[WakeyTerrier]

I see Luton away tickets sold out to Blue and White members, lots of fury knocking about on twitter, Facebook and DATM.

IMO this is a massive OG by Hoyle, at the time he changed the rules I said it was a bad idea and so it has proved to be, very short sighted.

He has tried to fix something that was not broken and has pissed off a lot of supporters that have travelled the country this season but now can't go to Luton because he basically put a charity before the clubs loyal supporters.

[theo_luddite]

Blue & White Members that are Season Ticket Holders aren't loyal supporters then? Huh?

[theo_luddite]

I've been a Season ticket holder for longer than I can remember (sometime back in the 80's I think) and BWF member since it started. By the time I worked out how to get to Luton and what it would cost, the tickets were sold. When there's only 1000 available and likely 5000 (or at least between 2-5000) are looking for them, there's never going to be enough to go round.

I know some will have gone to recently signed up BWF members not long term members, but if you'd have said Season Card Holders only, we've somewhere way north of 10,000 of them - they still wouldn't have taken long to sell out.

BWF costs £8.66 per month, my Season Card renewal was ~£250, so that works out at less than £30/month over the year or about £7.00/week. If you buy one at £299, combined it works out at ~£7.50 that you need to put away each week to pay for it all in one go, or in layman's terms ~2-3 pints of beer a week, depending on where you drink.

£30 is around the typical cost of an away ticket in this division.

[Lord Snooty]

We're saving up for Wembley. Been avoiding going away all season. The costs of following them all around is way out of our financial boundaries these days.

[WakeyTerrier]

I'm not saying they aren't loyal but the system wasn't broken and didn't need fixing. The previous points system worked fine and with a little bit of fine tuning would've been even better for all, all round.

Now Mitzi and I haven't been to many away games this season and I'd already made my mind up not to bother with Luton in the play offs but were I of a different mind I could have bought my way to the front of the queue simply by paying £104ea and been in prime position despite only going to Sheff Wednesday and Coventry. Now how is that right?

As discussed on DATM, Dean came in and changed it without even consulting the ATT panel. They raised objections and Dean still did it anyway, If that had been Phil Hodgkinson or even Ken Davy all and sundry would be having a pop at this now

[Lord Snooty]

How on earth do proper big clubs manage?

Never mind that. How on earth are Luton gonna get Kenilworth Road Premier League ready if they do go up? We had to get millions spent on the JSS to get it updated.

[theo_luddite]

They've got plans approved (sort of) for a new ground. Entry will still be through someone's back garden, or the old Vauxhall plant car park apparently - got to keep some traditions going in Luton. TBH I thought it was supposed to be nearer to the M1 at Capability Green - so maybe some newspaper mischief going on there, but there you go. They may therefore be granted "special dispensation" but they'll need to turn the wick up a tad on them there floodlights to make 'em Prima Donna League quality at least. Their TV gantry is now on the roof of the Beach Huts at one side of the ground rather than in The Main Stand - so they'll just need to extend that a bit. Whether it's covered or not, I haven't a scooby doo.

Don't disagree on the "it weren't bust so why fix it" with the points system Wakey, but there were plenty on DATM and elsewhere that moaned about that points system too. They'd followed Town round the 4 corners of the earth (well England and a bit of Wales) and then couldn't get tickets because they'd somehow flown under the radar. Never registered with Town for anything, paid on the gate when they could or had a mate that got them a ticket when they couldn't. Always got themselves to the game without using the Town coaches and claimed they'd spent a fortune on Town. Town didn't know they existed - other than someone had paid on the gate at home matches.

Well, they'd spent a fortune alright, but not a penny of it went to Town when they went to an away game. I don't doubt they still think the gate receipts are "shared". The away side gets about 10% of the value of away tickets sold to cover costs.

Normally the home side pays the away sides reasonable travel and hotel costs if required. (Apparently up to £2400 for both). That's it, all done so the "Big 6" got to keep the lions share of the home revenue that they generate of course. This changes in the play-offs.

Also at a rough estimation - Luton 10,000 tickets £30 each (I know there's concessions but round numbers and all that) = £300,000. Town tickets between £20 & £10, say average £15 x 20,000 = £300,000. Obv that increases towards £400,000 if the average gets nearer to £20 and more than 20,000 are sold. Believe that for the play-offs, there is some more equitable revenue sharing with the EFL also taking a significant cut plus both teams get TV money. If both clubs generate a similar amount of brass, it makes the accounting a bit easier. However, I also think the total pot from all 4 semi's is shared equally, not just the games you play in.

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See Section 5 & 6 - https://www.efl.com/clubs-and-competitio...gulations/ - not quite the total pot but a good chunck of it.

[theo_luddite]

Ince and Smiffy released by Smoke City

[Amelia Chaffinch]

According to themaclad's thread, Scunny have released Harry Bunn. Hope he gets signed by someone.

[jjamez]

Andy Morrison, did he play for us? If so he's the new head coach of the Sri lankan football team