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RE: Tony Pulis' replacement - drewks - 21-11-2017
Have you been taking radical pills, tidy?
Most people wouldn't call Derek McInnes 'useless' or Pepe Mel an 'idiot'.
RE: Tony Pulis' replacement - tidy - 21-11-2017
(21-11-2017, 09:58)drewks Wrote: Have you been taking radical pills, tidy?
Most people wouldn't call Derek McInnes 'useless' or Pepe Mel an 'idiot'.
Yep, 'useless and idiot' were probably a bit strong...
According to the press today then looks like we may well find out if DM is actually any good. Apparently we've asked Aberdeen for permission to speak to him.
RE: Tony Pulis' replacement - hibeejim21 - 21-11-2017
(20-11-2017, 19:16)BaggieSteve Wrote:(20-11-2017, 17:41)hibeejim21 Wrote: I'd leave mcinnes alone. He isn't a very good manager and I think he is holding out for the job with the rangers.
Michael o'neill has worked wonders with a limited pool at northern Ireland, he might be a good shout.
Certainly no point going from the likes of pulis to allardyce or pardew.
Hi Jim
I'm interested to know why you think McInnes is not a very good manager. Whilst he had a poor time at Bristol City, he has consistently managed Aberdeen to second place in the SPL, a league where only one team is going to win it, the only question being by how much. Last season they finished 9 points ahead of third place and 18 ahead of fourth, previous season it was 6 points ahead of third place and 15 ahead of fourth and in 2014-15, they finished 10 points ahead of third and 18 points ahead of fourth. I'm not sure what more he could have done. Genuinely interested in your thoughts and if you feel there are other issues at stake with him as a manager
Hi steve.
I think mcinnes is overrated as a coach. While rangers were out the league he should have won more trophies on the budget he had,his record in Europe is also shocking. He has shown tactical naivety time and again,a lack of a plan B, a complete inability to use subs to change a game, and complete failure to lay a glove on Celtic during his tenure.... in fact Rodgers has schooled him completely every time they have met. That's the kind of calibre of coach west brom should be after.
His style of play is pretty dull too,after pulis surely you want to go for someone more exciting ?
I think WBA can do better than mcinnes, I just don't see him being considered at all with some of the options available and the money that is in the premiership. just an opinion though.
RE: Tony Pulis' replacement - meandbrenarebaggies - 21-11-2017
The head coach is gone. The feeding frenzy to replace him begins.
Suggestions emerge from the swamp that football precariously floats on.
Can you be addicted to optimism? This one has a name that a panel of
linguists would stumble over and a pedigree gained in a league played half
way up some Himilayan mountain; this one is so suitable we would win
United Nations approval if appointed; this one is so difficult to hire he
must be the golden one, etc,etc…
Hello out there..It really, really, really doesn’t matter at all.
The manager/head coach’s contribution is a zero sum one.
As many times as they select the right team they select the wrong one.
For all their words of praise they have as many words of discouragement.
At any point in time, any league will show those at the top and those at
the bottom, This proves that half of ALL managers are currently failing.
So why invest so much faith in their abilities? I seriously think a case could
be made to hire them based just on the length of their arms…after all its
waving them about on the touchline during a game that defines them.
We need a real knuckle dragger out there. It matters not what language
he (or she) yells at the players…they don’t listen. Hire who you like but
remember…they don’t play. Get an orangutang from Chester zoo and put
it on the bench..use the money saved to buy another player…somebody
who can ACTUALLY make a difference.
RE: Tony Pulis' replacement - BaggieSteve - 21-11-2017
(21-11-2017, 14:11)hibeejim21 Wrote:(20-11-2017, 19:16)BaggieSteve Wrote:(20-11-2017, 17:41)hibeejim21 Wrote: I'd leave mcinnes alone. He isn't a very good manager and I think he is holding out for the job with the rangers.
Michael o'neill has worked wonders with a limited pool at northern Ireland, he might be a good shout.
Certainly no point going from the likes of pulis to allardyce or pardew.
Hi Jim
I'm interested to know why you think McInnes is not a very good manager. Whilst he had a poor time at Bristol City, he has consistently managed Aberdeen to second place in the SPL, a league where only one team is going to win it, the only question being by how much. Last season they finished 9 points ahead of third place and 18 ahead of fourth, previous season it was 6 points ahead of third place and 15 ahead of fourth and in 2014-15, they finished 10 points ahead of third and 18 points ahead of fourth. I'm not sure what more he could have done. Genuinely interested in your thoughts and if you feel there are other issues at stake with him as a manager
Hi steve.
I think mcinnes is overrated as a coach. While rangers were out the league he should have won more trophies on the budget he had,his record in Europe is also shocking. He has shown tactical naivety time and again,a lack of a plan B, a complete inability to use subs to change a game, and complete failure to lay a glove on Celtic during his tenure.... in fact Rodgers has schooled him completely every time they have met. That's the kind of calibre of coach west brom should be after.
His style of play is pretty dull too,after pulis surely you want to go for someone more exciting ?
I think WBA can do better than mcinnes, I just don't see him being considered at all with some of the options available and the money that is in the premiership. just an opinion though.
Thanks Jim, that's a really honest appraisal and I'll certainly how to your better knowledge than mine on the SPL as I spend my time going to games in the Scottish lower leagues (for fun, although that sounds strange). I suppose I'm attracted to him because he's not one of the other names which are desperately uninspiring and the usual suspects.
RE: Tony Pulis' replacement - Dingle-Dingle - 21-11-2017
Fat Sam is the bookies favourite. Can I start now........ Allerdyce OUT. DD
RE: Tony Pulis' replacement - BaggieSteve - 21-11-2017
(21-11-2017, 15:36)Dingle-Dingle Wrote: Fat Sam is the bookies favourite. Can I start now........ Allerdyce OUT. DD
Bookies favourite often means nothing at this stage; however I agree that if they appoint Allardyce then it will be the most abject decision going
RE: Tony Pulis' replacement - WBA-Josh - 21-11-2017
Jeremy Peace mostly did different to what was reported in the media as fact. It was only Tony Pulis where it followed the early reports.
RDM - Irvine reported as set to take over. Next day RDM is appointed.
Hodgson - Hughton set to be appointed. Next day Hodgson was appointed.
Clarke - Ralf Rangnick to be appointed. Next day Clarke was appointed.
Mel - Thomas Schaaf set for job. Half a day later Mel was appointed.
Irvine - I forget who the reported favourite was but Irvine came out of the left field on the day he was appointed.
I hope Williams does the same and doesn't appoint Sam Allardyce who is currently the media favourite. I don't have much against Allardyce (apart from his dodgy character and aspects of his football idelogy) but I feel that he isn't the right man for this club in the long term. I could stomach it until the end of the season like he did with Palace but no more than that. The club needs fresh ideas and input and in my opinion Sam Allardyce isn't going to give us that in the long term.
RE: Tony Pulis' replacement - Dingle-Dingle - 21-11-2017
https://socceronsunday.com/article/big-sam-appointed-new-west-brom-manager/
There it is then. Allerdyce OUT. DD
RE: Tony Pulis' replacement - WBA-Josh - 21-11-2017
John Percy's latest article:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/11/21/alan-pardew-emerging-serious-contender-take-west-brom-tony-pulis/
I don't know about the rest of you but I quite like Alan Pardew. He might be a bit of a twat and has had issues in the past because of it but he is an experienced Premier League manager and he likes his team to play football on the floor. He had a 40% win rate during his time there which is higher than Roy Hodgson's during his time at Albion.