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#41
You know for sure they have shot themselves in the foot Jim??

I don't think the immigrants are hated I just think the rules on immigration are hated there is a difference,and have those recent attacks not been because of terrorism etc,i don't think I have heard of a polish person being attacked for being Polish certainly not in Edinburgh anyway.

How will it?? this country is still the same as it was prior to going into the EU nothing has changed,we have no fuqing council housing available in Edinburgh same as before we joined, but they spend a fuqing fortune on a tram link.
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#42
Hang on i didnt see Cameron and Osborne or any of the majority of remain tory mps stoking up hatred .their argument obviously failed big time because people knew they were just hollow words and figures .so people went with their hunches
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#43
(29-06-2016, 10:45)bluepooch Wrote: Hang on i didnt see Cameron and Osborne or any of the majority of remain tory mps stoking up hatred .their argument obviously failed big time because people knew they were just hollow words and figures .so people went with their hunches

That's irrelevant. The facts are that racial attacks have risen hugely in England and wales since the referendum campaign.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/po...2c5639adcb
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#44
Does anyone believe in the huge rise in immigrant attacks since last Thursday? This is another reflection of how dumb the opinion-formers think we all are. Sheep to be penned. And they might be right. Before the referendum we saw street interviews of people who neither knew there was a referendum or what the EU was ......... And people wonder why I'm not a democrat.

This morning I heard a lovely Danish member of Jean-Claude Juncker's team saying that they were saying PLEASE STAY all along. I watch political programmes, read the papers, access the internet & I never saw that message, yet they think that is what we heard. No one said you are our friends, we need you and we think you need us. Almost every picture you see of Mr Juncker he is greeting people, putting his arms round them, kissing them .......... if we had ever seen or heard anything like such a welcoming, friendly attitude then the vote might have been different. IN FACT from the very start we got Cameron in battle-mode going off to difficult negotiations with people who apparently wanted to give nothing away. As they have never given such leeway to a country before they think they gave us a lot. We think we got next to nothing. They think we turned down their generousity and feel hurt.

The message we got was STAY or it'll be the worse for you my lad.

I'd hate to be thought a Boris or Gove supporter, but don't conflate them with Mr Farage as the EU was trying to do yesterday. The campaign wasn't won on lies - it was lost (largely by The Biscuit Boy) on the substitution of wild prediction for facts and warnings of the austerity he and the markets would wreak on us if we voted the wrong way. They thought they'd win that way, the markets bought the idea and financed polls to back it up, they got themselves into the pound up to their super-sized piggy collars and then had to unload like crazy when they found they were wrong.

The English are sentimental fools. If they'd asked us to stay. If they'd told us we were needed and wanted, and that we'd be better off with them, they'd have got the 60% that the 4,000,000 idiots signing up to a re-run of this nightmare now think should be imposed retrospectively. Even I'd have reconsidered for a few minutes before spotting that the odd blow against the power of global corporations has to be worth it,

But no The City isn't going to decamp to Frankfurt. Even Scotland won't get to go anywhere soon.
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#45
I think youre being a bit naive Jim.
I certainly dont believe there has been a massive rise due to the referendum .just the odd idiot.
I also see that the impending financial meltdown predicted by the remainers may not happen after all.the pound has recovered significantly.
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#46
Blue, Dev,
Its been all over local radio the last couple of days about numpties expecting all the European migrants to have been put on a bus and sent home last Friday because we voted out. An 11 year old kid was given a note at school telling him to clear off back to Poland. A group of Polish people in Doncaster were refused service in a pub and were asked to leave because they were not English. There was a radio phone in this morning and some of the comments were mind boggling.
The unfortunate thing is is that by voting out you sided with the extreme right wing who won the vote by lying and racial smearing. It was bog all to do with party politics, it was a vote for sanity or a green light for Boris and Nigel. Did you see the little shit in Brussells yesterday, couldn't wait to rub it in on how clever he was so many years ago telling them all he would take us out of the EU.

If there is a referendum now he will probably win a seat and its an unfortunate fact that Ukip could well hold the balance of power. There are enough racial bigots in England to allow that to happen.
Dev, you live in a nice part of the country and I would imagine you don't see many EU migrants there because there isn't a lot of industry but believe me in areas where they are, there is a lot of resentment and good old Nigel is the one who is going to stoke things up and cleverly exploit it to "take England back". That's what you voted for - The Boris and Nigel dream ticket. Not a protest vote against Cameron and the Conservatives.
Blue, last week the pound stood at 1.30 against the Euro. Today it stands at 1.21 after dropping to 1.19 last Friday. That's the Euro that according to Dev is worthless. If that's significant recovery I must go to Specsavers again.
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#47
Dancing i exchanged money at the airport a few years ago at 1 for 1 so today we are positively rolling in it
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#48
I'm being so naïve about it the governments preparing a new hate crime action plan to try and tackle the issue.
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#49
But i believe this is as a result of hate crime going up over the last year or so not since the referendum .
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#50
The mail and the sun have had immigrant scare stories just about every day since this referendum was announced.
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