[hibeejim21]

" If it's used by anyone in a sectarian manner (it certainly is by Celtic fans) then it is inherently sectarian. Black and white, no grey."

Maybe you should concentrate on your own clubs frequent and unpleasant sectarian behaviour before you go around looking for it where its not there. But no of course not.


"I see much wailing and gnashing of teeth over the PFA awards among certain Hibs fans here "


And? This is the hibs board,we are entitled to state our feelings on here even if they don't correlate with rangers fans or the xxxx pfa members opinions.(who have made an arse of these things before) No idea why you are getting so touchy about it.

I don't think warburton should have got it, that's a perfectly valid opinion.

[Trusevich]

It's not up to you though, and crying about it while blaming the media and a previous manager is f*cking stupid. You know this, but all you (and Paignton) want to do is moan about Warburton/Rangers/West of Scotland GFA media bias etc., etc., etc.



As for concentrating on Rangers fans' problems, while ignoring the sectarian behaviour of Hibs fans here - how exactly does that stop sectarianism in football in Scotland? Answer is that it doesn't, and it simply cannot. Again, you know this, and you know that to tackle sectarianism in Scottish football we all need to tackle the whole problem, not just the bits you don't agree with.

Black and white. No grey.

As far as this site is concerned, the only sectarian behaviour I've ever seen has been from non-Rangers fans. I'd be abhorred if any of us sunk to that level here, and I'm absolutely certain it would be dealt with by our own Rangers-supporting community. I'd like to think the same of other club's fans on here too, but the evidence to the contrary is damning.

[0762]

 If it's used by anyone in a sectarian manner (it certainly is by Celtic fans) then it is inherently sectarian. Black and white, no grey.


Another who doesn't disagree with my point, though.

Voted by their peers. Angst and anti-media hatred is misplaced.

Stop repeating yourself Trusevich and reverting back to the same old 'nonsense' that you've been repeating for long enough, like a 'stuck record', on this board and looking for the usual response that suits your negative form of forum debating. Statement/remarks noted long ago. Now shut up and disappear eh!!!! Healthy debate please as reiterated recently by Mark the mod and quite right too after reading all the shit of the day for far too long!!

[Trusevich]

Healthy debate? What is more healthy than challenging outdated sectarian abuse?

[0762]

That's the non-football stuff that you wanna regularly talk about and are quick enough to raise it. So you go and talk about it, and the usual other guff, with someone else and preferably on another forum eh. Now get lost and take heed of the recent message that was issued re all the past shit that was rife on this board!! I have nothing more to say re this nonsense and you can talk to yourself as far I'm concerned - nuff said!!

[hibeejim21]

"It's not up to you though, and crying about it while blaming the media and a previous manager is f*cking stupid."


But it is up to us though. Otherwise whats the point of having a forum? I think mccoists failure has made it easier to give it to warburton. His record certainly isnae that great. Mcintyre won a trophy all the clubs were allowed to enter, and if the criteria is beating celtic well mcinnes has done it twice this season. Why is warburton getting it and robbie neilson didnae - even when he won it more convincingly and with less resource.



"As far as this site is concerned, the only sectarian behaviour I've ever seen has been from non-Rangers fans."


This site does not equal scottish fitba though. You are referring to a handful of rangers fans,most of whom are barely near ibrox mostly trying to pass the buck for the behaviour of their own fans in the real world that they never see or just simply look away from.

How telling you mention a song from the celtic end at the weekend whilst completely ignoring the incessant bigoted chants from your own end at easter road this season (and at home v hibs where i believe the league were informed)

Evidence to the contrary i suppose.

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That's the stuff that you wanna regularly talk about and are quick enough to raise it. So you go and talk about it, and the usual other guff, with someone else and preferably on another forum eh. Now get lost and take heed of the recent message that was issued re all the past shit that was rife on this board!! I have nothing more to say re this nonsense and you can talk to yourself as far I'm concerned - nuff said!!

Clearly having a personal view on things that doesn't fit with rangers fans views is 'xxxx stupid'. 

Why even bother to exchange views on here ?  We might as well do it by PM.

[Trusevich]

As I keep on saying - you cannot remove sectarian behaviour in Scottish football by only tackling the behaviour of one side alone. You have to tackle it all. Turning a blind eye to your own club's fans' behaviour on here won't make any difference.

As far as I can see, no other group of fans on here indulge in it, only a few (and certainly not all) Hibs fans - those same fans that want to continue to indulge in it and point there fingers elsewhere when challenged.

I sometimes wonder if any of you actually want to tackle sectarianism at all.

[hibeejim21]

As I keep on saying - you cannot remove sectarian behaviour in Scottish football by only tackling the behaviour of one side alone. 

Agreed. The SFA and the authorities should be clobbering you and celtic for it.

[Trusevich]

And Aberdeen, and Hearts and Hibs. Or is their sectarianism acceptable?

Your finger only points away from your share of the problem.

[hibeejim21]