[SHEP_HTAFC]

I agree with a lot that has been said.
Hamer was shockingly bad....never even attempted a save for Kante's shot. Kicking out was diabolical. Lossl for next game.
Flo and Lowe were good for the most part. Schindler not at top form, Kongolo was ok.
Billing was really good, my Town m.o.m. Hogg not really on it.
Pritch was really good 1st half....why take him off?
Mounie ok, Depoitre ok. Just not enough service.

Disappointing but there are positives to take from it.

[Lord Snooty]

Wagner says Lossl isn't fit enough. Good to see he's not letting standards drop. Just cause you've been to the World Cup, doesn't mean you can be Billy Bigbollocks and come back unfit expecting to get your place straight back.
Though I would've still preferred him in goal on Saturday myself. As others have said, Hamer's distribution was poor.

[sloppyattheback]

Not a great start to the season in a game many had said was a good time to catch a Chelski team in potential dissaray.

Our 2 tallest players fail to connect to head Willians cross clear and Kante the dwarf shins the opener, I was applauding Schindy for his tackle and corner, not one away supporter shouted pen, but yes on replay he caught the chap - unlucky.

2nd half we didnt have a touch until 70 mins, Waggers thought going 2 up top would be their undoing but we never showed anything nor could pass nor keep the ball, their midfield was just too sharp and Hoggy was running in circles with nothing to bite. Lowe was replaced a good 15 mins too late as the new quick wide players were needed at that point, setting up for a point had gone south about an 40 mins previous.

Hamer is getting stick from all quarters for his kicking but had nothing to do other than pick the ball out of the bag perhaps he was nervous, the run up for pen was class and he was committed going to his right so unless he's a double jointed acrobat he wasnt going to back flip across goal to stop it so lets give him some slack, next week see how he fairs as he's going to be even busier on Sunday sadly.

So not a good day all round for the managemment, players and fans alike, there was barely a peep for 1/2 the 2nd half apart from the away lot.

How 12 months have changed top of the league last year singing about the champions league at Palarse.

[Terrier1987cas]

Plenty of negativity on here and I don't really see why. Any mention of negative tactics or setting up for a draw are completely false - you can't look at a team on paper and decide how they set up. Actually watch the game and we pressed them high and spent the majority of the first half in their third of the pitch, unfortunately our undoing was the same as all last season - poor delivery. The one that does make it's way to big Steve's head is unlucky to hit the post - if that goes in it's a completely different game.

Slack defending let them in behind and Schindler tries in vain to make the challenge but gives away a penalty (I've seen it multiple times and still can't fathom whether it was or wasn't). After that the game's as good as over, but our tactics in the second half were questionable at best. It reminded me of the second half at Bournemouth last season - 2 beasts in the box but no delivery to them whatsoever, very frustrating.

So in summary, Wagner got the team selection correct for me, we didn't play for a draw, more positives than negatives, we won't judge our season on results against the top 6.

[theo_luddite]

There was £70 million worth of goalkeeping talent at the other end of the pitch who's distribution was also less than stellar.

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