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(03-05-2016, 16:04)hibeejim21 Wrote: You do accept it though. Theres been numerous cases where sectarian songs have been heard loud and clear sung at us and our manager this season,not once have you condemned it. You can't indulge in it cos you don't go to games. But yet you seem to think 'billy boys' is a good song too so who knows ?
I do not accept it. Sectarian songs shouldn't be sung, no matter who sings them, and I don't need to condemn every single instance to be able to stand by that.
I will however condemn sectarianism posted here on these boards, especially if it's directed at me. I'm sorry if that doesn't suit your wishes.
By the way, 'TBB' is indeed a great song, but it needs to have it's lyrics changed. Until it has, it's unacceptable.
(03-05-2016, 16:04)hibeejim21 Wrote: There is such a thing as scale in a problem you know, and you completely ignoring your own clubs shocking record in this area and focusing on clubs that just don't have a problem is pretty shoddy. Slippery even.
As intimated above, and previously, scale doesn't come into it. If we want to tackle sectarianism in Scottish football, we have to tackle it all, not just one part of it. Otherwise we still have sectarianism, and sectarianism is bad, right?
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It's a great song but it's unacceptable hahahaha what a fud.
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Marching Through Georgia is a work from 1865 at the end of the American Civil War by Henry Clay Work to celebrate Shermans march from Atlanta to capture Savannah....a journey I am re tracing this September.
Over the years many different lyrics have been put to it including many by football fans and other groups. When you hear the tune don't always assume what lyrics are being sung 
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03-05-2016, 17:25
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'and I don't need to condemn every single instance to be able to stand by that.'
Im not asking you to - once would be a sign you mean it though.
'I will however condemn sectarianism posted here on these boards, especially if it's directed at me. I'm sorry if that doesn't suit your wishes.'
What was directed at you ? Nothing, you just waded in to deliberately ruin this thread and were quite open about it.
"As intimated above, and previously, scale doesn't come into it."
Yes it does come into it. Very much so. You can't hide from that as much as you might try.
(03-05-2016, 17:17)exeterhibby Wrote: Marching Through Georgia is a work from 1865 at the end of the American Civil War by Henry Clay Work to celebrate Shermans march from Atlanta to capture Savannah....a journey I am re tracing this September.
Over the years many different lyrics have been put to it including many by football fans and other groups. When you hear the tune don't always assume what lyrics are being sung
In the context of scottish football it's usually 'billy boys'. Especially if rangers fans are singing it ffs.
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03-05-2016, 17:31
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(03-05-2016, 17:25)hibeejim21 Wrote: Yes it does come into it. Very much so. You can't hide from that as much as you might try.
No. Scale does not come into it. If we want rid of sectarianism in Scottish football, we have to get rid of it all. If we don't, then we still have sectarianism in Scottish football.
I can't believe you cannot see this, unless all you want is rid of the sectarianism you don't agree with.
(03-05-2016, 17:25)hibeejim21 Wrote: In the context of scottish football it's usually 'billy boys'. Especially if rangers fans are singing it ffs.
In the context of Scottish football, it's mostly sung by Killie fans and Dundee fans (as heard last night). It's a great song - a great atmosphere-creator.
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How would you know it creates an atmosphere?? You'd need to go to a game to really understands that
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"I can't believe you cannot see this, unless all you want is rid of the sectarianism you don't agree with."
We are just going to have to disagree on this, everyone who is trying to tackle the problem acknowledge where the efforts really need to be concentrated every report on the issue makes it clear. Even your clubs previous custodians admit it.
It just isn't a wide problem in the scottish game generally,but it's certainly a problem with you and celtic and always has been. Right up to a youth cup final recently.....a youth cup game ffs.
Scale of the problem means added responsibility in dealing with it. I can't believe you struggle with that.
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The only thing I struggle with is the glaring misconception that removing a part if the problem miraculously removes all of the problem. It doesn't.
If you're serious about getting rid of sectarianism in Scottish football, you have to deal with it all. If you're not serious about it, and only want some of it dealt with, then you become part of the problem.
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yer talking shite trus, nae change there.
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04-05-2016, 12:45
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Delusion, illusion or deliberate avoidance of the real issues, the significant ones, is more to the point!! 
Anyway back to the real topic - Sparky yesterday saying on SSN that there's a new challenge for him in impressing the next Celtic manager and hopefully the guy will be impressed by his striking qualities as well. If not then maybe we'll get him back at ER again! 
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