[Tom_Wba]

I give up! (well till boxing day) seriously though I've been critical all season about Irvine I've give up moaning now to be honest. What will be will be! There is so much wrong at the football club and Irvine is just one of the problems

[tidy]

You can pin the blame on AI till the cows come home but the bottom line is that we are simply not good enough.

He played Varela and Ideye in an attack minded set up. We didnt sit back or park the bus but still mnanaged to give up a 2 goal lead.

With City and Stoke coming up then this is the end my football for this season. Just gonna try and chill now waiting for the enevitable.

Happy Christmas.

[Ska'dForLife-WBA]

To breathe life into that old cliché of football being a game of two halves, today it was two different halves of the pitch: the best attacking performance we've delivered all season, and yet the worst defensive display since spring. Set-piece defending; all over the shop. Pathetic and unacceptable. Why the hell is it that we can't have a bit of balance? Why do we either set up with ten defenders and scrap our way to a 0-0 draw, or go adventurous and surrender 2-0 and 3-0 leads? There must be a happy medium between attack and defence; we should be able to kill off games! Most clubs manage it! It's beyond me.

Brown Ideye; I really want this bloke to do well, but at the moment it'd feel like an accomplishment if he got a shot on target, let alone a goal. At least two chances today he could have done a lot better with, if not scored.

Most worryingly, I fear this performance and result may just push Irvine back into his negative shell. Grrrrrr. Not much else to say. Going to dig out a film to watch.

[WillieJohnstonsGreenhouse]

I'm not Irvine's greatest fan but you can't blame him for THAT!!!!!!!

We started well, played some lovely football then blew the lot.

Going to dig out a beer to drink

[Slick_Footwork]

If Irvine doesn't pick the best team, of course he can be blamed.

Yes, the team he picked did get us 2-0 up - but is it our best side? Not in my book.

We wouldn't always be under the cosh if we had the capability of passing, moving and keeping the ball in midfield.

Yacob and Mulumbu are obvious improvements on what Irvine deems to be the best. Gardner is a very average footballer at best, if there isn't an obvious pass staring him in the face, he just lumps the ball. As for Dorrans, he wouldn't look anymore than average in the Championship. He was a good player 3 years ago, but it's not coming back now.

I believed Ideye deserved a chance, but at the expense of Saido? Clearly our best player so far this season. NO way.

Eased in from the bench gradually would make sense. For the record, the guy looks like a complete cart horse so far.

These decisions are costing us points. Yes, we made individual errors today. But if Irvine picked our strongest team, we would be better. That's obvious to me. Hell, the guy didn't even pick Varela until Brunt was injured and frankly, all of our decent football comes through him.

[wba_1996]

You can pin the blame on AI till the cows come home but the bottom line is that we are simply not good enough.

He played Varela and Ideye in an attack minded set up. We didnt sit back or park the bus but still mnanaged to give up a 2 goal lead.

With City and Stoke coming up then this is the end my football for this season. Just gonna try and chill now waiting for the enevitable.

Happy Christmas.

Can't agree with that, not one of QPR's players bar Austin would get in our starting XI. A competent head coach who could teach basic set piece defending and we win that 2-0. I'm not blaming AI alone for today, players switching off and every single coach and head coach at this club since Hodgson left have contributed to this. We need someone who can drill a defence and teach us the basics of holding on to a lead. I will be disgusted if get get relegated and a bunch of cloggers such as Hill, Dunne, Barton, Henry and Zamora stay up.

[bomberbrown1968]

As much as I'm on my soapbox that Irvine shouldn't be there, today had nothing to do with selection or tactics although I do think Dorrans must have some sordid photos or videos of Irvine in a safe deposit box somewhere.

We had the match won after 20 minutes, playing some nice stuff and looking like we could open them up at will.

No change in tactics we didn't drop deep with what we had but we certainly hit the self destruct button out on the pitch, no qualms with the pen, moment of stupidity by Mozza right in front of the ref from a corner Foster should have collected, only thing I'd say is 99 times out of 100 they're not given. Then we concede 2 more from 2 more corners. Rank bad defending all round.

I'd say through no fault of his own, Irvine's back in the smelly stuff with City & Stoke on the horizon. For all the players saying they're behind him, they certainly didn't do him any favours today

[Slick_Footwork]

Can't agree with that, not one of QPR's players bar Austin would get in our starting XI. A competent head coach who could teach basic set piece defending and we win that 2-0. I'm not blaming AI alone for today, players switching off and every single coach and head coach at this club since Hodgson left have contributed to this. We need someone who can drill a defence and teach us the basics of holding on to a lead. I will be disgusted if get get relegated and a bunch of cloggers such as Hill, Dunne, Barton, Henry and Zamora stay up.

Exactly this. Our squad is a mid table squad losing to rubbish because we don't have the discipline and cohesion.

We can't keep the ball when we get up in games, we can't defend set plays.

Irvine has to take the blame.

Plus you have the likes of Saido and Mulumbu who are two of our better players (and both capable of keeping the ball) sitting on the bench.

[Foxman_WBA]

That performance was partly AI's fault. We were in desparate need of a change. We could all see that qpr were getting back into the game. But nothing came. All all of the players on the bench so bad that we should leave on a weak dorrans, a non existent sess, a couldn't pick a pass Gardner? Look the players should be playing better than that and if they're not its the managers job to make the change and sort it out. 2 like for like subs in positions that wernt the problem! We even had a sub to spare at the end! Poor poor poor poor poor!

[Tom_Wba]

IRVINE OUT ADKINS IN