[jjamez]

There was a lot said about a Goodman blunder before we signed him, personally Im in the camp of we shouldn't have signed him in the first place. Thats not hindsight or a dig at him either.

Personally, I'm against loaning goalkeepers full stop, unless absolutely necessary or they are signing permanent straight after. Yes that means I wouldn't have signed ward etc. I think because it's a specialist position and only one can play, there's enough decent or competent ones out there for there to be no need to loan one just off the cuff, a manager or dof should be able to locate one. This season we had chapman and nicholls, both capable numero Uno, the third choice should be a young lad coming through or someone at the back end of their career with a good professional attitude, maybe working towards coaching badges. It worked for us with Bennett, colgan, rob green etc, you're actually signing them with the view of them just helping off field.

Now there was some rumours of nicholls leaving, but it should have been a bridge crossed when it happens rather than preempted, and if it did happen there's plenty of options out there

[Lord Snooty]

I think it's just a case of Grant wanted Goodman and he doesn't rate Nicholls. Or Chapman. It's poor decision making that's letting Goodman down, but it's a trait of the modern game. Just watching the Hibs keeper doing it now against Celtic. Passing to a defender with an attacker right behind him.

Just clobber it clear, man.

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[theo_luddite]

You can blame the defence for giving away two free kicks on the edge of the box. That their 2nd goal was a soft shot curled round the wall on the floor that he should have either held onto or pushed it sideways, as his team mates rightly told him, when he only parried it straight back into the path of the Wimbledon players who knew was coming and were doing their job, following up. Their 3rd was a header in the middle of the 6yd box that we didn't defend properly either but he also stood rooted to his line when he should have been coming out to at least get a fist on it (or the goalscorers head).

If a former goalkeeper as our manager can't get a keeper sorted out, I don't know who will. He might go on to get 100 caps for Canada but right now he's struggling to get 100 bottle caps.

[Devongone]

Lee Nicholls is still okay but you need two keepers available and your second keeper is way behind Chesterfield's two keepers in my opinion and perhaps that of your manager too. He looks competent then the next minute he gives everyone an attack of the heebeejeebies.

Loaning in a keeper for the season often tends to be a response to not having a proper youth policy.

But the problem is for all teams how do you develop a young keeper to the level you need? Liverpool have two of the best five keepers in the world, how other than the loan system could they ever see if they can survive competitive football? The training ground is never going to tell you.

Dropping Goodman sounds like a solution, but what if Lee Nicholls breaks his arm five minutes into the next game? Will Goodman now find his game because he feels needed and nothing like an impostor? Or will he drown because his problem was something else entirely? If someone is failing in any job, especially if it is one he has the reputation of being capable of, then you need to find out why. Your manager obviously rates him, so it is his job. After all he was a keeper.

[theo_luddite]

Exactly, but the 10,000+ fans, that are currently turning up to watch, love a scapegoat at Town and he's firmly in the crosshairs right now. There's at least one every season. I don't like having a go, I really like to (mistakenly) think they all are playing 2 divisions below where they (and we) should be, but 'ey up over 50 years and change of me not having a go has got us back into League One again.

The "official" gate based on Season Tickets sold might apparently be higher than my estimated gate on Saturday but I've been in that stadium since it opened, including a game or two every season when I lived over the pond. I've a reasonable idea of what an empty seat looks like.

Might explain why our Half-Season Cards, which cover 13 games of the 23 at home, are almost 1/3rd of the price of our Full Fat Season Cards too. A lot of Town fans voted with their credit/bank cards this season. Many that paid are obviously fed up with watching piss poor football in a piss poor division. Tried to tell 'em that said they'd rather we'd be winning in a division lower than struggling in a division higher. Would they listen? Short memories of how piss poor football is in this division, whether they foolishly try to play out from the back or not. Got what they asked for and they still don't turn up.

Honestly got to wonder why I stlll do the 220 mile round trip some days when many I know stopped hopping over The Ainleys a long time ago. Yesterday's 3-3 must go down as the worst 6 goal draw seen in football history. Wombles fans might disagree but there was sod all excitement, niggle or anything else that get's you off your seat to stand and cheer. Other than that the ref was crap too, but what's new about that in English football?

[Lord Snooty]

You're right, theo of course. Town fans always need a scapegoat. Even our greatest teams have had them. Most of whom usually go on to have a great career away from Huddersfield.

I mean. Look at that Thomas boy at Stoke. Hounded out of Town because he had an "attitude problem"

[theo_luddite]

He has one at Stoke too Snoots, but he's scoring goals innee and they are in the play -off spots for the first time in Yonks. That and Port Vale aren't doing too well. Those Stokies are easily satisfied. Pass the oatcakes.