20-05-2021, 00:07
We are now on the look out for a new manager as Allardyce will leave at the end of the season.
Wilder
Maresca
Howe
AN other
Wilder
Maresca
Howe
AN other
Allardyce Gone
20-05-2021, 00:55
(This post was last modified: 20-05-2021, 01:38 by Slick_Footwork.)
Personally I'm neither disappointed or happy about it... There's an element of both emotions...
As I mentioned in the other thread, I think we have a massive rebuild ahead of us. When you take out Yokuslu, Gallagher and Maitland-Niles, there is little energy about this squad. When you take our Pereira, there is little creativity. Our squad is thin on the ground and we'll need to replace Robson-Kanu, Gibbs, Austin, Grosicki and the rest of the out of contract players, because you need back ups. Actually when you take loanees out of the equation, some are actually first teamers.
The slight disappointment is that the rebuild feels that big bigger without Big Sam, because he knew what this squad needed to compete. He was getting the best out of the likes of Bartley.
I also think there are a lot worse managers out there... Managers who waste big money on poor players, or those who can't see a squad's shortcomings...
But I'm happy because it feels like Allardyce divides opinions far too much for us to ever be united with him at the helm. Also it feels like he might've burnt his bridges with the likes of Grady and Robinson, who are going to be very important next season. There are good young managers out there who are capable of bringing the feel good factor back and they are probably a better fit for us...
And we need that feel good factor after this ridiculous year...
But ultimately success isn't in the hands of the manager - whoever it is - it's in the hands of the board...
Are they going to release the purse strings to sign those 6-7 players we need to replace the loanees and outgoings?
If not, any manager is going to fail. What we're left with is a very average, aging Championship side.
However if they do push money generated from player sales into the squad, then with the right man at the helm we should be in with a shout of returning. I'm nervous that some of the names linked have a track record of wasting millions; particularly Howe, who bought dreadfully at Bournemouth. Not that Wilder's record in the transfer market was much better. I'd perhaps prefer a left field choice from abroad to bring the feel good factor like Slaven did, but with a better eye for a defensive midfielder!
Like Josh, I'd like Marco Silva myself.
Bo Svensson also doing a really good job at Mainz and could be a shout, but maybe too much of a gamble because of his inexperience. Always liked Quique Flores, although his spell at Watford last season wasn't fruitful.
Maresca on paper would bring the feel good factor like no other, but honestly that would be a real experimental appointment. Too much of a gamble for me.
As I mentioned in the other thread, I think we have a massive rebuild ahead of us. When you take out Yokuslu, Gallagher and Maitland-Niles, there is little energy about this squad. When you take our Pereira, there is little creativity. Our squad is thin on the ground and we'll need to replace Robson-Kanu, Gibbs, Austin, Grosicki and the rest of the out of contract players, because you need back ups. Actually when you take loanees out of the equation, some are actually first teamers.
The slight disappointment is that the rebuild feels that big bigger without Big Sam, because he knew what this squad needed to compete. He was getting the best out of the likes of Bartley.
I also think there are a lot worse managers out there... Managers who waste big money on poor players, or those who can't see a squad's shortcomings...
But I'm happy because it feels like Allardyce divides opinions far too much for us to ever be united with him at the helm. Also it feels like he might've burnt his bridges with the likes of Grady and Robinson, who are going to be very important next season. There are good young managers out there who are capable of bringing the feel good factor back and they are probably a better fit for us...
And we need that feel good factor after this ridiculous year...
But ultimately success isn't in the hands of the manager - whoever it is - it's in the hands of the board...
Are they going to release the purse strings to sign those 6-7 players we need to replace the loanees and outgoings?
If not, any manager is going to fail. What we're left with is a very average, aging Championship side.
However if they do push money generated from player sales into the squad, then with the right man at the helm we should be in with a shout of returning. I'm nervous that some of the names linked have a track record of wasting millions; particularly Howe, who bought dreadfully at Bournemouth. Not that Wilder's record in the transfer market was much better. I'd perhaps prefer a left field choice from abroad to bring the feel good factor like Slaven did, but with a better eye for a defensive midfielder!
Like Josh, I'd like Marco Silva myself.
Bo Svensson also doing a really good job at Mainz and could be a shout, but maybe too much of a gamble because of his inexperience. Always liked Quique Flores, although his spell at Watford last season wasn't fruitful.
Maresca on paper would bring the feel good factor like no other, but honestly that would be a real experimental appointment. Too much of a gamble for me.
20-05-2021, 02:32
Well Josh will be glad Marco Silva is in the betting at 33-1, sounds bad but the second favourite is Lampard at 14-1, Wilder runaway fav at 1-3 on.
20-05-2021, 08:41
Well, it's just a shrug of the shoulders from me - no emotion whatsoever, which probably says everything.
WE seem to be a bit of a crisis club atm though with the farcical owner position we have; this next appointment is a real bigee.
WE seem to be a bit of a crisis club atm though with the farcical owner position we have; this next appointment is a real bigee.
20-05-2021, 10:10
My feelings are similar to Slick’s. I’ve been critical of Allardyce but I was disappointed when I heard he was leaving, not just because I do recognise he has improved the side but also because the alternative names being mentioned in the Press just seem so uninspiring. I’m fully expecting Wilder to be appointed, which, for me, is not the right choice. Neither am I in the camp of wanting to blindly appoint an ex-Baggie, as I’ve seen other fans advocating (not on this board I should say), although I think Appleton has significantly improved these last few seasons and is worth considering.
I really do think this appointment is so critical for the club that, for once, I would actually support us taking our time, although I recognise that’s a dangerous suggestion for our Board.
I really do think this appointment is so critical for the club that, for once, I would actually support us taking our time, although I recognise that’s a dangerous suggestion for our Board.
The light at the end of the tunnel is the light of an oncoming train
I do think Sam departing after the Leeds game is the right decision. His statement shows some class and that he has put the club first in his decision.
Who he will be replaced by is troubling when guys like Howe and Wilder have been linked to the job. Howe I would accept but not Wilder. The club needs to take their time with this appointment rather than just pick the first guy they think of. They also shouldn't pull an Albion and waste the next 6-8 weeks on it either.
Who he will be replaced by is troubling when guys like Howe and Wilder have been linked to the job. Howe I would accept but not Wilder. The club needs to take their time with this appointment rather than just pick the first guy they think of. They also shouldn't pull an Albion and waste the next 6-8 weeks on it either.
20-05-2021, 10:55
Howe has agreed to take the celtic job apparently. I wouldn't go near Maresca or Wilder either.
20-05-2021, 11:00
I would hope that the club has been doing lots of preparation for this as it was very likely that Sam would step down. If they do not have a short-list at least I would be horrified - I'd be impressed if they had already someone prepped and ready to announce.
20-05-2021, 11:27
(This post was last modified: 20-05-2021, 13:06 by Slick_Footwork.)
Reading between the lines of Allardyce's exit statement, I would assume one of the following reasons is genuine.
1) He doesn't think that he would get backed enough to get us promoted, so has chose to exit rather than further ruin his reputation.
2) He thinks at his age, he's no longer suited to a long term job and simply not retiring because he might get offered a short term role with a bumper bonus off to save a team from relegation.
Obviously he's positioned it as #2. I hope that is the real reason and the board are planning to back the next manager, because we really need it with so many out of contract players. It might very well be true, because at his age, who wants to commit to 2-3 years in a role.
I'd be really shocked if anyone other than Wilder will get the job. He wouldn't be my choice because I can't get over the big money signings at Sheffield United, which all seemed to be massive wastes of money (with the exception of Sander Berge). However to provide balance, a friend is an Oxford fan and they all said he Wilder a superb job there, followed up with promotions at both Northampton and Sheffield United; neither of which had good budgets. His credentials do supersede the other candidates on paper. I just really can't put my backing behind someone that spends £20m on Oli McBurnie. With the tight purse strings here, we need to make every signing count. Also he's probably burnt bridges with Robinson too, who could be one of our most important players next season.
1) He doesn't think that he would get backed enough to get us promoted, so has chose to exit rather than further ruin his reputation.
2) He thinks at his age, he's no longer suited to a long term job and simply not retiring because he might get offered a short term role with a bumper bonus off to save a team from relegation.
Obviously he's positioned it as #2. I hope that is the real reason and the board are planning to back the next manager, because we really need it with so many out of contract players. It might very well be true, because at his age, who wants to commit to 2-3 years in a role.
I'd be really shocked if anyone other than Wilder will get the job. He wouldn't be my choice because I can't get over the big money signings at Sheffield United, which all seemed to be massive wastes of money (with the exception of Sander Berge). However to provide balance, a friend is an Oxford fan and they all said he Wilder a superb job there, followed up with promotions at both Northampton and Sheffield United; neither of which had good budgets. His credentials do supersede the other candidates on paper. I just really can't put my backing behind someone that spends £20m on Oli McBurnie. With the tight purse strings here, we need to make every signing count. Also he's probably burnt bridges with Robinson too, who could be one of our most important players next season.
20-05-2021, 12:26
He obviously couldn't get what he wanted - money for players to get us up again.
Which means we're going cheapskate - so get the owner OUT.
Which means we're going cheapskate - so get the owner OUT.
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