irvine and several others was dross but I can honestly say that I preferred all of it compared to Pulis' Stoke. Sorry but I want to be entertained and if that means being entertained in the Championship rather than bored rigid in the Premier League then I'll take it. Watching Ardiles' team in the third division was infinitely better than Stoke under Pulis. If he is appointed then I'll give him time, but if he reverts to thuggish hoofball I won't be staying to watch it.