[Beefy 1965]

More amazingly a fifa whistleblower claims she did see something happen regarding Bids  

She has now been offered protection by the FBI as they feel her life is being threatened,

Can this organisation stoop any lower,

The world must take some sort of stance against Blatter and his Cronies  

[drewks]

AAAAGHHHH!!!

Now Wigan and their Chairman are in deep do-do for some comment that Mr Phelan made in an attempt to defend Malky Mackay, who as we all know is being investigated by the FA over 'those texts'.
Now I know that MM was very naive, but - hand on heart, are there many of us who haven't, at some stage, said something similar that WASN'T meant in an offensive way but could be construed as such?

Now their Chairman, and the club.

It may be 'this day & age' but personally I'm really tired of everybody being so soft, quick to be offended and wanting to find fault with others.

RANT OVER

[silverbaggie]

AAAAGHHHH!!!  

Now Wigan and their Chairman are in deep do-do for some comment that Mr Phelan made in an attempt to defend Malky Mackay, who as we all know is being investigated by the FA over 'those texts'.
Now I know that MM was very naive, but - hand on heart, are there many of us who haven't, at some stage, said something similar that WASN'T meant in an offensive way but could be construed  as such?

Now their Chairman, and the club.

It may be 'this day & age' but personally I'm really tired of everybody being so soft, quick to be offended and wanting to find fault with others.

RANT OVER    

I agree wholeheartedly Drewks.
The world is going mad with its fawning adherence to Political Correctness.

Stand by for the Thought Police.

[Ska'dForLife-WBA]

Not sure how the expectation that people should be treated as individuals rather than absurd, factually incorrect 19th century stereotypes qualifies as "political correctness", but hey ho. Each to their own, I suppose.

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I should clarify that the above comment is specifically made in regards to Dave Whelan, who I think should explain his pathetic, clichéd comment about Jewish people in exactly the same way that Anelka had to explain the quenelle. At what point did challenging this kind of bullshit bigotry become something to be moaned about?

Mackay I just think has a dodgy sense of humour, and would save himself a lot of trouble by just holding his hands up, admitting that and then saying "judge me by my actions, not my jokes". And I say that as someone no stranger to the odd old-fashioned joke, but always happy to be judged by the same criteria.

[WillieJohnstonsGreenhouse]

You would say that Ska'd you flibberdey gibblett

[Zinman]

Apparently he said "Jewish people love money, English people love money, we all love money". So why is only the first part of that statement being picked out as racist? If this is actually what he said then he's saying that everyone is the same which seems like the antithesis of racism to me.

[Ska'dForLife-WBA]

He allegedly followed that statement up with the remark: "Do you think Jewish people chase money a little bit more than we do? I think they are very shrewd people. I think Jewish people do chase money more than everybody else."

Personally, I feel that requires a little elucidation from Mr Whelan.

[drewks]

....well it's still my opinion that everybody is just too quick to jump onto a word/phrase/sentence that is maybe - or maybe not - slightly out of order, and blow it up out of all proportion.

(It's quite possible that Mr Whelan has had a lot of experience of wheelings and dealings with Jewish people in his professional life to be able to say this with knowledge. Is he still not allowed to say it??)

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone", and all that.
Grrrrr......

[Ska'dForLife-WBA]

I've had dealings with Jewish people in my life, and count a good many among my mates. They make do with a fraction of the money Whelan's hoarded for himself in his life, and they're quite content with it.

So, with that knowledge and personal experience, am I allowed to say that Whelan's alleged remarks are utter rubbish straight out of 19th century anti-Semitic propaganda tracts? Am I allowed to ask for him to explain himself? Am I allowed to ask for an FA investigation of the matter if he doesn't?

Again, I point to Anelka and the quenelle. Although I was unsure about that to begin with, I accept in hindsight that I was incorrect. The FA were right to investigate that, and the club eventually right to dismiss him. For me, there's nowhere near the nuance in Whelan's alleged remarks that I originally felt there was in the quenelle; but, as I've said, I'd welcome the bloke at least clarifying his meaning, if he feels he's been misquoted or stitched up. (Anelka was also given that chance, and he blew it).

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I'll also add that if Dave Whelan HAS been misquoted or stitched up, then I hope he sues the journo in question for libel, and if he successfully does so, I'll apologise for ever doubting his character (though not for calling for an explanation; I feel that's absolutely necessary in this case).

[talkSAFT]

Can't be arsed to read what Whelan and Mackay said, but I'm starting to dislike the PC brigade more than the people who they villify.

Jocks and Yorkies (hope they're not offended by these titles) actually laugh along when people joke about how tight they are. Irish people laugh along at Irish jokes. And Jewish comedians' repertoire has always been littered with jokes about their love for money, etc. The only people who think they should be offended are the PC.
Brits take the piss out of the rude French, and the Frogs (hope they're not offended) laugh and give it back.
I'm just waiting for the PC to call the Thought Police when visiting fans start chanting "Yam-Yams"! Why aren't we offended by that term, because it sounds like the type of name we should be pretty offended by.