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(13-05-2019, 14:30)BaggieSteve Wrote: Assuming that we won't be getting promoted this year, then I'd like to see us appoint a manager with fresh ideas, someone who is prepared to play the outstanding talent coming through the Academy, someone who can see beyond signing past it British players looking for a final pay check to top up their pension. So, on that basis, no I'm not keen on Chris Hughton or, to be honest, any of the usual British managerial suspects whose names will be bandied about and whose ideas, too often, are stuck in a straightjacket. I'd like to see us spread the net wide, taking in overseas coaches. I don't know who that would be but I'm sure Josh could suggest a few.

However, knowing our owners/managers, then it will be the cheapest option possible with no real concern for the club...so, Hughton it will be!

If we're going for the cheapest option (which is a very fair assumption), Hughton is probably out of our reach.
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1 option has gone. Achim Beierlorzer has been appointed as new Head Coach of Köln, who were promoted back to the Bundesliga last Monday night.

As for Hughton, I’d take him if we’re looking at strictly British appointments. He isn’t your typical British Coach because his teams do play good football and he actually signs good players from abroad such as Größ, Locadia and Propper rather than just looking at British players.

My first choice has been snapped up (Beierlorzer) so Hughton is in my top 3 at this point in time.
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Josh:
".... He isn’t your typical British Coach because his teams do play good football"?

The Brighton fans don't seem to agree?!
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Drewks, I think that is more to do with the greed league rather than Hughton, our first few promotions we played pretty, attacking football. We got beat, sometimes heavily, we got relegated, we adapted, played less attractive, less expansive football, we stayed up. The need to not lose becomes greater than the need to entertain .... wrong but true. Most greed league teams i.e. not the FA's exclusive members club of six, play dull do not lose football.

Short term he would probably entertain and maybe get us promoted ...... after that the greed league takes over.
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(14-05-2019, 09:25)4evaabaggie Wrote: Short term he would probably entertain and maybe get us promoted ...... after that the greed league takes over.

Sad, but very very true 4eva Thumb up
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(14-05-2019, 08:57)drewks Wrote: Josh:
".... He isn’t your typical British Coach because his teams do play good football"?

The Brighton fans don't seem to agree?!

My opinion is based on the times I have seen them play since their promotion. Now admittedly I could be wrong because Brighton fans will know more than me about this.
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(14-05-2019, 09:52)bomberbrown1968 Wrote:
(14-05-2019, 09:25)4evaabaggie Wrote: Short term he would probably entertain and maybe get us promoted ...... after that the greed league takes over.

Sad, but very very true 4eva  Thumb up

This is the reason why I am falling out of love with football, I love the Albion, I barely go anymore, I do not subscribe to biased sports channels, same goes for MotD, I have never watched an also ran league match.
Football should be more equal, more competitive, they have just crowned the 2019-20, 2020-21 and 2021-22 premier league champions ..... it's Man City. A cynical view but almost true.

It's a bit like the old joke "someone broke into the Kremlin yesterday and stole next year's election results", football has become predictable, one team in Scotland, maybe three teams in England, two in Spain, one in Italy, I could probably go on.

Bring on a European super league. .... let the favoured clubs leave, let real people have real football.

Here ends the party political broadcast for the footexit party.
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(14-05-2019, 10:49)4evaabaggie Wrote:
(14-05-2019, 09:52)bomberbrown1968 Wrote:
(14-05-2019, 09:25)4evaabaggie Wrote: Short term he would probably entertain and maybe get us promoted ...... after that the greed league takes over.

Sad, but very very true 4eva  Thumb up

This is the reason why I am falling out of love with football, I love the Albion, I barely go anymore, I do not subscribe to biased sports channels, same goes for MotD, I have never watched an also ran league match.
Football should be more equal, more competitive, they have just crowned the 2019-20, 2020-21 and 2021-22 premier league champions ..... it's Man City. A cynical view but almost true.

It's a bit like the old joke "someone broke into the Kremlin yesterday and stole next year's election results", football has become predictable, one team in Scotland, maybe three teams in England, two in Spain, one in Italy, I could probably go on.

Bring on a European super league. .... let the favoured clubs leave, let real people have real football.

Here ends the party political broadcast for the footexit party.

I disagree to a point with this. When has it ever been any different? I started watching football in the mid 70s, since that time only 7 teams outside the current top 6 have won the title - Leicester, Blackburn (24 yrs ago), L**ds (27), Everton (32), Villa (38), Forest (41) and Derby (45). In fact to find the next previous winners from outside this group you would have to go back to Ipswich who won it 57 years ago!!! In my time watching football the league has always pretty much been dominated by a few teams with the occasional other team getting in the mix - in the 70s and 80s it was Liverpool (11 titles over 20 years) with Arsenal in 2nd picking up 3 titles. In the 90s Man Utd won 6 titles, Arsenal won 2 and in the 2000s Man Utd won 6 again and Chelsea won 3. Sine them Man City have won 4, Chelsea 3 and MU 2. The domination by the top teams has been there for essentially a lifetime!!

The one difference is the difficulty to break into that top 6 now because of the money, but as an outsider to the PL for 20 odd years now, the fact there are 6 teams who could potentially win it is an improvement on the much smaller number each season in the past. Sure Man City and Liverpool are ahead at the moment, but that will change over the next few years again like it has done over the past few years. Other European Leagues have never really changed - Barca and RM have always dominated in Spain, Bayern Munich have dominated in Germany for a generation, Celtic/Rangers have won every title for the last 34 years and currently no one is anywhere near stopping Celtic for the next decade!!

Football since the 1960s has been dominated by a select few teams with few exceptions to that, it really isn't that different now.
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SCO, Liverpool were dominant but they didn't do it by spending millions, the rest of the league we're even and competitive now it's the top six and that's it. You can't spend money to compete as ffp forbids it, academy's get raided by the top six for little or no money, decisions favour the big boys and normal clubs just make up the numbers.
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(14-05-2019, 21:00)St Charles Owl Wrote:
(14-05-2019, 10:49)4evaabaggie Wrote:
(14-05-2019, 09:52)bomberbrown1968 Wrote:
(14-05-2019, 09:25)4evaabaggie Wrote: Short term he would probably entertain and maybe get us promoted ...... after that the greed league takes over.

Sad, but very very true 4eva  Thumb up

This is the reason why I am falling out of love with football, I love the Albion, I barely go anymore, I do not subscribe to biased sports channels, same goes for MotD, I have never watched an also ran league match.
Football should be more equal, more competitive, they have just crowned the 2019-20, 2020-21 and 2021-22 premier league champions ..... it's Man City. A cynical view but almost true.

It's a bit like the old joke "someone broke into the Kremlin yesterday and stole next year's election results", football has become predictable, one team in Scotland, maybe three teams in England, two in Spain, one in Italy, I could probably go on.

Bring on a European super league. .... let the favoured clubs leave, let real people have real football.

Here ends the party political broadcast for the footexit party.

I disagree to a point with this.  When has it ever been any different?  I started watching football in the mid 70s, since that time only 7 teams outside the current top 6 have won the title - Leicester, Blackburn (24 yrs ago), L**ds (27), Everton (32), Villa (38), Forest (41) and Derby (45).  In fact to find the next previous winners from outside this group you would have to go back to Ipswich who won it 57 years ago!!!  In my time watching football the league has always pretty much been dominated by a few teams with the occasional other team getting in the mix - in the 70s and 80s it was Liverpool (11 titles over 20 years) with Arsenal in 2nd picking up 3 titles.  In the 90s Man Utd won 6 titles, Arsenal won 2 and in the 2000s Man Utd won 6 again and Chelsea won 3.  Sine them Man City have won 4, Chelsea 3 and MU 2.  The domination by the top teams has been there for essentially a lifetime!!

The one difference is the difficulty to break into that top 6 now because of the money, but as an outsider to the PL for 20 odd years now, the fact there are 6 teams who could potentially win it is an improvement on the much smaller number each season in the past.  Sure Man City and Liverpool are ahead at the moment, but that will change over the next few years again like it has done over the past few years.  Other European Leagues have never really changed - Barca and RM have always dominated in Spain, Bayern Munich have dominated in Germany for a generation, Celtic/Rangers have won every title for the last 34 years and currently no one is anywhere near stopping Celtic for the next decade!!

Football since the 1960s has been dominated by a select few teams with few exceptions to that, it really isn't that different now.

But the teams who've *contested* the title race have changed irrevocably. Go back through the years you've mentioned and find me all the Newcastles, the Norwiches, the Villas, the Ipswiches, and even the West Bromwich Albions who were in the race in days gone by. You said it yourself: the top six is unchangeable. That there's a greater variance in who ends up champion from the days of dynastic success by Liverpool and Man Utd is neither here nor there: there's a glass ceiling in place that only Leicester have broken in nearly two decades, and they fell right back through it again.

To support your team back then was to believe that in an exceptionally good season, you might be in the hunt to be champions. To support your team now is to accept that even in the Premier League, such a thing is a financial impossibility from the word go, save for one solitary season when the stars aligned for Leicester in a way they never will again.
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