[spireitematt]

With the Governments announcement of no fans being allowed at sporting events could it put the whole season in jeopardy? National League say they don't want to start without fans and then furlough runs out in October and that means if there are no fans and clubs have no money coming in then it won't be long till they have to shut down altogether and call it a day and the worrying thing is we could be one of them.

If grassroots, non-league go then it won't be long till it hits L2, L1 and the Championship. Premier League will carry on due to TV money but the rest of the football pyramid will slowly disappear.

What I don't understand is you can go to the pub before 10pm and see 6 of your friends socially distanced of course or go to a cinema or a restaurant but you can't sit outside in the open air socially distanced to watch football. Apparently its all ok if you do grouse shooting though.

[Devongone]

Ooooh Matt you got political there. You know very well those moors are open to you, and if you get yourself a gun, and a beater and buy a small estate you'll be able to bag yourself a few grice.

For Chesterfield with a ground capacity of almost 12,000 and a peak attendance of perhaps 3,500 it would be possible to operate ludicrous social distancing and play games, but for many of our rivals it might be harder. If the season doesn't go ahead, and that seems to be the only answer in the light of the new, but possibly imaginary crisis, it will kill us, most of our rivals and most lower league teams. The context is 450 die every day from cancer, about 190 from dementia and Covid is currently a slightly bigger killer than suicide. Almost no one who is fit and healthy and under 50 has contracted the virus and died from it. So why not protect the old, who don't play football, and will certainly be very careful if they do attend matches? WE, THE OLD, die from Covid, especially if they put us in homes or send us to hospital to meet other infected people. Spend your billions if you must protecting us and those with whom we must meet, but I wish you wouldn't.

People swallow all the pronouncements of science, but science is a process of heading towards right or wrong answers. It revises and reassesses. It evaluates evidence and collects data. At the moment we hear about tests administered and results, but no one mentions that the test cannot even distinguish between infected and infectious and also provides negatives and positives which later prove false. So, though much is made of the R number, which isn't a number anyway, it is merely an educated guess. On the basis of this we are acquiescing to the deprivation of liberty and the slow-motion car crash into which our way of life is being driven. But then we slaughter cattle and badgers on the basis of a test which has never been more than 70% accurate, so we've got previous.

Do we want our football clubs to die? Do we want gran to die of loneliness and Matt Hancock?

In Switzerland and Germany you can get a test by seeing your GP. Here you get to ring 111. and when you return from Inverness you lock yourself in your bedroom, and several people have less success phoning your friends than you would if you were on Millionaire being asked a question on Estruscan pottery.

We live in a vastly over-populated country in a world crammed with 8 billion of us doing their best to wipe their own species from the planet. And we are stopping everything because 1 million people died ....... and that because we just can't help allowing animal ailments to jump species and start killing us instead. That is 1 million of 8 Billion. And at the end of all the headless-chicken changes of direction the disease will still exist. It is there. We can't stop it. This isn't The War of the Worlds.

What's that cute little green and blue planet?
Oh a few fairly primitive primates live there in rudimentary societies. They once had an advanced technological and artistic culture.
What happened sir?
They destroyed themselves for fear of dying son.
But doesn't everything have to die, if new things are being born?
Maybe you'd like to go down and explain that.

[Dancingwilldoit]

Looks like it will start Oct 3rd after all. Hope they get it sorted. Maybe some kind of pay per view plus government bail out.

[themaclad]

If they get the go ahead for live streaming of games which might be a god send for some

[Dancingwilldoit]

Games will now be streamed live. Good news for a change. Now you dont need to move back to Chesterfield Dev

[Devongone]

Well there are other good things about Derbyshire Dancing, but it is good news.

I met a Mansfield fan this week.

He's in the garden now.

Well "in" is something of an understatement. It suggests there might be an "out" and

[Dancingwilldoit]

I met one once Dev, probably the same one, they are a bit rare.

[Devongone]

Sometimes in needs to be interpreted as under.

Exeter did the business on Saturday.

[themaclad]

Rescue package apparently agreed

[themaclad]

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