In today's EEN Lenny puzzled by the lack of good form/results but looking for a reaction to what I 'd call a 'mini slump'. We're not significantly threatened in this league yet but, with our superior resources and backing, we should be streaking away with this league title. IMO there's no conundrum re this issue - goals win games and we are creating lotsa scoring opps but certain Hibs players are not 'delivering the goods'. The manager said that he and his coaching staff are doing the right things on the training ground. If that's the case then these players are not transferring their training commitment on to real matches. Please sort it Neil - the talking is over and move these players out of their 'comfort zone'!
Lennon baffled by Hibs slump?
10-10-2016, 22:43
Unfortunately it's not a new problem. We've suffered from the same attitude for a number of years now. We're quite good at raising our game against the "bigger" teams, but it's the "lesser" teams that are getting a boost, knowing that we can't finish off games when we are on top.
If Lennon had done his homework on Hibs before he came, he would surely realise that this is a regular occurrence. Good luck to him on getting it sorted out, but it'll definitely test his patience.
GGTTH
If Lennon had done his homework on Hibs before he came, he would surely realise that this is a regular occurrence. Good luck to him on getting it sorted out, but it'll definitely test his patience.
GGTTH
Cabbage is still good for you
One suggestion that I know a lotta Hibs fans would frown upon would be playing these lesser sides, with their 'backs to the wall' tactics, at their own game and defend not to lose, save ourselves for the final quarter of a match and raise the tempo during that period. However, the main focus would be on not losing goals and deploying a 'blanket of defensive cover' that doesn't allow any threatening movement of opposition players. It would bore the pants off all fans within the stadium rather than opposition fans watching this kinda boring shit for most of the game in which their team is trying to compete and doing it badly but we are not punishing them enough!!!
10-10-2016, 23:45
To be fair the games with ayr and queens were played a man down for a fair amount of time,i think they would have seen narrow hibs wins with 11 on the park and things would be looking pretty good!
11-10-2016, 10:44
(This post was last modified: 11-10-2016, 10:44 by HerefordBull.)
Carrot or stick approach? After Stubbs softly softly approach I think Lennons style isn't working any better. Unfortunately the last few managers with a similar strong approach haven't faired so well! .......delegation arriving at Petries door anyone?
I think he needs to learn from someone like Alex Ferguson, probably the best Club manager ever.......superb knack at defending all players on the outside to press etc and obviously knowing when to read the riot act behind closed doors and more importantly knowing which players would respond to this and which wouldn't.........get to know your players Lenny!
I like your optimism Jim. Most sides I see, especially against Hibs, play better after a sending off as it galvanises their play. The truth is if we are as good as people have been saying and the rest are so poor we should still be winning these games at a canter. The main problem is that neither Stubbs nor NL have found the approach and side to break teams down who have come to park the bus. When we do open the scoring we then cannot seem to finish them off and score a second and third. Against Ayr the sending off came quite late by which time we should have been at least three up and not one..........a wee bit of panic sets in and Ayr gain confidence and eventually run out easy winners on paper.
Saturday will tell us a lot I feel.
GGTTH
I think he needs to learn from someone like Alex Ferguson, probably the best Club manager ever.......superb knack at defending all players on the outside to press etc and obviously knowing when to read the riot act behind closed doors and more importantly knowing which players would respond to this and which wouldn't.........get to know your players Lenny!
(10-10-2016, 23:45)hibeejim21 Wrote: To be fair the games with ayr and queens were played a man down for a fair amount of time,i think they would have seen narrow hibs wins with 11 on the park and things would be looking pretty good!
I like your optimism Jim. Most sides I see, especially against Hibs, play better after a sending off as it galvanises their play. The truth is if we are as good as people have been saying and the rest are so poor we should still be winning these games at a canter. The main problem is that neither Stubbs nor NL have found the approach and side to break teams down who have come to park the bus. When we do open the scoring we then cannot seem to finish them off and score a second and third. Against Ayr the sending off came quite late by which time we should have been at least three up and not one..........a wee bit of panic sets in and Ayr gain confidence and eventually run out easy winners on paper.
Saturday will tell us a lot I feel.
GGTTH
"FOREVER UNITED"
I still believe our main prob is a striking one and it appears that we lack the prolific goal scorer who will score the requisite 25 goals in this league. We are also not scoring enough from attacking mid positions. The scoring opps are there but not being converted. Look at Saturday's match stats - Forster was a massive offender for not scoring a single goal from terrific penetrating free kicks by Keatings. Keatings 'blotted his copy book' by not converting a Gray low pass at the back post. McGeouch hit a wonderful 25 yard shot that beat Langfield 'all ends up' but it bounced off the Saint Mirren post - Hibs mid players don't do this enough and it was the same scenario during Stubbs' era!
I'm already looking towards the Jan transfer window and improving what we've got. Two players of interest are at Celtic 'gathering dust' - Kris Commons and Hendo! I'd hope that Lennon would try to prise them from Rodgers' grasp at least for the remainder of the season. IMO they would add another 'dimension' to this Hibs team and the improvement would be huge.
GGTTH
I'm already looking towards the Jan transfer window and improving what we've got. Two players of interest are at Celtic 'gathering dust' - Kris Commons and Hendo! I'd hope that Lennon would try to prise them from Rodgers' grasp at least for the remainder of the season. IMO they would add another 'dimension' to this Hibs team and the improvement would be huge.
GGTTH
11-10-2016, 12:47
(This post was last modified: 11-10-2016, 12:47 by hibeejim21.)
I still have a wee vibe that commons might come to hibs and play out his deal. He is nowhere near quick enough to play the kind of football Rodgers has celtic playing currently and remains close friends with lennon.
Henderson is not even getting a spot on the bench,but I heard the deal broke down between us as and celtic as the player does not want another loan deal.
Henderson is not even getting a spot on the bench,but I heard the deal broke down between us as and celtic as the player does not want another loan deal.
(11-10-2016, 12:47)hibeejim21 Wrote: I still have a wee vibe that commons might come to hibs and play out his deal. He is nowhere near quick enough to play the kind of football Rodgers has celtic playing currently and remains close friends with lennon.
Henderson is not even getting a spot on the bench,but I heard the deal broke down between us as and celtic as the player does not want another loan deal.
I view this kinda transfer activity as a season changing moment when some footie managers effectively 'see the light' and change the playing dynamic of the team that they are managing. Obviously injuries still play a part in such a scenario but I think we have a strong enough squad of players to cover that restriction. Re Hendo's situation, I'd expect him to grasp any kinda deal to play games and see out a good 4-5 month period with the likes of Hibs esp when he previously enjoyed it and had good friendships with various people at the club.
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