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  HTAFC Prediction League 2021/22 Matchday 3
Posted by: Lord Snooty - 09-08-2021, 09:06 - Forum: Huddersfield Town - Replies (17)

2 points for a correct result
4 points for a correct score
2 points for each correct scorer
Correct joker doubles your score   Laugh    
Wrong joker result gives you minus 2
Correct Random Badger gives you 2 points Badger

The random badger Badger is used for any random prediction used once in each matchday sequence. For instance, a scorer at a particular match, the number of red cards in the matches or yellow cards or own goals or owt you want really within reason, I do need to be able to check whether it's correct or not. Please don't put stuff like....."Commentator says...."  Rolleyes
The joker  Laugh is played for one match in each sequence and if correct you get double points. So if you've predicted 1-0 and it finishes 2-0, you get 4 pts, but if you've predicted 2-0, that's 8 pts. But if you get it wrong, it's minus 2.
Jokers and badgers are optional. You don't have to play one if you don't want.


Cup games:
In the event of a draw, it's half the points if you've predicted a draw when it gets to 90 mins and the full points if it's still a draw after extra time. Half the points will be awarded for correctly predicting the winner of the match if it goes to penalties. Similarly with the badger, if your random prediction is affected by this, it'll be half the points.

Random score generator: I will be using the random score generator again for those who miss predicting, so we shouldn't get some people too far behind that after missing a couple of weeks they lose all interest, because I know it's not easy getting on here every week.
To be fair to everybody, this is going to be like, say if three people in one week miss their predictions, the first one in the table will be given all 0-0, the second one down the line will get 1-0 and the third will get 0-1 and so on, like if there's four missing the 4th will get 1-1, then 5th 2-1, 6th 1-2. and if there are so many missing, might as well pack in. Wink
And if you miss two weeks on the trot, I'll stop until you come back on again. Not doing it for half a season like I did t'other year.  Rolleyes

NEW FOR THIS SEASON: End of season Play Offs.

The one who finishes top of the league will still be champion, but after the season finishes there will be Play Offs between the top 4, with 1st v 4th and 2nd v 3rd. This will take in stuff like the EFL Play Offs, FA Cup Final, final day of Prima Donna League, European Finals etc. It will be one matchday for the semis and one for the Final. It will be the individual scores for each matchday against the allotted opponent, with some kind of tie breaker for a drawn match.
So last season's matches would've been Baggiebob(BBB) v theo_luddite and jjamez v St Charles Owl and would've given a bit more to play for towards the back end of the season.
The prize for winning will be enormous. Another rep point. Whistle

We now have an Appeals Committee set up, consisting of me, myself and I. All appeals must be made before the next Matchday kicks off.

Saturday 14th August:
Town v Fulham
Town scorers:
Fulham scorers:

Peterborough United v Derby County (12:30)
Barnsley v Coventry City
Birmingham City v Stoke City
Blackpool v Cardiff City
Hull City v Queens Park Rangers
Middlesbrough v Bristol City
Millwall v Blackburn Rovers
Nottingham Forest v AFC Bournemouth
Reading v Preston North End
West Bromwich Albion v Luton Town
Swansea City v Sheffield United (20:00)

Tuesday 17th August:
Town v Preston
Town scorers:
PNE scorers:

Barnsley v Luton Town
Blackpool v Coventry City
Millwall v Fulham
Peterborough United v Cardiff City
Swansea City v Stoke City
Reading v Bristol City

Wednesday 18th August:
Birmingham City v AFC Bournemouth
Hull City v Derby County
Middlesbrough v Queens Park Rangers
Nottingham Forest v Blackburn Rovers
West Bromwich Albion v Sheffield United


Table after Matchday 2:

  1. Amelia Chaffinch = 23 pts
  2. Lord Snooty = 19 pts
  3. ritchiebaby = 19 pts
  4. theo_luddite = 19 pts
  5. jjamez = 15 pts
  6. themaclad = 15 pts
  7. WakeyTerrier = 13 pts
  8. Baggiebob(BBB) = 12 pts
  9. SHEP_HTAFC = 12 pts
  10. St Charles Owl = 12 pts
  11. neonfoxinthebox = 7 pts

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  Celtic 6 Dundee 0 - Furuhashi "hat trick" and a star is born!
Posted by: 0762 - 08-08-2021, 19:07 - Forum: Celtic - Replies (1)

Celtic playing at home v a poor Dundee side all the same! But some of their football was exceptional and looking to score goals at every opportunity. Furuhashi actually looking like the dynamic CF that Celtic have been searching for in quite a while and "delivering the goods" with some cracking goals. This is certainly the kinda confidence boost that the Hoops will welcome. But there will clearly be bigger challenges ahead as Postecoglou continues to try and strengthen an evolving Celtic side with new additions to his player squad.

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  Mansfield Town v Preston North End Field Mill 10/8/21
Posted by: themaclad - 08-08-2021, 12:59 - Forum: Preston North End - Replies (3)

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Mansfield Town Football Club is a professional football club based in the town of Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England. The team competes in EFL League Two, the fourth tier of the English football league system. Nicknamed 'The Stags', they play in a blue and yellow kit. Since 1919, Mansfield have played at Field Mill, which is now an all-seater stadium with a capacity of 9,186. Their main rivals are Chesterfield and Notts County.

The club was formed in 1897 as Mansfield Wesleyans and entered the Mansfield & District Amateur League in 1902, before changing its name to Mansfield Wesley and joining the Notts & District League in 1906. They then finally became Mansfield Town in 1910, and moved from the Notts & Derbyshire League to the Central Alliance the following year. Crowned Alliance champions in 1919–20, they joined the Midland League in 1921 and would win this league on three occasions – 1923–24, 1924–25 and 1928–29 – before they were admitted into the Football League in 1931. They were relegated out of the Third Division in 1960, but won promotion out of the Fourth Division in 1962–63, remaining in the third tier for nine seasons until their relegation in 1972. They reached the Second Division for the first time after winning the Fourth Division title in 1974–75 and the Third Division title in 1976–77, only to suffer two relegations in three seasons.

Promoted out of the Fourth Division under the stewardship of Ian Greaves in 1985–86, they went on to win the Football League Trophy in 1986–87. Mansfield were however relegated in 1991 and promoted again in 1991–92, only to suffer an immediate relegation the following season. They won promotion once again in 2001–02, but were relegated to League Two in 2003 and lost their Football League status with a further relegation in 2008. They spent five seasons in the Conference until they were promoted back into the Football League after winning the Conference in 2012–13 following investment from new club owner John Radford.

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https://www.mansfieldtown.net/

LAST TIME OUT

MANSFIELD TOWN 2 BRISTOL ROVERS 1



Managerial career
Burton Albion
In October 1998, he moved into management when he accepted the role of player-manager at Burton Albion in the Southern Football League Premier Division.[citation needed]

Having passed his 32nd birthday, Clough was still registered as a player which possibly explained his apparent lack of ambition to move into League management (his father bitterly lamented the premature curtailment of his own playing career). However, Clough had not played regularly for Burton since the early stages of the 2005–06 season, though he did play in the team's 6–3 win over Sutton Coldfield Town in the Birmingham Senior Cup on 27 October 2008.[16] His final senior appearance for Burton came in the league against Droylsden on 12 February 2008,[17] his only appearance of the season.[18]

In January 2006, Burton, then in the Conference, held Manchester United to a 0–0 draw in the third round of the FA Cup. The United team featured Ole Gunnar Solskjær and Louis Saha, with Cristiano Ronaldo and Wayne Rooney introduced as second-half substitutes.[19] Burton midfielder Chris Hall said: "After the match, the press were buzzing... but we had a local cup game, against Stourbridge, I think, and the gaffer only wanted to focus on that.... With his playing career, he was used to the publicity... It was brilliant and it was quite a breath of fresh air, but at the same time, the gaffer kept us grounded".[20] In the replay at Old Trafford, Burton were beaten 5–0, but earned a reported £600,000 in the process.[21]

Clough won the Conference Premier Manager of the Month for December 2008, after completing 11 straight wins in the division and guiding Burton to 13 points clear at the top of the table.[22]

Derby County
On 5 January 2009 he was officially approached by Derby County, one of the clubs his father had previously managed, to take over as their manager as a replacement for Paul Jewell.[23] He was appointed the next day,[24] prior to his taking charge, on 8 January,[25] Academy Head Coach David Lowe guided Derby to a victory over Manchester United 1–0 in the first leg of the League Cup semi-final.[26] Clough's first victory in charge of The Rams came on 31 January 2009, when Derby beat Coventry City 2–1. Results improved after Clough's arrival, with a run of four consecutive wins. However, a series of injuries to key players saw a loss of form for the Rams. Safety in the Championship was not confirmed until the penultimate game of the season against Charlton Athletic, with a 1–0 victory.[citation needed]

Clough's first full season in charge of Derby saw significant changes to the playing staff as he brought in nine players and moved on fourteen as well as making substantial dealings in the loan market. Despite this, the Rams again struggled with injuries, at one point being without thirteen first team players. When key players returned from injury, Clough was able to start picking a regular team, and results began to improve. Derby finished two points and four places better off than the previous campaign.[27]

Clough was involved in several altercations during the season. He was accused by counterpart Billy Davies of kicking him in the knee in a pitch side altercation during Derby's 1–0 victory over local rivals Nottingham Forest. Clough denied the claim and, though Davies put in an official complaint to the league, nothing came of the incident.[28]

Clough was also in trouble again when he was sent to the stands during Derby's 3–1 home defeat to Ipswich Town on 5 April. He was fined £1,000 and given a one match ban, which he served during Derby's final match of the campaign at home to Cardiff City.[29] Clough also gave himself some game time during the course of the season, coming on as a late substitute for the reserve side in their 2–1 victory over West Bromwich Albion reserves in their Central League Central Section clash.[30]

Derby suffered a major shock in the FA Cup, losing to Crawley Town 2–1. The result saw Clough's job at the club reportedly come under threat,[31] as he issued an apology to the club's supporters,[32] many of whom responded with demands for his dismissal.[33] Derby's Chief Executive Tom Glick answered fan's concerns by reiterating the club's support for Clough, saying: "Nigel is absolutely our guy. We have been clear about that continuously."[34]

During Derby's post-November struggles Clough came under focus for his consistent criticism of individual players,[35] which came to a head when he strongly criticised Tomasz Cywka after his mistake led to a late Portsmouth equaliser in a 1–1 draw at Fratton Park. Of Cywka, Clough said: "He's an extremely inexperienced and not very bright footballer... he can go back to Wigan or wherever he came from – I'm not really bothered – until he learns the game." These incidents led PFA Chief Gordon Taylor to criticise Clough, saying: "It cannot be appropriate to criticise your team in such a way in public. We'll sort things out... otherwise it looks an untenable situation."[36] Ultimately, nothing came of the incident but the outbursts, coupled with Derby's poor results on the pitch, led to some unrest among supporters. Clough's players were booed at the end of a 3–1 home defeat against Doncaster Rovers on 1 March 2011.[37]

Clough's continuing stay at the club was rewarded by overseeing Derby's best start to the season in 106 years as they opened the season with four victories from four and earned a Championship Manager of the Month nomination.[38]

A 1–1 draw with Barnsley on 28 September 2011 took Derby into second place and the automatic promotion spots for the first time in over a year. The results came during discussions over Clough's contract – which was due to expire at the end of the season[39] with Forest allegedly interested in securing their former-player's services.[40] Despite these reports however, there was no evidence that Clough and his staff were looking to go elsewhere and Clough entered into new contract discussions with Derby, stating "It has never been a question of if we wanted to stay or not. This is where our heart is."[41]

Clough signed a new three-year deal, to take him through until summer 2015, on 17 October, two days after a 1–1 draw with league leaders Southampton had kept Derby in the play-off places.[42] After signing the deal, Derby took just four points from their next five fixtures and slipped out of the playoff places. A 3–2 defeat at Peterborough United, after Derby had held a 2–0 lead, saw Clough hit out at the officials and the FA imposed a £2,000 fine on him.[43]

Derby suffered mixed form through the remainder of the season. By mid-April Derby found themselves 11th in the table, 5 points off the play-offs with four games remaining.[44] However, two defeats to Middlesbrough and Cardiff City in 4 days ended Derby's play-off chances. Derby finished the season 12th in the league, with Clough satisfied with the performances of the team, stating that a lack of firepower was the reason why they fell short and that it would be an area to improve on in the following season.[45]

The club also finally ended their interest in appointing a director of football,[46] something the club had been considering since May 2011.[47] This meant Clough retained control of the club's player recruitment policy and he was keen to add to his squad.[48] On the final match of the 2012–13 season, a 1–0 victory over Millwall helped Derby to finish the campaign in 10th place.[49]

After a mixed start to the 2013–14 season, Clough was sacked on 28 September after 3 defeats in eight days, the final of which was a 1–0 defeat to local rivals Nottingham Forest with Derby 14th in the table after 9 games.[50][51] He left the club as the longest serving Derby manager in over a decade.

Sheffield United
On 23 October 2013, Clough was appointed new manager of Sheffield United on a two-and-a-half-year deal.[52] Clough's tenure got off to a winning start as Sheffield United comfortably beat Crewe Alexandra 3–1 at Bramall Lane.[53] Clough was named League One's Manager of the Month for February 2014 after an improved run of form with four wins from five matches, including four clean sheets.[54]

On 9 March 2014, Clough's side beat Charlton Athletic 2–0 to set up an FA Cup semi-final tie against Hull City at Wembley, this was United's ninth consecutive win in all competitions with United climbing out of the League One relegation zone up to 11th in the table.[55] In May 2014, Clough was named FA Cup Manager of the Season by the League Managers Association in recognition of United's run to the semi-finals of the FA Cup.[56] Clough also led the Blades to the semi-finals of the League Cup in the 2014–15 season after a 1–0 win over Southampton at Bramall Lane.[57] Sheffield United parted company with Clough on 25 May 2015.[58]

Return to Burton Albion
Clough returned to Burton Albion for a second spell as manager in December 2015, after Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink left the post to join Queens Park Rangers.[59] Clough led the club to a 2nd place finish at the end of the season, gaining the club promotion to the Championship for the first time in their history. Clough kept the side in the league for two seasons before the club was relegated back to League One in May 2018 after a 23rd place finish. Clough later stepped down as manager in May 2020 due to the financial impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on the club.[60]

Mansfield Town
On 6 November 2020, Clough was appointed as manager of Mansfield Town.[61]

LAST MEETING

PRESTON NORTH END 4 MANSFIELD TOWN 0




MACS VIEW
After yesterday's clunker suspect we will put out a stronger than usual side in this one, with three isolating squad is already weakened and yesterday's hammering was a major wake up call. Compared to last seasons stroll against teh Stags, this is a different match altogether. They have a savvy manager who will be out to win this one, have a feeling they will.
I am going on Tuesday night to reaquaint myself with the celestial delight that is Field Mill, bit different to when I last went three new stands actually looks a decent grond although the stand across from the main stand is still shut.Never seemed to be away from the place in the 80/90's however one memorable fternoon stands out
29 March 1986 we won 3-2 at Field Mill, it was the season we finished next to the bottom, it poured down that day and when I mean poured it was non stop, if memory serves me right we were 2 up and the home side who were pushing for promotion levelled before possibly the worst footballer ever to don a white shirt Vernon Allot shinned home the winner deep into injury time, the scenes from the drenched away end were memorable that day.

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  Prediction League 21/22 Fixtures Week 1
Posted by: Zinman - 07-08-2021, 20:05 - Forum: West Bromwich Albion - Replies (21)

Quick recap of the rules and scoring for our newcomers and those with short memories.
10 fixtures to predict each week with scoring as follows:

Incorrect score: 0 points
Incorrect score with the bonus: -3 points
Incorrect score with the gamball: -3 points

Correct result: 2 points
Correct result with the bonus: 3 points
Correct result with the gamball: 5 points

Correct score: 4 points
Correct score with the bonus: 6 points
Correct score with the gamball: 10 points

Score ball played on a match where both teams score: 1 point

Now to those balls.
The gamball: One game will be selected by us each week to be the gamball game. You have the choice whether to play the gamball - if you do please add Doh or G or "Gamball" with your prediction.
The bonus: You must play this ball on one of the other 9 matches (not the gamball match) by adding Smartass or B with your selected prediction. Failure to play a bonus will result in a deduction of 3 points.
The scoreball: Play this on any match except the gamball game where you think both sides will score by adding Tongue or S after your selected prediction. There is no penalty for getting it wrong so it's a free shot - if you don't play it you just miss out on an extra point.

So to sum up - Gamball only on the selected game, your choice whether to play it. Bonus on any other game - must be played. Scoreball on any other game. You can play the bonus and scoreball on the same game, just put both symbols.

A tip for any newcomers - try to get your predictions in early. SCO and I may have the chance (not guaranteed) to check that you've got it right and get back to you - please keep an eye on the thread and your private messages. If you post on Saturday morning we won't be able to check as we'll be tucked up in bed (not together obviously, well, probably not).

If anyone edits their score after an initial post, please let us know. All predictions must be in before the game kicks off or your prediction will be void.

Now for the fixtures:

Gamball Game
Nottingham Forest - Bournemouth

Other Games
Watford - Aston Villa
Leicester - Wolves
Blackpool - Cardiff
Birmingham - Stoke
Barnsley - Coventry
Huddersfield - Fulham
Swansea - Sheff Utd
Sheff Wed - Doncaster
Newcastle - West Ham

Good Luck

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  Hibs v Ross County, Sun 8 Aug, KO 3.00pm
Posted by: 0762 - 06-08-2021, 16:28 - Forum: Hibernian - Replies (7)

We'll see how Hibs fare after their sterling efforts v Rijeka on Thurs night. Hopefully our fine form will continue to deliver another 3 pts "in the bag". C'mon Hibs!

GGTTH

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  Seasonal thoughts
Posted by: jjamez - 06-08-2021, 01:43 - Forum: Huddersfield Town - Replies (4)

So with the league campaign just about upon us, a few questions.

Which town player will be our player of the season?

Which town player will be the surprise package this season?

Who will fail to meet expectations?

Which town players progress have you got an eye on?

Where will we finish?

As for the rest of the league.

Who is going to earn promotion?

Who is going to sink to league one?

Which team will be the dark horses this term?

Who is going to surprise for the wrong reasons?

Which player have you an eye on/ looking forward to watching/ is going to be the player of the season?

Same again but for a young player?

And finally, who is going to be the first manager sacked?

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  Bournemouth vs WBA - Match Thread
Posted by: Ska'dForLife-WBA - 05-08-2021, 21:36 - Forum: West Bromwich Albion - Replies (19)

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As the country's routine slowly returns to normal, and the football calendar rights itself with the familiar August start replacing last year's tardy September kick-off, there's an irresistible sense that the world is healing, and the natural order of things gradually reasserting itself. Certainly, that feeling is all the more inescapable after a glance at Albion's summer transfer business, which - in keeping with hallowed tradition - somewhat lacks the urgency that might have been desired after spending last season encamped in the basement of the Premier League. To shore up the central defence, Matt Clarke is in from Brighton (or more accurately Derby, where he spent two seasons on loan); Alex Mowatt and Adam Reach provide midfield options, while Portuguese teenager Quevin Castro has also been recruited, presumably because Quevin Queegan wasn't available. Whether that'll be enough, there's no telling yet; but there'll certainly be no dodging the limelight for Albion on their Championship return, as our opening match at Bournemouth will also be the curtain-raiser for the whole domestic season. Charity Shield, eat your heart out.

It's our first meeting with the south coast side in over three years, and our past visits bear few happy memories; our last league win in those parts was in 1993, and even cup encounters haven't given us much joy. But as the new man at the helm, Valerian has the tools and the objective. All we can do, for our part, is make sure he has the support.

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  Random Philosophical Question
Posted by: Devongone - 05-08-2021, 16:12 - Forum: Abstract Chat - No Replies

A neighbour sports a large carrier bag with the prominent label RANDOM CRAP.

If she puts stuff in it, do those objects cease to be "random crap" as she has chosen to put them in there and thus invalidate its label?

Equally if she searched her house for objects full of meaning and value and consigned them to the bag, would they immediately become "random crap" and thus perhaps fool any potential burglar?

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  Prediction League 2021/22
Posted by: Zinman - 04-08-2021, 03:47 - Forum: West Bromwich Albion - Replies (24)

Ok, it’s that time of year again. Time to forget about the latest multi- million pound Albion transfer and instead turn your thoughts to the incomparable WBA Sportsbabble Prediction League.

If there’s sufficient interest out there, SCO and myself are willing to give up hours of our time to give you seconds of moderate entertainment (a bit like watching Wednesday) once again. If there is sufficient interest, we’ll start the new season’s league from next week, August 14thish. If you are happy to play again, or want to join in this fun packed jamboree, please confirm by replying to this post - feel free to invite friends, family, lovers, drunken acquaintances, Villa fans - we don’t care ( except for the Villa fans bit, obviously).
If you took part last year but can’t face the thought of another year’s humiliation, please also let us know that you prefer to drop out.
Rules and scoring will stay the same as last year as I’m not prepared to mess with my massively complicated spreadsheets.

This seasons line-ups:

Premier League
BBB - In
St Charles - In
Sanjay - In
Lord Snooty - In
Bomber
AAA - In
Derby - In
Minizin - In
BaggieOne - In
Silver - In

Championship
Amelia - In
Themaclad - In
Twerton - In
Somerset
Stairs - In
Zinman - In
DD - In
Joker
Lady Jane - In
SalopBaggie - In
Blue Baggie  - In

As per previous seasons, any new players will go into the Championship and depending on how many take part this season we may have to balance out the leagues but hopefully everyone is on board again.

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  Wayne County v The Town Terriers
Posted by: Lord Snooty - 03-08-2021, 21:57 - Forum: Huddersfield Town - Replies (44)

Derby County v Huddersfield Town
The Sky Bet Championship
Saturday August 7th - 15:00 ko
at the Pride Park Stadium


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Huddersfield Town travel to Derby to the Pride Park Stadium on Saturday afternoon for the first league match of what promises to be another roller coaster of a season.

The Rams are in a bit of a predicament at the moment. Their manager, Wayne Rooney has been whining on about them only having nine senior players on the books, which is a load of tosh. Their own website has 18 listed and they have loads of trialists playing in their pre season games, including our very own Richard Stearman.

The Terriers will go there full of confidence following a magnificent goal less draw at Hillsborough on Sunday, with a much steadier looking defence than last season. Well it couldn't be as bad as last season when we had the leakiest defence in the Championship. At the back, it looks like Lee Nicholls will get the nod ahead of Ryan Schofield, following his shoot out heroics against the Wendy.

The rest of the starting line up? Well if it's goals we're lacking, Fraizer Campbell should be back in contention, but I suspect Danny Ward will get the starting slot again, with Jordan Rhodes on the bench. But Carlos Corberán never does what I expect him to do, so he could make eleven changes for all I know.



'Ow Much?!

Tickets for the game have gone straight on general sale for Town fans, with tickets in the upper and lower tiers of the away end available at the ridiculous prices of......

Adults - £28
Over-65s - £21
18-21-year-olds - £21
13-17-year-olds - £14
6-12-year-olds - £7
2-5-year-olds – FREE (must be purchased with a parent or guardian)

All children under 13 must be accompanied by someone 18 or over. Children under 2 are not permitted to enter at Derby County.

THERE WILL NOT BE ANY PAY ON THE DAY.



A brief history of Derby County: formed in 1884 by Derbyshire County Cricket Club, were due to be named Derbyshire County, but decided to leave it as just Derby County. They started out playing on the cricket ground and in 1888 they were one of the 12 founding members of the Football League. They moved into the Baseball Ground in 1895 which would be their home for 102 years. They never won the league in those early years, but did come runners up in 1896. They didn't win the FA Cup either, but reached 3 finals, the third of which, a 0-6 defeat to Bury, was the greatest losing margin in a final until Watford equalled it in 2019. They were relegated in the following year, winning promotion back again in 1911. Down again in 1914, winning promotion straight back again, of course having to wait til after the war to play again in the 1st division.

In those early years, Steve Bloomer played for the club, scoring a club record 331 goals, a record that still stands.

Down and up again in the 1920s, they almost got success in the 30s, but had to settle for runners up again twice. But after the 2nd World War in 1946 they finally won their first major trophy, winning the FA Cup with a 4-1 win over Charlton Athletic in the Final. Peter Doherty, who would join Town in the next season, scored one of the Derby goals. They had some more high end finishes in the league in the rest of the decade, but went down again in 1953. Two years later they dropped down to the 3rd division for the first time, coming back up again in 1957.

Then in 1967, they appointed Brian Clough and Peter Taylor as their management team. This was the dawn of their most successful era. Under Cloughie, they won promotion to division 1 in 1969, finishing 4th in their first season back and then in 1972 they won their first ever Football League title. They pipped Leeds Utd to the title by one point, highlighting one of the great rivalries of the time between Clough and Don Revie.

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The Rams reached the semis of the European Cup in the following season, losing to Juventus. Unfortunately for Derby and their supporters, Clough was such a controversial and outspoken character that he was always having run ins with the board of directors and so despite all their success, Clough and Taylor were sacked in October 1973.

It wasn't an immediate fall for the club though and under the management of former club captain Dave Mackay, they won the League again in 1975. But as Clough went on to major success with local rivals Nottingham Forest, it was a downward spiral for County, being relegated in 1980 and then again to the 3rd division in 1983. They almost went out of business, but were bought out by another controversial figure, corrupt businessman Robert Maxwell.

Maxwell appointed Arthur Cox as manager, who led the Rams back up to the top tier with two quick promotions and by the end of the 80s they were as high as 5th in the League. Maxwell was all over the news back then and just before his mysterious death in 1991, he had handed over the club to Lionel Pickering. The club had been relegated again though by this time. They reached the 1994 Play Offs, only to lose in the Final to Leicester City. Jim Smith took them up two years later though as runners up, to play for the first time in the Premier League.

At the start of the 1997/98 season, Derby moved from the Baseball Ground into Pride Park, but despite a couple of top ten finishes, they were relegated again in 2002. They lost in the 2005 Play Offs to Preston, but with former PNE boss Billy Davies in charge they won the 2007 Final 1-0 against West Brom with a goal from Stephen Pearson. It didn't go well in the Premier League. Davies left after a poor start to be replaced by Paul Jewell, who led them to the lowest points total in top flight history, a total that even our brave boys managed to beat when we got relegated. Whistle

Since that relegation they have made the Play Offs five times without success, although the 2019 beating of Leeds United gave us all a good laugh. However they lost in the Final to Aston Villa.

Last season they only just avoided relegation and were still in danger of going down weeks after the season ended due to possible EFL sanctions regarding breaches of financial fair play regulations, which they got away with, much to the annoyance of Wycombe Wanderers.

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Head to Head

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Derby lead the head to head with 41 wins to Town's 30, with 27 draws.

Last season we played the Rams at home in October, the 6th match of the season. Wayne Rooney was missing for them due to one of his contacts having a positive Covid test. He had been the set piece taker ever since joining them and it showed as none of their team knew how to kick a ball. So it was Juninho Bacuna who won the game with a magnificent team move from back to front to give us a 53rd minute lead, which we managed to hang on to. The away game came in February and was one of the worst Terriers performance of the season as we get beat 2-0. Their goals came from George Edmundson and Martyn Waghorn, with Jaden Brown getting a late red card for two yellows.

The previous season started with a home game against the Rams, live on Monday Night Football on Sky Sports, and we got beat 1-2. Carrying on from our relegation from the Premier League, our lads decided to give Tom Lawrence the space to perform like a Prima Donna League player and easily give Derby an early 2-0 lead. Karlan Grant got us one back late on from the penalty spot. We did manage a point down at theirs though. Lawrence again on the score sheet for them, with a late equaliser coming from Harry Toffolo, registering his first goal for us.

The game at Pride Park towards the end of the promotion season got off to a great start with Collin Quaner giving the Terriers an early lead. We had to settle for a single point though as the much berated Jacob Butterfield levelled late on. The home game that season though was a terrific three points for the Town with Elias Kachunga nodding home a cross in injury time to give us a 1-0 win and send David Wagner on one of his famous runs down the touchline to celebrate with the players.

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Quaner. One-nil!


The season before that, Derby did the double over us. The season before that one though saw a remarkable 4-4 draw at the JSS, with Tom Ince scoring the first and last goals of the match. Unfortunately he was a Derby player then and scored more at our ground that day than he did during his season here as a Terrier. Also on target for them that day was a young lad called Jesse Lingard.

We have played eight times at Pride Park and those Quaner and Toffolo earned points are all we have to show from our visits there. The first visit there was for an FA Cup replay back in 1999. They were a Premier League team then and after the first match at home, which was a 2-2 draw, with Chris Beech and Marcus Stewart on target for us, we went there and Beech (the current Carlisle Utd manager) gave us an early lead. Unfortunately, we couldn't hold on and Derby ended up winning it 3-1.

That was the only FA Cup meeting. We have met twice in the League Cup, with both clubs having one win each. Terry Gray scored in 1975 against the league champions for 4th division Town in a narrow 1-2 defeat. But we won 2-1 in 2003 in the second match of the second Peter Jackson era. We were back in the basement league and they were in the Championship, with Jon Stead and Jon Thorrington grabbing our goals at the John MacAlpharm Stadium.

Back in 1971/72, Derby were the last team we beat in the season. The fact that that was in November would suggest it wasn't a good season! It was indeed a poor one, but for Derby, it would be their first ever League title, while we went down. Jimmy Lawson and Frank Worthington scored for us in a 2-1 win at Leeds Road. Cloughie's Rams won the re-match at the Baseball Ground 3-0 in April. Typical Town, we beat the champions and also beat runners up Leeds that season.

This will be the 95th league meeting of the two teams, so you can tell that we have had many a season together. The first season we shared a league table with them was our first Football League season in 1910/11 and Derby County were our 6th ever opponent. That was a 1-1 draw away with Gordon Burniston scoring the only league goal of his three match Town career. We lost the home game 0-3 and it wouldn't be until 1920/21 before we got our first victory over them, when we met up for the first time in Division One. That was a 2-0 win at Leeds Road with goals from William Wright and Jack Swann.

One more outstanding game to mention. It was in 1931/32 and a 6-0 win for the Terriers. Goal machine Dave Mangnall scored five of the goals that day, a feat that has only been matched by a Town player twice since by Alf Lythgoe in 1935 and Jordan Rhodes in 2012.

It has been well documented that it has been a hell of a long time since Town won in Derby. So long ago, I wasn't even born. And I'm ancient! It was in 1957, but it was a big win. We won 4-2 at the Baseball Ground with two goals from footballing legend Denis Law, and one each from Les Massie and Ron Simpson. We've been back 25 times since without coming back with a victory. This has to go down as a great chance to stop that run, due to the fact that they are in turmoil and we are on the brink of a new era of greatness. Whistle

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So what's going on down Brian Clough Way? Managed nowadays by little known, shy and retiring Wayne Rooney, who scored a few goals in his day. He was born in Liverpool 35 years ago and grew up as an Everton fan. He joined the Everton Academy and made it to the first team before he was 17, scoring against Arsenal and becoming the youngest goalscorer of the Premier League era. That was subsequently beaten by future Town legend James Vaughan, also for Everton.

He then went and had a few games for Man Utd and England before returning to Goodison in 2017, at which time he realised his biggest personal ambition by playing on the hallowed turf of the John Smith's Stadium against Huddersfield Town. But after only one season back chewing Toffees, he crossed the Atlantic to go and play for DC United.

He was tempted back to England by a massive bung from a betting company to join the corrupt crew currently masquerading as Derby County. He played a season and a bit for them, turning out at Pride Park against us in the 1-1 draw, the game when Harry Toffolo scored. But when they came to ours in the next season, poor old Wayne had had a touch of the covids and so missed out on making another appearance on the world's greatest football stage.

Shortly after, he took on the manager's role after Philip Cocu had been sacked, and decided to hang up his boots. In the time since, he has become Derby's worst manager since Paul Jewell and made the headlines once more by falling asleep in an hotel and having photos of himself asleep being splashed across social media. Oooh, naughty boy, Wayne. Confused

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Who's in their squad then? Up until the 20th of July, they only had 9 senior players under contract (despite their own website having 18 listed at the time). Rooney cried about it to the EFL, who duly made up a new ruling in Derby's favour that allowed them to sign out of contract players, despite the fact that they were under a transfer embargo. Those players listed at the time were.......

David Marshall, Andre Wisdom, Craig Forsyth, Graeme Shinnie, Krystian Bielik, Kamil Jóźwiak, Max Bird, Tom Lawrence, Nathan Byrne, Colin Kazim-Richards, Louie Sibley, Kelle Roos, Lee Buchanan, Curtis Davies, Kornell McDonald, Jason Knight, Jack Stretton, Louie Watson.

One of the out of contract players Rooney has been looking at is ex Town defender Richard Stearman. He has been training with the Rams recently and was on the bench when they beat Notts County in a pre season friendly at the weekend. Also training with Rooney's Rams have been Phil Jagielka, Sone Aluko, Ravel Morrison and Sam Baldock.

If Derby can't be arsed producing their books for proper scrutinisation, I can't be arsed doing any write ups on any of them.  Dodgy

Oh go on then. Goalkeepers David Marshall and Kelle Roos were so bad that the previous manager had to get Ben Hamer in on loan from us for a season. Marshall is of course, the Scottish number one at the moment. Yes that one who got lobbed from the halfway line in the Euros by Patrik Schick of the Czech Republic. Roos isn't one of the Socceroos. He's Dutch and has been at Derby for 7 years now.

Nathan Byrne is a defender they got from Wigan in 2020, taking advantage of the perilous state the Latics were in at the time. Out of one crooked place to another, eh! Anyway, he started at Spurs, never played for them, ended up at Wigan via Wolves and a few various loans.

Craig Forsyth is a Scottish defender/midfielder with 4 international caps to his name, who started out with Dundee. He moved to Watford where he was so highly rated that they sent him out on loan to Bradford City. Never mind, it didn't completely ruin his career. He left Vicarage Road to arrive at Pride Park in 2013 and he's still there.

Lee Buchanan is another defender. He's 20 years old, came through the Academy and played 15 Championship games last season.

In midfield they have Graeme Shinnie, who famously led Inverness Caledonian Thistle to Scottish Cup glory in 2015. That Cup Final at Hampden was his last match for Caley as he left for Aberdeen, leaving for Derby four years later. He also has a few Scottish caps. Six of them.

Jason Knight, a 20 year old midfielder who already has 7 international caps for the Republic of Ireland, won't be selected for this game. Rooney, just after complaining about having a player shortage, went and crocked the poor lad in training. He's out for six months. Doh

The club captain is Tom Lawrence, who has caused us pain in the past. He's a Welsh international who started out at Man Utd and arrived in Derby via Leicester and a load of loans out to far flung places like Carlisle and Yeovil.

Colin Kazim-Richards is a Turkish international, despite being born in that there London. He's 34 years old now and having started out at Bury, he hasn't half clocked up some air miles in the time since, with Derby being the 17th club he has turned out for. He arrived there in October last year and finished the season as their top scorer.


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Colin Kazim-Richards

Club connections:

Mark Lillis: made his Town debut as an 18 year old away at Newport County in 78/79. I remember it well, I was there, my first away game on my own. He played in midfield that day, but in the 234 games he played for us, he played in every department of the team, including goalkeeper! That first season had him playing 11 times under Mick Buxton as Town rallied from the foot of the 4th division. He strangely didn't feature at all in the next season, not even on the bench as we won the 4th division title.

He was back in the side half way through the next season though, scoring his first Town goal in December in a 2-2 draw down at Fulham and then going in goal in an FA Cup defeat at home to Shewsbury when Andy Rankin got injured. He scored 7 goals that season from midfield and another 6 in the season after that. But the following season, after the retirement of Ian Robins, Steve Kindon and Peter Fletcher, Lillis was moved up into attack and scored 20 goals as a super striker and partner to Colin Russell, as Town won promotion to division 2. He had a super spell in Oct/Nov 82 when he scored 9 goals in 4 games, including all 4 in a home victory over Cardiff City.

He then scored our first goal back in the 2nd division (now called Championship) in a 2-2 draw at Blackburn. That was the first of 14 for him that season, with another 16 to follow in the next one. But then in the summer of 1985, he was sold to the club he supported as a boy, Manchester City. Just one season at Maine Road, but he still finished top scorer with 12 goals, before being sold on again, this time to Derby County. It wasn't a very good time for him there, injured for most of the season, playing only 15 times and just the one goal. He was then sold on again, this time to Aston Villa. He had two seasons there, not pulling any trees up and then his career sort of faded away at places like Scunthorpe, Stockport and Macclesfield.

It was at Macclesfield that he went into coaching. Then it was back to one of his former clubs Scunthorpe as assistant manager. This was followed by a couple of years as manager of Halifax Town before going back to Derby as assistant to John Gregory. When Gregory got the boot in March 2003, our Mark took charge as caretaker manager for a short while before George Burley took over. He didn't stay with Burley, instead went to be assistant to Sammy McIlroy in the Northern Ireland job and then followed him to be his assistant at Stockport. And he followed him again to Morecambe before coming home to Huddersfield to be Academy manager.

At Town he had 4 spells as caretaker manager after the sackings of Lee Clark, Simon Grayson, Mark Robins and Chris Powell. One of his games in charge was a 0-3 defeat at Pride Park against Derby and another was the FA Cup tie against Leicester City when he gave a first team debut to Jordan Sinnott.

He went with Gregory, miles away from Huddersfield and Derby, to India, in the Indian Super League side Chennaiyin FC, where he was his assistant for a couple of years. But at the start of last season he came back home and rejoined Scunny again, as second in command to Neil Cox.


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Richard Keogh: came to us as a 21 year old on loan from Bristol City in 2007. He started well as Town won 2-1 down at Millwall on his debut. But then we lost at Grimsby 1-4 in the FL Trophy. He made his home debut in a 2-3 defeat to Cheltenham Town. It was probably the worst Town home debut I've ever seen, he was truly awful, but then in the 90th minute he scored with a 40 yard screamer to set up a big finish that never happened. During his short time here we lost to footballing giants like Northampton Town, Walsall, Doncaster Rovers and Tranmere Rovers and so he was sent back to Bristol. He was sent out on loan again to Carlisle Utd and then Cheltenham, and then signed permanently for Carlisle. After that he had a couple of seasons at Coventry before ending up at Derby in 2012.

He became club captain when he signed on at Pride Park and in the time since then he has led his team mates through five failed Play Off campaigns. The 19/20 season started well for him skippering his side at our place as they won 2-1, but his Derby career and possibly his whole career suddenly came to a dramatic end after 365 appearances. Following a "team-building dinner" he and some of his team mates were involved in a car crash for which Tom Lawrence and Mason Bennett were charged with drink-driving. Keogh suffered a knee injury which ruled him out for 15 months and he was sacked as a subsequence of his responsibility in the crash, a decision which was upheld by a tribunal. However, he has since won an appeal against it and got a £2m payout.

So where next for this calamitous clot? Well after a lengthy injury, he made a comeback with the MK Dons last season. He made 21 appearances for them and then surprised everybody by turning up back at our place. He was truly awful once again and thankfully after playing 21 times for us, he was released at the end of the season. If now at the age of 34, he decides to hang up his boots, it will end at 673 appearances with 25 goals. Add his 26 international games to that and he needs one more for 700, which shouldn't be long off as he has now signed for newly promoted Championship side Blackpool.


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Duane Holmes: first signed on at the Huddersfield Town Academy as an 8 year old. He was born in the USA to an American father and an English mother, though from the age of 4 he was living in the Wakefield area with his mother.

He made his Town debut in a League Cup match at Hull in 2013 (as a sub) and then his league debut, again from the bench, setting up the equaliser for James Vaughan in a 1-1 draw at home to Blackpool. He made his full debut in a famous 3-2 home win over Leeds United, though he was subbed off at half time.

He was sent out on loan to Yeovil (then in the Championship) later on in that season, but came back after a couple of months and played five more times for Town. The following season he only played once for us before going on loan to Bury. That wasn't a good loan and he was sent back early, with questions being asked about his attitude, and didn't play again for Town that season. He wasn't finished with us yet though and the next season saw him score his only goal of his first stint for us in a 5-0 win at home to Charlton. Sadly though, it didn't kick start his Town career and at the end of the season he was released and joined Scunthorpe Utd. He got to the Play Offs twice with them, losing out to Millwall and Rotherham.

Then out of the blue, following a League 1 win against Coventry, Frank Lampard signed him for Derby County. He made 68 appearances for the Rams, including the brilliant Play Off semi final win at Bellend Road. He played the first 44 minutes of the match, being subbed in favour of Jack Marriott who came on and scored immediately, turning the tie on it's head.

He made his international debut in the summer of 2019, playing for the USA in friendlies against Jamaica and Venezuela. And then, following a fall out with yond pillock Rooney, he came back and rejoined us in January. He didn't set the world on fire, but he did score the Goal of the Season, with an absolute beauty against Swansea.


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Cecil Potter: had three seasons as Derby manager before coming to Town. He only managed us for one season, but in that season, 1925/26, he became only the second man to manage Huddersfield Town to the Football League title, after the famous Herbert Chapman had won the title for us in the previous two seasons. Obviously he inherited a magnificent team when he replaced Chapman, who had gone to Arsenal in the summer. And it was the Arsenal who finished 5 points behind the Thrice Champions as runners up.

He had to adapt his team to combat the new offside law, which had been adapted to encourage a higher scoring rate and it certainly worked for Town, scoring 92 in the league, as opposed to a mere 69 in the previous title winning season.

Cecil had been a goal scorer himself in his playing days and had been Norwich's leading scorer in a couple of pre war seasons. He also played for Ipswich, Hull and Hartlepools before taking up the role of player/manager at the Baseball Ground in 1922. There he took the 2nd division Rams to the FA Cup semi finals in 1923 and a couple of 3rd place finishes when only the top two went up.

After his one season at Town, he resigned due to ill health, which must have thankfully been brief because by December he had taken up the role of manager back at Norwich. It turned out later, when the minutes of Board meetings were released that he had actually been asked to leave with a severance fee of £400. No more details given.

He went on to live to 86 years old, pegging out in 1975.


Three other Town managers have Derby connections. Ted Magner came to Town just before the second world war as assistant to Clem Stephenson, after a short spell as manager of the Danish national team. He took over as the manager in 1942 and had a couple of years in charge of the wartime team before leaving to manage Derby. He was in charge of the Rams for the start of the 45/46 season when they went on to win the FA Cup for their one and only time, but by the time of the Final, he had left to join Metz in France. He was about to rejoin the Danes in 1947 but was taken seriously ill and died in Derby the following year, aged 57.

George Stephenson, brother of Clem, managed Town between 1947 and 52. Unfortunately for him, the club was hit hard during the post war years and his teams constantly struggled against relegation, eventually going down for the first time in our history shortly after he had resigned towards the back end of 51/52. Earlier, he had played four seasons for Derby between 1927 and 31, scoring 55 goals from 111 appearances.

Chris Powell managed Town for a season and a half between Mark Robins and David Wagner. His next job after us was at Derby as assistant to Nigel Pearson, but in his playing career he played 91 times for the Rams in the 90s.


Derby in popular culture: Struggling to find owt of significance. Derby was of course featured in the film The Damned United, a film mainly about dirty Leeds United but also featuring Brian Clough when he was at Derby County.



Actors Alan Bates, Michael Knowles, Kevin Lloyd and Gwen Taylor are all from Derby. Odd that Gwen is from Derby but has made a living out of playing professional Yorkshirewomen in programmes like Heartbeat, A Bit of a Do and here as Barbara Liversedge in Barbara.



Derby's celebrity supporters, according to Wikipedia, include Citizen Smith actor Robert Lindsay, former Labour MP, the Beast of Bolsover Dennis Skinner, One Direction singer Niall Horan, Blur guitarist Graham Coxon, adult film star and judge on Sex Factor, Keiran Lee, and actor Jack O'Connell from This is England. It has been reported that O'Connell has persuaded other celebrities to support the club, including actors George Clooney, Angelina Jolie, and model Cara Delevingne.


'ow to get theere an' wheere to sup: The post code for sat nav is DE24 8UX. Now that's not the stadium, but a designated away fans car park at the Conference Centre, which is 0.8 miles away and a 17 minute walk according to Google Maps. It'll cost you a fiver and there is an away fans pub right there called The Navigation, on London Road. If you get there early enough, there's free street parking near this pub.
If you're on the train, there's a few around the station, but mainly home fans only. The Station Inn on Midland Road seems to be your best bet.


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The Navigation on London Road

Other Championship matches this weekend:

Friday:
AFC Bournemouth v West Bromwich Albion

Saturday:
Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City
Bristol City v Blackpool
Cardiff City v Barnsley
Luton Town v Peterborough United
Preston North End v Hull City
Queens Park Rangers v Millwall
Stoke City v Reading
Sheffield United v Birmingham City (20:00)

Sunday:
Fulham v Middlesbrough (13:30)
Coventry City v Nottingham Forest (16:30)



Last Season's Leading scorers:

Terriers:
Josh Koroma (8)
Frazier Campbell (7)
Isaac Mbenza (5)
Juninho Bacuna (5)

Ramsbottoms:
Colin Kazim-Richards (8)
Martyn Waghorn (5)



August the 7th down the ages: How did we get on in previous matches played on this date?

1999: Queens Park Rangers (a) Div One (2nd tier), lost 1-3 (Clyde Wijnhard)
2004: Stockport County (a) Div One (2nd tier), WON 3-2 (Tony Carss, Andy Booth, Pawel Abbott)
2010: Notts County (a) League One (3rd tier), WON 3-0 (Anthony Pilkington 2, Jordan Rhodes)


Well obviously there haven't been many games this early. The first August match wasn't until after the war. But still a 66.66% win rate is a good one.

I went to all three of those games. How about you?


Derby County anagrams:

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  7. Janine Galileo 
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