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Am I bovvered?
#1
Just a yes/no will do, but elaborate why if you want. Do you actually care whether Albion are liked or disliked by neutrals?

I would imagine that Albion are the least popular team in the Premier at the moment and, realistically, that stigma unfortunately seems to last some years:

  People still dislike Stoke, 4 years after Pulis left.
  They also dislike Chelsea 14 years after Abramovich destroyed football with his money.
  And most people dislike ManU even though Ferguson has been left 4 years.
  Wimbledon - if anyone still gave them a thought - are only ever remembered as the thugs whose long-ball game        cynically spoilt football 30 years ago. (They are not remembered affectionately as the Davids who slew the        Goliaths).
Stigmas seem to last longer than fond appreciation. (West Ham's old image - much like ours - has been turned upside down over the last few years, and they are now disliked by most neutrals).  
 

If Albion don't change their ways soon, - and I'm talking about the style of play - instead of being thought of affectionately as a "footballing" side, we will be joining the above rogues as a Club to hate.
Other Clubs' fans will no longer welcome Baggies fans into their Locals with open arms, as I've mostly experienced. Instead they will sneer, and start conversations like "How can you come all this way to watch that shite every week?", which naturally gets a "Who the f*ck do you think you're talking to, you cockney/northern twat?" response. And the Away-day-out, quite apart from having to endure the turgid football, becomes a sad experience; thus Away following will eventually dwindle, like Home support.

The question is: Am I bovvered? Are you bovvered?

Some seriously want to just stay in the Prem no matter what, in that status is more important than anything else (even having to endure dreadful football at home games in order to achieve that status).  
Personally I can put up with it in the interim, but not for another full season.*

*Not that I'm a regular - I now live deep in Cornwall, and have only been to 20 home games in 5 years. But I meet and talk to loads of tourists, and their reaction these days when I tell who I support, is no longer a look of interest - more a look of pity!!
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#2
Good post talkSAFT.
Personally it DOES bother me.  I wish we could go at least halfway to being an "entertaining" club, like we were always thought of as. I can understand to some extent the need to get points in the bag, but to surrender possession in home games to smaller clubs below us in the table is absurd.
To then show absolutely no adventure when safe is ridiculous........and to be honest I don't see TP changing. I DO care what neutrals think of us, and so, logically, would actually like to see a more adventurous HC in charge.

Enough is enough. Thanks Mr Pulis for the the stability you've given us, but let's move on.

OK, I'll be first:
Mazzarri, anyone??
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#3
Yes it bovvers me too.
Living in Scotland we dont get the regonal haterid but that said apart i do get flack for supporting a small boring team.
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#4
Yes, I am bovvered, I hate the greed league and everything it stands for, I have never watched a champions ( also ran ) league match apart from bits when passing a tv with it on. I used to pride myself that we played entertaining football first and foremost and were most neutrals second team.
Football is now just a business ...... Would I pay to watch a plumber for an hour and a half ..... no I want to be entertained.
Yes we need to be among the greedy to get the funds in an attempt to compete and maybe get some long overdue silverware but my is it dull.
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#5
Drewks has said it for me.
Interesting that Watford fans are saying exactly the same about Mazzarri that we're saying about Pulis, though.
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(17-05-2017, 18:46)Baggievicar Wrote: Drewks has said it for me.
Interesting that Watford fans are saying exactly the same about Mazzarri that we're saying about Pulis, though.

Oh  Doh !!
But he's Italian isn't he - don't they'm win titles?
Oooops - so's Zola   Blush
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#7
I'm not sure Rolleyes
I have defended Pulis on here a lot
I think he has done well with the average players we have,
This summer is massive for us,
I think with a lot of investment in wingers and forwards pulis's tactics could work as it did at Palace,
They were not boring but had pace to burn up front !!
I don't think i could watch another season like this and that's why recruitment is crucial this summer not next summer this one, Blush
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#8
It does bother me. I was very proud of our club for trying to go about things the right way with coaches like Mowbray and Di Matteo who brought entertaining football to the club although it wasn't as successful in the Premiership. Since we got promoted and then sent Di Matteo to the garden centre, the club started to lose it's soul as a model that other teams could try to emulate. Of course we still had good times with Roy Hodgson and Steve Clarke's time but that is when the club's approach started to change with more emphasis on defence and counter-attack and less entertainment which is important for the neutral's view of our club.

Entertaining football, great fans and solid financially is what we were about. Now we are a boring, stale and disliked club who only cares about playing in the Premiership and the money it brings. The day Tony Pulis came to West Brom is the day this club finally sold it soul to the footballing devil that is the money machine known as the Premiership. I have nothing against Tony Pulis as a man but as a football coach/manager I have never been fond of him. I have warmed to him this season more and more as it went on but now he has returned to type and I'm starting to dislike him again.

A possible saving grace is now that we have a new owner and hopefully proper ambition, which we haven't had for a long time, the old West Brom with a great reputation can return. We shall see.

Drewks, if we were to ever go Italian in the future I would love Eusebio Di Francesco from Sassuolo.
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#9
Unsurprisingly, I'm with most of you on this site in caring a great deal on how we are seen. An initial word of caution I would throw in is that, in the 55 years since I saw my first Albion match, the world of football supporting has changed, even more so with the growth of social media and the opportunity to post unpleasant, baseless and ignorant comments about other teams than one's own. Years ago (here comes the old fart's reminiscences) it was just local rivalry and, even then, it was pretty good natured banter. Now you see keyboard warrior twats sounding off and verbally abusing fans of any club, often with no rivalry link to their own, because they can hide behind the anonymity of the internet.
Having said all that, we used to be pretty well liked by other fans, seen as a "proper" football club who played attacking, exciting football. Now, we are scorned as a team with no ambition on the pitch and who basically fulfill fixtures against the so called elite of the league, our only aim being not to get hammered. I honestly don't see this changing whilst Pulis is manager. If all that matters to our fans is that we are in the Premier Leagu, regardless of the style of performance, I don't see the point of them attending the match - just get the score at 4.50pm and then look at the league table. This is meant to be entertainment, not torture.
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#10
Agree with everyone so far. The football is dire! Nothing against T.P personally, but seriously, do they practice passing at training!? Or is it just set pieces day in day out? We should try to entice Marco Silva before he agrees a deal with Watford. It cant go on like this... surely?
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