[Salopbaggie]

I have a (little tongue in cheek) question!

If we assume clubs bring in players and pay them to play football for the club and that, to the very best of their ability, why do clubs pay 'win bonuses'? Why do we pay strikers, goal bonuses, isn't that what they get paid for and why they command the highest wages and transfer fees? Do goalkeeper get a bonus for every save?

My question: 'Why don't we have loss deductions, instead of win bonuses'? While I would not expect Norwich to beat Man City away and perhaps that may justify a win bonus, do Man City players deserve a bonus for beating Norwich at home?

Perhaps some type system is needed, a simplified system might be, beat a team above you in the league you get a bonus, lose to one below you, you get a deduction, it would certainly bring a bit of effort into the workplace.

[Ska'dForLife-WBA]

While it's a nice idea in theory, I imagine employment law would probably stand in the way of performance-related deductions from a salary, and with good cause (it wouldn't hurt multi-millionaire footballers for a minute, but if the idea spread through society to be used against people on minimum wage it would be catastrophic). Moreover, I'm not sure how much guys who are already set for life are really bothered about one-off financial bonuses or deductions either way.

To make it even simpler and genuinely meaningful to guys cushioned from financial hardship, I'd say that giving them extra free time - or taking it away - is the answer. Lose a match you should be winning? Then you're in for an extra day's training on what should have been your day off. Win an all-important crunch match? You're excused a day's training and can enjoy a three-day "weekend".

I suspect that men who couldn't care less about whether they gain or lose £50k will soon sharpen up if you threaten to take away the Sunday they spend with the wife and kids, or bringing down their golf handicap.

[talkSAFT]

It sickens me that Money is any incentive to 'up-your-game'.

I'm serious....... Whether that's League 2 wages or Top of the Prem wages.
Surely Pride and Ambition are the driving-force. And any Coaches who get the whiff that their players strive harder for the benefit of win bonuses should take that view into account when they measure the player's worth (and whether to risk playing them every week).
I know I've got a very cynical view of today's ridiculously overpaid twats, but................

[Dingle-Dingle]

Thought the "Bonus" system was points related, paid into a pot and shared out at end of season pro rata.

DD

[Salopbaggie]

While it's a nice idea in theory, I imagine employment law would probably stand in the way of performance-related deductions from a salary, and with good cause (it wouldn't hurt multi-millionaire footballers for a minute, but if the idea spread through society to be used against people on minimum wage it would be catastrophic).  Moreover, I'm not sure how much guys who are already set for life are really bothered about one-off financial bonuses or deductions either way.

It was only tongue in cheek, though I am not to sure that employment law would come into it and I do have some experience in the area. I understand your justifiable concerns, but those situations used to exist and while bankers and the likes walked away with muti-million pound bonuses, Joe Bloggs who was on 'peace work' was only paid on the basis of amount of productivity. Also we have to remember while footballers are under-contract, they are still technically self employed for tax reasons and because under employment law, letting them go would create no end of issues, if they were employees. I would have thought a player deduction would be more like you lowering the amount you paid a tradesman for doing a poor job, you pay some one to paint 4 walls and they only paint three would you pay them for painting all 4? You employ a striker to come score you some goals and they don't???

[silverbaggie]

Cheltenham Town had a very important Centre back poached by Wrexham at the end of last season.
So a guy who was idolised by the Robin's fans drops two levels just for more money.
So it's not just happening in the Greed League.

[Baggiebob(BBB)]

SalopbaggieI have a (little tongue in cheek) question!

If we assume clubs bring in players and pay them to play football for the club and that, to the very best of their ability, why do clubs pay 'win bonuses'?  Why do we pay strikers, goal bonuses, isn't that what they get paid for and why they command the highest wages and transfer fees?  Do goalkeeper get a bonus for every save?

My question: 'Why don't we have loss deductions, instead of win bonuses'?  While I would not expect Norwich to beat Man City away and perhaps that may justify a win bonus, do Man City players deserve a bonus for beating Norwich at home?

Perhaps some type system is needed, a simplified system might be, beat a team above you in the league you get a bonus, lose to one below you, you get a deduction, it would certainly bring a bit of effort into the workplace.

I agree wholeheartedly with your last sentence, Salop, with reservations. Which is, it would be unfair for those players who have been giving their all in the match. Probably best on players ratings in the match.
Also bonuses go to those people win or lose, and deductions for the others.