[Devongone]

When we lose every week do you find your worries about the club surfacing all together in one amorphous jellyfish blob?

Morgan worries me big-time. He was Sheff Utd's most-sent-off player wasn't he? If he'd done what he did to Ian Hume on the street, he'd have gone to prison. Now he trains our players ...... come-back players briefly surface and return to the injured list, players go down injured in training the day before a game ..... Don't you wonder what kind of input he gives into team selection? And how we train?

Ricky German now worries me. He's a young, physically advanced player, who has looked absolutely the business at lower levels, but in the first team he seems to be committing far more fouls than I've seen from him before. He comes on in the 88th minute and still manages to commit a foul! What is being said to him? Is he getting the impression he has to prove himself a big, tough man? It is ability that will make his career, not physique - that is a gift. Is this Morgan's influence? I worry we'll ruin Ricky.

Injuries worry me. Have you ever known so many? There has to be a reason for them. The training is an obvious one, but we seem to have gained injuries since we enlisted the more professional assistance of Mr Wylde. The care's better yet it seems we are losing out by providing it!????

It worries me that our manager has recruited only cheap players who have an element of the gamble about them, when our established professionals are unable to provide a sound basis upon which some of them might flourish. Lee, Jones (and Angel who is an old pro' if not established with us) are all long-term injuries. Evatt is getting older and his partner Hird does not have the physical capacity to cope with a partner who is slowing down (and Raglan has been discarded as the solution). SEB seems to have lost it forever, O'Shea too rarely finds his form and enthusiasm at the same time, Gardner appears still to have a non-league attitude and Liddle who was supposed to provide the foundation for the team never has ........  So - any sparkle we have has to come from Evans (4 years out of the game) and Ariyibi (who is young and seems to have taken a step backwards). Our developing players are left covering the gaps created by all this AND you can't just get yourself a load of established, successful players, so how can we avoid relegation? And if we kept Danny, or replaced him, would he or the new manager have any budget?

It also worries me that our games tend to follow a pattern. We don't score. If we reach halftime scoreless we will then concede early in the second half. On the rare occasions we avoid that we can relied upon to concede in the last five minutes. To me this suggests a problem inside the heads of the players, not only isn't the team good enough, it knows it isn't and at the game's crucial moments it is ready to lose.

What do you think? What are your worries?

[spireitematt]

The fact we keep losing 1-0 nearly every game and can't seem to keep a clean sheet. The fact we've only won 1 game in the last 12 or 13 and the fact we haven't scored a goal for a while. The debt worries me but other than that nope not worried.

Looking at the fixture list its difficult to see where the next point is coming from never mind three. I think we could beat Colchester in the cup in a replay.

[Devongone]

Yeah the debt worries me too - thanks for an extra one - what happens if the chairman cops his clogs?

And yeah, 1-0 defeats look like we commit ourselves so much to defend we can't score, but we can't quite defend well enough to get 0.

Colchester seem to find bizarre ways to lose too - referee knocked then conceding on a charge-down in the last minutes. Perhaps the FA will have to come up with a new ruling so neither of us reach the second round.

[bluepooch]

It cannot be a coincidence that we keep losing by the odd goal, its down to the mentality of the players and Im sorry all you Danny lovers but he is the one ultimately responsible for the team mentality.
I will not accept the board have let him down, he knew the situation when he came in to the job and he has clearly failed in his attempts to take us up the table .
I too worry about Morgan and I fear that if he takes over from Wilson we will be doomed.
Tomorrow night is crunch night ,anything less than 3 points and decisions have to be made by the board ,the stats are embarrassing.

[spireitematt]

It cannot be a coincidence that we keep losing by the odd goal, its down to the mentality of the players and Im sorry all you Danny lovers but he is the one ultimately responsible for the team mentality.
I will not accept the board have let him down, he knew the situation when he came in to the job and he has clearly failed in his attempts to take us up the table .
I too worry about Morgan and I fear that if he takes over from Wilson we will be doomed.
Tomorrow night is crunch night ,anything less than 3 points and decisions have to be made by the board ,the stats are embarrassing.

Pooch it doesn't matter who manages the team the results probably won't change. Cook was given a very good budget and Saunders the same and Wilson has had the budget cut and is doing his best with what he's got. Who will take us over if Danny goes?

Tomorrow night isn't crunch night. I agree the stats are embarrassing but Shrewsbury are worse than us and they beat us.

[St Charles Owl]

It cannot be a coincidence that we keep losing by the odd goal, its down to the mentality of the players and Im sorry all you Danny lovers but he is the one ultimately responsible for the team mentality.
I will not accept the board have let him down, he knew the situation when he came in to the job and he has clearly failed in his attempts to take us up the table .
I too worry about Morgan and I fear that if he takes over from Wilson we will be doomed.
Tomorrow night is crunch night ,anything less than 3 points and decisions have to be made by the board ,the stats are embarrassing.

Its interesting what you say about Morgan. I remember last season Blunts fans trying to determine why they kept failing to win promotion our of League 1 and a couple of fans noted that the two constants through their time in L1 were McCabe and Morgan. Most of their fans were blaming McCabe for everything but a couple did wonder if Morgan was part of the problem, only to be shot down by other fans who view him as a hero and someone who could do no wrong!!

Makes you wonder??

[Devongone]

Morgan was a psycho on the pitch - fans love commitment ........ he needs committing ......... to our history at least.

Danny brought him to us I assume because he is a very different character to himself. Danny is a nice bloke, I've never heard Morgan accused of that. Unfortunately we are a football club, not a police interrogation unit.

I agree that Danny is ultimately responsible for the team's mentality, but earlier this very season our friend Dancing went out of his way to praise the spirit on view! But an influential bad egg can ruin everything - the trick to good management is to spot the problem and deal with it and even I have to wonder if Danny is of the stuff to do that kind of thing (you need either a nasty, or coldly professional streak).

I'm afraid I do blame the CEO and our Board, because we make the same mistakes as regards recruitment over and over again. For can't afford Novak's wages, read can't accede to Craig Davies's demands. What happens when you can't afford to score, you lose. I'm sure Danny did have an idea of what he was taking on last season, but he achieved our one aim - to stay up, BUT I doubt he'd taken into account the long-term effects of contracts wasted on players who were either down, or out, or even in SEB's case, both! As a club we consistently underestimate the level of player needed to keep us in Division One, so our budget falls short of the task.

Of course saving us even this season is possible and yes you can recruit on the cheap and succeed. Burton weren't big spenders, neither are Scunny and Bolton are in bigger financial trouble than Haiti. But the odds are against you in a series of gambles .......

All Danny's solutions involve Liddle and Morgan. I'm not agin a back three, except that it looks like a new way to resurrect Liddle - how many times can we roll away the stone? And more training, more time with a psycho checking out our durability - Eddie Jones creates fewer injuries in an England squad session! I still think ditch those two and expand the Hump's role and we'd be giving ourselves a fighting chance.

[bluepooch]

It cannot be a coincidence that we keep losing by the odd goal, its down to the mentality of the players and Im sorry all you Danny lovers but he is the one ultimately responsible for the team mentality.
I will not accept the board have let him down, he knew the situation when he came in to the job and he has clearly failed in his attempts to take us up the table .
I too worry about Morgan and I fear that if he takes over from Wilson we will be doomed.
Tomorrow night is crunch night ,anything less than 3 points and decisions have to be made by the board ,the stats are embarrassing.

Its interesting what you say about Morgan.  I remember last season Blunts fans trying to determine why they kept failing to win promotion our of League 1 and a couple of fans noted that the two constants through their time in L1 were McCabe and Morgan.  Most of their fans were blaming McCabe for everything but a couple did wonder if Morgan was part of the problem, only to be shot down by other fans who view him as a hero and someone who could do no wrong!!

Makes you wonder??

Charlie,

Thats fans for you ,once one or two put an idea into their heads they all follow like nodding donkeys you just have to look at bobs board for that.
Its very interesting what you say about the Mcabe/Morgan scenario ,this is exactly whats happening here now with the Allen Wilson situation.Most are blaming Allen totally for the position we are in and meanwhile we continue to lose to nil and the Danny love in continues.
For the first time ever I am hoping we lose heavily tonight so Allen feels the pressure to get rid of Wilson and hopefully Morgan.

[Devongone]

To be fair Pooch when things go wrong on the field it is the whole team gets it wrong - if you don't score it isn't only the forwards ..... everyone hasn't scored; when you concede, that goal counts against everyone, it isn't just the defence. In the same way failing clubs tend to sack one man - the manager - but his is just one of the many failures on show. Football clubs are one of the few kinds of organisation with a ready measure of their success ...... genuine league tables. When you are bottom you really are a shit club, you're not just a good club with a dodgy manager. If a school gets only five students through GCSE English nobody thinks it's a great school with a rubbish head - they think it is a shit school and hope their children don't end up there.

Danny is failing, Saunders failed, Sheridan failed and Paul Cook left before he was asked to leap the same chasm that the whole club habitually dynamites in front of its managers. A behaviourist would look at our last ten years and conclude that this is how the club wants it to be; after all relegation, the sometimes successful fights against it , sackings of managers, success in a lower division, the excitement of a promotion season all provide rewards in their own way. Suppose we hovered between ninth and twelfth in Division One every season ...... how would fans react, the players, the staff everyone? Danny is part of the process that's all. If Mr Allen wanted it for the club he could provide all sorts of incentives to avoid relegation and reinvigorate the team - I don't blame him for not wanting to ...... but SpireiteMatt is right, in the long-term changing managers will make no difference. Even if we appoint a saviour we'll be looking for ways to make him our next wicker man.

[bluepooch]

Sorry Dev but I dont buy this ever growing theory that DA wants relegation so we can go through the cycle of the promotion from league two with the big crowds and razzmattaz .For a start its a very risky thing to do financially especially if wilsons in charge .
Im sure he knows that the best way is to build the club up gradually ,once that fanbase is lost it takes some getting back and if he doesnt act now the crowds will be 4k regularly .
I honestly cant understand that if the theory of bringing young players through and selling them on is what he preaches then you dont get rid of your key man paul mitchell.