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Derby County v Huddersfield Town
The Sky Bet Championship
Saturday 15th February - 15:00 ko
at Pride Park

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Huddersfield Town travel to play Derby County on Saturday afternoon to take on England's all time international record goal scorer, Wayne Rooney and ten other blokes. Hopefully we will have leading scorer Karlan Grant back, having missed the last two matches following a collision in training with Christopher Schindler. Little titchy Alex Pritchard is back in full training again and although he didn't make the squad for the Cardiff defeat on Wednesday, he could be at least on the bench for this. Will Danny Cowley make any wholesale changes after the dismal display at the JSS? We shall see.

Derby will be without their regular keeper, Ben Hamer, because he's still an employee of Huddersfield Town, so the likelihood is that Kelle Roos will be back between the sticks. They also lost on Wednesday night, 3-2 down at Bristol City, for whom Nahki Wells scored on his full debut. The Rams were three down before goals from Martyn Waghorn and Chris Martin got them back into it.

COME ON TOWN!!!



A brief history of Derby County: formed in 1884 by Derbyshire County Cricket Club, were due to be named Derbyshire County, but decided to leave it as just Derby County. They started out playing on the cricket ground and in 1888 they were one of the 12 founding members of the Football League. They moved into the Baseball Ground in 1895 which would be their home for 102 years. They never won the league in those early years, but did come runners up in 1896. They didn't win the FA Cup either, but reached 3 finals, the third of which, a 0-6 defeat to Bury, was the greatest losing margin in a final until Watford equalled it last year. They were relegated in the following year, winning promotion back again in 1911. Down again in 1914, winning promotion straight back again, of course having to wait til after the war to play again in the 1st division.

Down and up again in the 1920s, they almost got success in the 30s, but had to settle for runners up again twice. But after the 2nd World War in 1946 they finally won their first major trophy, winning the FA Cup with a 4-1 win over Charlton Athletic in the Final. Peter Doherty, who would join Town in the next season, scored one of the Derby goals. They had some more high end finishes in the league in the rest of the decade, but went down again in 1953. Two tears later they dropped down to the 3rd division for the first time, coming back up again in 1957.

Then in 1967, they appointed Brian Clough and Peter Taylor as their management team. This was the dawn of their most successful era. Under Cloughie, they won promotion to division 1 in 1969, finishing 4th in their first season back and then in 1972 they won their first ever Football League title. They pipped Leeds Utd to the title by one point, highlighting one of the great rivalries of the time between Clough and Don Revie. The Rams reached the semis of the European Cup in the following season, losing to Juventus. Unfortunately for Derby and their supporters, Clough was such a controversial and outspoken character that he was always having run ins with the board of directors and so despite all their success, Clough and Taylor were sacked in October 1973.

It wasn't an immediate fall for the club though and under the management of former club captain Dave Mackay, they won the League again in 1975. But as Clough went on to major success with local rivals Nottingham Forest, it was a downward spiral for County, being relegated in 1980 and then again to the 3rd division in 1983. They almost went out of business, but were bought out by another controversial figure, corrupt businessman Robert Maxwell.

Maxwell appointed Arthur Cox as manager, who led the Rams back up to the top tier with two quick promotions and by the end of the 80s they were as high as 5th in the League. Maxwell was all over the news back then and just before his mysterious death in 1991 he had handed over the club to Lionel Pickering. The club had been relegated again though by this time. They reached the 1994 Play Offs, only to lose in the Final to Leicester City. Jim Smith took them up two years later though as runners up, to play for the first time in the Premier League.

At the start of the 1997/98 season, Derby moved from the Baseball Ground into Pride Park, but despite a couple of top ten finishes, they were relegated again in 2002. They lost in the 2005 Play Offs to Preston, but with former PNE boss Billy Davies in charge they won the 2007 Final 1-0 against West Brom with a goal from Stephen Pearson. It didn't go well in the Premier League. Davies left after a poor start to be replaced by Paul Jewell, who led them to the lowest points total in top flight history, a total that even our lot managed to beat last year. Whistle

Since that relegation they have made the Play Offs five times without success, although last season's beating of Leeds United gave us all a good laugh. However they lost in the Final to Aston Villa and so following our relegation, we meet again.



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Head to Head

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Derby lead the head to head with 40 wins to Town's 29 with 26 draws.

We started this season with a home game against the Rams, live on Monday Night Football on Sky Sports, and got beat 1-2. Carrying on from last season's surrenders to Premier League superstars our lads decided to give Tom Lawrence the space to perform like Eden Hazard or Kevin de Bruyne and easily give Derby an early 2-0 lead. Unlike Premier League referees though, Geoff Eltringham hadn't seen the instructions from Head Office and awarded us a penalty, which Karlan Grant duly dispatched.

That was the first meeting of the two clubs for two seasons as we rubbed shoulders with the elite. That last game was at Pride Park towards the end of the season and got off to a great start with Collin Quaner giving the Terriers an early lead. We had to settle for a single point though as the much berated Jacob Butterfield levelled late on. The home game that season though was a terrific three points for the Town with Elias Kachunga nodding home a cross in injury time to give us a 1-0 win and send David Wagner on one of his famous runs down the touchline to celebrate with the players.

The season before that, Derby did the double over us. The season before that one though saw a remarkable 4-4 draw at the JSS, with Tom Ince scoring the first and last goals of the match. Unfortunately he was a Derby player then and scored more at our ground that day than he did during his season here as a Terrier. Also on target for them that day was a young lad called Jesse Lingard.

We have played six times at Pride Park and that Quaner earned point is all we have to show from our visits there. The first visit there was for an FA Cup replay back in 1999. They were a Premier League team then and after the first match at home, which was a 2-2 draw, with Chris Beech and Marcus Stewart on target for us, we went there and Beech (the current Carlisle Utd manager) gave us an early lead. Unfortunately, we couldn't hold on and Derby ended up winning it 3-1.

Back in 1971/72, Derby were the last team we beat in the season. The fact that that was in November would suggest it wasn't a good season! It was indeed a poor one, but for Derby, it would be their first ever League title, while we went down. Jimmy Lawson and Frank Worthington scored for us in a 2-1 win at Leeds Road. Cloughie's Rams won the re-match at the Baseball Ground 3-0 in April. Typical Town, we beat the champions and also beat runners up Leeds that season.

This will be the 92nd league meeting of the two teams, so you can tell that we have had many a season together. The first season we shared a league table with them was our first Football League season in 1910/11 and Derby County were our 6th ever opponent. That was a 1-1 draw away with Gordon Burniston scoring the only league goal of his three match Town career. We lost the home game 0-3 and it wouldn't be until 1920/21 before we got our first victory over them, when we met up for the first time in Division One. That was a 2-0 win at Leeds Road with goals from William Wright and Jack Swann.

One more outstanding game to mention. It was in 1931/32 and a 6-0 win for the Terriers. Goal machine Dave Mangnall scored five of the goals that day, a feat that wouldn't be matched by a Town player until Jordan Rhodes did the same against Wycombe Wanderers in 2011/12.

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So what's happening down at Pride Park? Managed nowadays by Phillip Coco, the former star of Billy Smart's Circus. Born in Eindhoven 49 years ago, he started his playing career with AZ Alkmaar. And after spells with Vitesse and PSV he joined the ranks of Dutchmen playing for Barcelona in 1998, alongside such as Louis van Gaal, Michael Reiziger, Frank de Boer, Patrick Kluivert, Boudewijn Zenden, Ronald de Boer and Winston Bogarde. He played in midfield with a lad called Pep Guardiola, and won the La Liga title in his first season there. He stayed there for 6 years before going back to PSV.
He gained over a hundred caps for the Netherlands, appearing in the squad for the 1998 World Cup Finals. The Dutch got to the semi finals against Brazil and Coco missed one of the penalties in the shoot out as they failed once more to actually win anything. He captained them at Euro 2004 and once again missed in a shoot out. He retired after they failed again at the 2006 World Cup and went into coaching.
In 2008 he became assistant manager for the national side, once again helping them to the 2010 World Cup final, which they lost to Spain, after which it was back to PSV again, this time as manager. They won the Eredivisie three times with Coco at the helm.
He came to Derby in the summer of 2019 and his first game in charge was at the John Smith's Stadium.


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So who have they got in their squad? They have two ex Town players and one current Huddersfield Town employee in the shape of goalkeeper Ben Hamer, who is there on a season long loan. The two ex players are Duane Holmes (see profile below) and Scott Malone.
But of course the most famous name in their squad is Wayne Rooney, who played twice for Everton against us in the Premier League. He may be England's all time record goal scorer, but he will be forever remembered for shagging a granny prostitute!  Whistle

Dutch keeper Kelle Roos is likely to be between the sticks due to Hamer's ineligibility. He's been there since 2014 but has been out on loan in the lower leagues with Rotherham, Wimbledon, Bristol Rovers, Port Vale and Plymouth Gargoyles.

In defence they have Matt Clarke, who left Portsmouth for Brighton in the summer then came straight to Pride Park for a season's long loan. He is joined in defence by 19 year old Jayden Bogle, Scottish international Craig Forsyth, who was unlucky enough in 2012 to be on loan at Bradford City, and Leeds born Andre Wisdom who also had the misfortune to turn out at Valley Parade in their youth system, before going to Liverpool.

The midfielder given the number 10 role to match his shirt number is Tom Lawrence, who took our defence to pieces on the opening night of our season. The energetic Holmes will be there as well as Rooney and possibly a young lad called Max Bird who flew in for his debut as a 16 year old and is now getting games again at 19. Also in midfield contention is ex Inverness Caledonian Thistle skipper Graeme Shinnie, who's last game for Caley was the Scottish Cup Final of 2015 where he got to lift the famous trophy after a 2-1 win over Falkirk. He came to Derby from Aberdeen last summer. 33 year old ex Spurs midfielder Tom Huddlestone could be there as well. He played 4 times for England.

Up top, your choices are Martyn Waghorn, the number 9 now at his 9th club, Chris Martin who has also been around, most recently on a season's loan to Hull, playing alongside Fraizer Campbell, or swing low Jack Marriott, who came on and turned the game around at Bellend Road last season when the Rams beat the Damned United in the Play Offs.  Big Grin


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Club Connections:

Richard Keogh: came to us as a 21 year old on loan from Bristol City in 2007. He started his career at Stoke City but never played for them, instead the Icelandic owners sent him out on loan to Knattspyrnufélagið Víkingur. After the loan he was released by the Potters and signed for Bristol City in the summer of 2005. It didn't start well. His second match for the Robins was a 1-7 defeat at Swansea, which saw the manager Brian Tinnion sacked and the new one Gary Johnson sent him out on loan to Wycombe Wanderers.
It didn't start well. He scored an own goal in a 1-1 draw up at Darlington. So he was soon back at Ashton Gate and towards the end of the season he scored his first goal in a 3-0 win away at Walsall.
The next season he established himself and was voted Young Player of the Season as City won promotion to the Championship. However Johnson still wasn't convinced and so sent him out on loan to us. It did start well this time as Town won 2-1 down at Millwall on his debut. But then we lost at Grimsby 1-4 in the FL Trophy. He made his home debut in a 2-3 defeat to Cheltenham Town. It was probably the worst Town home debut I've ever seen, he was truly awful, but then in the 90th minute he scored with a 40 yard screamer to set up a big finish that never happened. During his short time here we lost to footballing giants like Northampton Town, Walsall, Doncaster Rovers and Tranmere Rovers and so he was sent back to Bristol. Johnson still wasn't convinced and so he was sent out on loan again to Carlisle Utd and then Cheltenham, who were obviously impressed with that aforementioned 40 yard screamer.
Johnson offered him a new contract at the end of the season but Keogh opted to leave and signed for Carlisle Utd. He spent a couple of seasons at Brunton Park, then a couple of seasons playing for Coventry City before in 2012 signing for Derby County.
His Derby debut came in the League Cup against Scunthorpe Utd and he scored his first goal after half an hour to give the Rams the lead. The match then went barmy and two injury time goals for the Iron made it 5-5. It went to penalties and Scunny won it. In the Championship he played against Town at the MacAlpharm Stadium in a game that Danny Ward won for us with a goal in the first minute. But Keogh got his own back scoring in the return fixture in a 3-0 win for Derby. Four days after that match he made his international debut for Ireland in a match against Poland. He's got 26 caps to date.
He became club captain when he signed on at Pride Park and in the time since then he has led his team mates through five failed Play Off campaigns. This season started well for him skippering his side at our place as they won 2-1, but his Derby career and possibly his whole career suddenly came to a dramatic end after 365 appearances. Following a "team-building dinner" he and some of his team mates were involved in a car crash for which Tom Lawrence and Mason Bennett were charged with drink-driving. Keogh suffered a knee injury which ruled him out for 15 months and he was sacked as a subsequence of his responsibility in the crash, a decision which has since been upheld by a tribunal.
So where next for this serial loser?

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Duane Holmes: now aged 25, first signed on at the Huddersfield Town Academy as an 8 year old. He was born in the USA to an American father and an English mother, though from the age of 4 he was living in the Wakefield area with his mother.
He made his Town debut in a League Cup match at Hull in 2013 (as a sub) and then his league debut, again from the bench, setting up the equaliser for James Vaughan in a 1-1 draw at home to Blackpool. He made his full debut in a famous 3-2 home win over Leeds United, though he was subbed off at half time.
He was sent out on loan to Yeovil (then in the Championship) later on in that season, but came back after a couple of months and played five more times for Town. The following season he only played once for us before going on loan to Bury. That wasn't a good loan and he was sent back early, with questions being asked about his attitude, and didn't play again for Town that season. He wasn't finished with us yet though and the next season saw him score his one and only goal for us in a 5-0 win at home to Charlton. Sadly though, it didn't kick start his Town career and at the end of the season he was released and joined Scunthorpe Utd. He got to the Play Offs twice with them, losing out to Millwall and Rotherham.
Then out of the blue, following a League 1 win against Coventry, Frank Lampard signed him for Derby County. He made 35 appearances for the Rams last season, scoring Championship goals against Reading and Rotherham, culminating in the brilliant Play Off semi final win at Bellend Road. He played the first 44 minutes of the match, being subbed in favour of Jack Marriott who came on and scored immediately, turning the tie on it's head.
He made his international debut in the summer, playing for the USA in friendlies against Jamaica and Venezuela. And although he didn't feature in the game against us this season, he has been a regular again and has recently been getting rave reviews.

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Mark Lillis: made his Town debut as an 18 year old away at Newport County in 78/79. I remember it well, I was there, my first away game on my own. He played in midfield that day, but in the 234 games he played for us, he played in every department of the team, including goalkeeper! That first season had him playing 11 times under Mick Buxton as Town rallied from the foot of the 4th division. He strangely didn't feature at all in the next season, not even on the bench as we won the 4th division title.
He was back in the side half way through the next season though, scoring his first Town goal in December in a 2-2 draw down at Fulham and then going in goal in an FA Cup defeat at home to Shewsbury when Andy Rankin got injured. He scored 7 goals that season from midfield and another 6 in the season after that. But the following season, after the retirement of Ian Robins, Steve Kindon and Peter Fletcher, Lillis was moved up into attack and scored 20 goals as a super striker and partner to Colin Russell, as Town won promotion to division 2. He had a super spell in Oct/Nov 82 when he scored 9 goals in 4 games, including all 4 in a home victory over Cardiff City.
He then scored our first goal back in the 2nd division (now called Championship) in a 2-2 draw at Blackburn. That was the first of 14 for him that season, with another 16 to follow in the next one. But then in the summer of 1985, he was sold to the club he supported as a boy, Manchester City. Just one season at Maine Road, but he still finished top scorer with 12 goals, before being sold on again, this time to Derby County. It wasn't a very good time for him there, injured for most of the season, playing only 15 times and just the one goal. He was then sold on again, this time to Aston Villa. He had two seasons there, not pulling any trees up and then his career sort of faded away at places like Scunthorpe, Stockport and Macclesfield.
It was at Macclesfield that he went into coaching. Then it was back to one of his former clubs Scunthorpe as assistant manager. This was followed by a couple of years as manager of Halifax Town before going back to Derby as assistant to John Gregory. When Gregory got the boot in March 2003, our Mark took charge as caretaker manager for a short while before George Burley took over. He didn't stay with Burley, instead went to be assistant to Sammy McIlroy in the Northern Ireland job and then followed him to be his assistant at Stockport. And he followed him again to Morecambe before coming home to Huddersfield to be Academy manager.
At Town he had 4 spells as caretaker manager after the sackings of Lee Clark, Simon Grayson, Mark Robins and Chris Powell. One of his games in charge was a 0-3 defeat at Pride Park against Derby and another was the FA Cup tie against Leicester City when he gave a first team debut to the late Jordan Sinnott.
He's now back assisting Gregory, miles away from Huddersfield and Derby. He's in India, in the Indian Super League side Chennaiyin FC.


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'ow to get theere an' wheere to sup: The post code for sat nav is DE24 8UX. Now that's not the stadium, but a designated away fans car park at the Conference Centre, which is 0.8 miles away and a 17 minute walk according to Google Maps. It'll cost you a fiver and there is an away fans pub right there called The Navigation, on London Road. If you get there early enough, there's free street parking near this pub.
If you're on the train, there's a few around the station, but mainly home fans only. The Station Inn on Midland Road seems to be your best bet.

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The Navigation on London Road


Recent form: Town are 20th in the Championship with 35 points. Derby are 13th with 43.

Last 6 games:

Town 0-3 Cardiff
Town 2-0 QPR
Fulham 3-2 Town
Hull 1-2 Town
Town 0-0 Brentford
Barnsley 2-1 Town

Bristol City 3-2 Derby
Swansea 2-3 Derby
Derby 4-2 Northampton (FA Cup replay)
Derby 4-0 Stoke
Luton 3-2 Derby
Northampton 0-0 Derby (FA Cup)


Derby in popular culture: Struggling to find owt of significance. Derby was of course featured in the film The Damned United, a film mainly about dirty Leeds United but also featuring Brian Clough when he was at Derby County.



Actors Alan Bates, Michael Knowles, Kevin Lloyd and Gwen Taylor (who played Barbara in Barbara) are all from Derby, but really apart from them, Derby appears to be a complete talent vacuum.














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Tried the Station Inn the last time we played there. Front door was locked, couldn't find a back'un for love nor money me ducks. Never had a problem getting in The Brunswick.

Now given that Derby are already under investigation for breaches of FFP related to the inflated value they placed on the ground when selling it to their owner, how the hell do they get away with a sponsor paying Rooney's wage. Doesn't that breach 3rd party ownership of players rules? If Derby aren't paying him, then who actually "owns" him because he sure as hell isn't playing and coaching for petrol, beer and fags brass.

Plus the price of the occasional granny shag on expenses.
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And now that Man City have been banned from Europe, the EFL must show that they are also serious about FFP by immediately relegating Derby.
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Why stop with Derby?
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Derby, Wendies and Man City, plus a few more could all be in the same division next season - at least one below us. Won't 'appen though will it? The lack of fit and proper people at the EFL, EPL and every other administrative level of English football means it will be another whitewash job.
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Absolutely no chance whatsoever of that happening. Weren't QPR the first to break this rule when it first came in? And didn't they get away scot free?

Anyway back to today. Looks like Hoggy will be out injured again and Andy King will be his replacement.
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More yellow rain and yellow wind forecast for today.

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Gonna be a tough game but maybe the conditions will be a leveller for us
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Aye, a combination of Dennis the Menace and those jet engines built down the road are going to lead to some turbulence at pitch level. Hopefully Town have trained hard for this one and won't let the weather blow us off track in our quest for mid table mediocrity.
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