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RE: OTHER FOOTBALL - Miscellaneous - Dingle-Dingle - 20-12-2019
Separated at birth. Jurgen Klopp and Bargain Hunt`s Ben Cooper??
DD
RE: OTHER FOOTBALL - Miscellaneous - Ska'dForLife-WBA - 27-12-2019
Missiles (including a metal hip-flask) thrown at Man City players by Wolves fans after VAR hands them a goal from a retaken penalty that was questionable to begin with. You have to wonder how much longer this experiment can last; it's degenerating into farce.
RE: OTHER FOOTBALL - Miscellaneous - BaggieSteve - 27-12-2019
(27-12-2019, 22:48)Ska\dForLife-WBA Wrote: Missiles (including a metal hip-flask) thrown at Man City players by Wolves fans after VAR hands them a goal from a retaken penalty that was questionable to begin with. You have to wonder how much longer this experiment can last; it's degenerating into farce.Ska’d, do you mean VAR or the allocation of hip flasks at the turnstile? I think the latter is a great idea, particularly if it comes filled with a malt. I have to say that I’m impressed that a Dingle had a hip flask, indicates a level of unexpected sophistication. However, I think VAR is a crock of sh*t and is ruining the excitement of the game.
RE: OTHER FOOTBALL - Miscellaneous - WBA-Josh - 28-12-2019
Even the Germans are getting pissed off with VAR and that’s the country that does it the best! Chants of “scheiß DFB” after VAR has been used to rule out a goal or award a penalty from most of the stadium isn’t a good look for the technology.
I like VAR but it takes a lot out of matches. For example, you have the jubilation of a goal and then a wait for the check, only for the goal to then be ruled out. Deflates the stadium and the viewing experience.
RE: OTHER FOOTBALL - Miscellaneous - Ska'dForLife-WBA - 28-12-2019
A brief history of the use of technology in football.
EVERYONE: Please can we have goal-line technology?
FIFA: No.
EVERYONE: Please can we have goal-line technology?
FIFA: No.
EVERYONE: Please can we have goal-line technology?
FIFA: No.
EVERYONE: Please can we have goal-line technology?
FIFA: No.
EVERYONE: Please can we have goal-line technology?
FIFA: Okay then.
EVERYONE: At last!
FIFA: Also, from now on we're going to use VAR to rule out any goal where the attacker has one stray pube in an offside position, we're going to make every controversial decision last for an extra five minutes and still be controversial at the end of it, we're going to have every single penalty taken five times, and no one will be able to celebrate a goal in the instant it's scored ever again.
EVERYONE: Wait, what? That's a terrible idea! Get rid of VAR!
FIFA: No.
EVERYONE: Get rid of VAR!
FIFA: No.
EVERYONE: Get rid of VAR!
FIFA: No.
EVERYONE: Get rid of VAR!
FIFA: No.
RE: OTHER FOOTBALL - Miscellaneous - Stairs - 28-12-2019
VAR is like a speed camera. In principle it’s a good thing Eg people should be nicked for speeding outside a school. But not when it’s 2am during the school holidays.
Offside is offside. I am fine with that even if it’s just by a pube. But then encroachment and other incidents needs a degree of common sense and, of course, this is the problem.
With all the technology and cameras we have there are still people feigning injury and diving and VAR is not used to retrospectively punish these, far more, offensive acts.
Plus we still have Wrighty and crew on MOTD defending these cheats (Harry Kane the latest) instead of pointing the finger and shaming them.
RE: OTHER FOOTBALL - Miscellaneous - Ska'dForLife-WBA - 28-12-2019
Nah, I disagree on offside. If a player is bodily in line with the defender, then he's on as far as I'm concerned. He gains no realistic competitive advantage from the tip of his big toe being millimetres beyond a defender's knee in a freeze-frame, and the net result of pretending otherwise is fewer goals overall, which is self-defeating for the sport as a whole.
RE: OTHER FOOTBALL - Miscellaneous - Stairs - 28-12-2019
(28-12-2019, 19:52)Ska\dForLife-WBA Wrote: Nah, I disagree on offside. If a player is bodily in line with the defender, then he's on as far as I'm concerned. He gains no realistic competitive advantage from the tip of his big toe being millimetres beyond a defender's knee in a freeze-frame, and the net result of pretending otherwise is fewer goals overall, which is self-defeating for the sport as a whole.
I understand your point. But at least with offside you can set rules and use technology to make an absolute decision, as per goal line technology.
I’d prefer it was not there but at least when you agree the definition of what offside is then the tech can make a very clean decision.
What I hate is that we capture so much visual data from all angles of the pitch and so can see cheating in all its despicable detail, yet we still can agree to retrospectively deal with this vermin.
RE: OTHER FOOTBALL - Miscellaneous - BaggieSteve - 29-12-2019
I just find VAR dispiriting. Was the game so unsatisfactory and refereeing decisions so poor & contentious prior to the introduction of VAR that we were just waiting for this technology to save the game? Not for me, the arguments and debate were part of its fabric. Sure, there were some glaring errors but they evened out; to go from those to calling an offside because a player has an elbow or a nose in advance of the defender seems ludicrous to me. I can’t help thinking that VAR is a technology looking for a problem to solve when we should have been coming at it from the other direction, namely asking what was wrong with the game and how do we best redress this. I’m fine with using it for line calls but that’s it - and by “line calls”, I mean was the ball over the line, not was the player offside. I’d rather the latter was left to the officials who, for the most part, were doing an excellent job prior to VAR. Anything beyond that strikes me as self defeating and comes into the realm of “why are you measuring that?”......”because I can, not because I need to”
RE: OTHER FOOTBALL - Miscellaneous - drewks - 29-12-2019
Mr Angry from Purley here.
Watching MOTD for the first time in months..... and it's confirmed to me that (top level) football is played and managed by egotistical, theatrical cheats who bleat and complain at anything that goes even slightly against them.
The players may be more skilful in a sense - well, it's an easier ball to play with nowadays innit - but the lack of allowed physical contact and the complete reluctance to take opponents on (remember dribbling with the ball?), the fact that 90% of passes are sideways or backwards..... WELL!
Hate it with a passion and would MUCH rather watch League 2 football and most other sports.
It really ain't the game I grew up with and played in for years, and loved.
Really sad to say all that.
There. Off to bed!!