[talkSAFT]

Bob Geldof's a very different case.  Even aside from the egotism (and I certainly think there's a lot more of that with him than with Lenny Henry, though that's just personal opinion), the bloke knowingly gave millions in Live Aid cash to a brutal dictator who spent it all on weaponry to kill his own starving people, despite Medecin Sans Frontieres warning him in advance what would happen if he did it.  You can make the genuine argument that Geldof is morally complicit in war crimes as a result of that.  I'm pretty sure that Comic Relief have always been as scrupulous as possible in their dispensation of funds, in contrast.

Blimey! Didn't know that (about the Live Aid cash). Is that really true? Why was he given the cheque book?

[Ska'dForLife-WBA]

Bob Geldof's a very different case.  Even aside from the egotism (and I certainly think there's a lot more of that with him than with Lenny Henry, though that's just personal opinion), the bloke knowingly gave millions in Live Aid cash to a brutal dictator who spent it all on weaponry to kill his own starving people, despite Medecin Sans Frontieres warning him in advance what would happen if he did it.  You can make the genuine argument that Geldof is morally complicit in war crimes as a result of that.  I'm pretty sure that Comic Relief have always been as scrupulous as possible in their dispensation of funds, in contrast.

Blimey! Didn't know that (about the Live Aid cash). Is that really true? Why was he given the cheque book?

I think Geldof's words at the time were "I'll shake hands with the devil to get to the people we need to help." Unfortunately for all concerned, what that actually meant was embracing Mengistu on stage at Live Aid and joking about with his cronies in Addis Ababa while their troops carried out a worse genocide than either Idi Amin or Saddam Hussein ever managed.

The original expose from 1986 is here: https://www.spin.com/featured/live-aid-t...f-feature/

[Amelia Chaffinch]

Yet he continues to behave like he has some moral high ground.

[talkSAFT]

Ska'd, I was going to click "Like" to your post - but that wouldn't be appropriate. Can't believe it's the 1st time I've read all this.

[Beefy 1965]

I don't think it's a case of moaning about playing a couple of games a week,if everybody else played the same amount over the same period,
West ham playing us with what is a six pointer have not played since boxing day
This will be our third game in that period and puts us at a massive disadvantage

[Devongone]

So Christian Aid's money has never bought guns?

So Oxfam's relief is never diverted to the rich and sold for profit?

So Charities and Charity workers never ignore all advice and plough their own furrow, to either eventual applause or condemnation?

So Mother Theresa was more or less than a self-righteous old bat scouring India's streets for the dying to carpet her floors?

Is Charity even a good thing? People trek across hundreds of miles of arctic waste and raise thousands, is it for the money and to help their fellow man or an excuse for the adventure they always craved? In truth aren't these things just a way to be, a way to give meaning to your own life, a relationship with being alive that benefits all involved?

Reputable scientists regularly fall into the trap of ignoring all disconfirming evidence to advance their own theory, so should we be surprised that an intelligent, but very self-willed singer pushes his charity into the hands of a killer alongside all the good work the money he has helped to raise has done? Blair arse-licked appalling dictators, Labour feted Ceaucescu, we complain the Saudis are waging a proxy war in the Yemen and supply the arms to do it. One of the big lessons of the slave trade was that "good men" not evil tyrants and criminals were involved. They built churches and hospitals and schools with the profits of inflicting misery on their fellow men.

Good men fkkuc-upp all the time and most of that time they think they are doing the right thing.

[Arcane Astral Aeons]

I don't think it's a case of moaning about playing a couple of games a week,if everybody else played the same amount over the same period,
West ham playing us with what is a six pointer have not played since boxing day
This will be our third game in that period and puts us at a massive disadvantage

we just a small team
premier league favour the London sides
do the care about us?

NO NO NO NO
west ham playing last on boxing day
we played 48 hrs ago
so much for a level playing field

[Beefy 1965]

I don't think it's a case of moaning about playing a couple of games a week,if everybody else played the same amount over the same period,
West ham playing us with what is a six pointer have not played since boxing day
This will be our third game in that period and puts us at a massive disadvantage

we just a small team
premier league favour the London sides
do the care about us?

NO NO NO NO
west ham playing last on boxing day
we played 48 hrs ago
so much for a level playing field

I think we have just seen the consequences of a team having a week off and a team playing 2 games in two days
Unfair playing field
Ran out of steam 2nd half plain to see

[tidy]

I don't think it's a case of moaning about playing a couple of games a week,if everybody else played the same amount over the same period,
West ham playing us with what is a six pointer have not played since boxing day
This will be our third game in that period and puts us at a massive disadvantage

we just a small team
premier league favour the London sides
do the care about us?

NO NO NO NO
west ham playing last on boxing day
we played 48 hrs ago
so much for a level playing field

I think we have just seen the consequences of a team having a week off and a team playing 2 games in two days
Unfair playing field
Ran out of steam 2nd half plain to see  

I agree. Although being a bit more clinical would help.