[Amelia Chaffinch]

I'm gobsmacked. Thought he'd be gone.

[Worldclassalbion]

West Brom manager Tony Pulis is "not worried" that a 10-game winless run and a third straight defeat will force the club's board to sack him. (Birmingham Mail)

No because he wants the payoff.

DD    

DD he's not worried because whatever happens, he's a millionaire when he wakes up. Just wish he would go.

[WBA-Josh]

Here's a satirical article about the English managers still in work or trying to get back into work and it shows where English football goes wrong. It's a bit too personal for my taste but the overall message of the article is spot on. http://www.football365.com/news/this-is-...alling-men

In England, there is no ambition and looking to the future, it's all short term fixes with the same has been coaches. England needs to follow the German lead where faith is placed in the youth. Sometimes it works (Nagelsmann at Hoffenheim, Tedesco at Schalke, Weinzierl at Augsburg, Tuchel at Mainz) and other times it doesn't (Weinzierl at Schalke, Nouri at Bremen) but it's better for the game in the long term.

[Arcane Astral Aeons]

Here's a satirical article about the English managers still in work or trying to get back into work and it shows where English football goes wrong. It's a bit too personal for my taste but the overall message of the article is spot on. http://www.football365.com/news/this-is-...alling-men

In England, there is no ambition and looking to the future, it's all short term fixes with the same has been coaches. England needs to follow the German lead where faith is placed in the youth. Sometimes it works (Nagelsmann at Hoffenheim, Tedesco at Schalke, Weinzierl at Augsburg, Tuchel at Mainz) and other times it doesn't (Weinzierl at Schalke, Nouri at Bremen) but it's better for the game in the long term.

thats all well and good in Germany
do you seriously think the over-rated foreign mangers we have in the premier league will blood the youth?
how many of the under 17`s that won the world cup will actually get game time at their clubs?
i`ll tell you....hardly any
the premier league clubs quick fix is to pay stupid prices for over rated players once the window opens
yeah lets pay millions for an over rated foreigner
i see what your saying josh and maybe we should look at the way german football brings their youth through
they did that after the 2002 world cup now look at the national side they have.
our clubs have a vast array of very talented players,but they will never get the chance to shine
and what happens to them?.....they drift out of the game

[WBA-Josh]

I agree 100% about teams preferring to spent big money on players instead of investing in the youth players and that is detrimental to the English game.

My point however was more about coaches. There is still an over reliance on the old school coaches and that is stopping progression within the English game at the highest level. There are good British coaches outside the Premier League who won't get proper chances in the Premier League until the old breed lose their appeal. At the moment it only happens if young British coaches get their teams promoted into the Premier League. Howe and Dyche have got things rolling but their needs to be more to finally start a shift in British mentality.

[Beefy 1965]

Excellent article here. These 'squatting' type of characters exist across all industries and sectors, especially in politics.

http://www.football365.com/news/this-is-...alling-men

As I write, David Moyes is apparently in discussions with West Ham’s hand shandy merchants to replace Slaven Bilic as West Ham United’s new manager. No, this isn’t some sort of Halloween trick or treat, although once Davey makes one of his terrified, wide-eyed looks and starts threatening to slap women, it might seem so. Can anyone imagine a non-British manager with a CV like Moyes’ being given any Premier League job, even for half a season? If he gets the job, he’ll be part of the cabal of top-flight British managers whose sides play awful football.

Let’s look at the dreadful has-beens. David Moyes. Tony Pulis. Mark Hughes. Sam Allardyce. Roy Hodgson. (I would add Alan Pardew if there was half a chance anyone might employ Chunky in the near future, but that seems as likely as anyone employing Alan Curbishley) Two of that five are not in work now, but seem set to be soon enough, at least if some of the English media get their way.

All of these managers can bore for Britain. Their sides usually play a dull, functional game. In a league where some sides play champagne football, this mob specialise in Drybroughs Keg Heavy (one for the teenagers, there).

The recent increase in TV appearances of expert sommelier Sam Allardyce suggests he’s touting for another job. People always end up hating both the football Allardyce teams play and Allardyce himself.

His media mates can go on all they like about how modern he is because he’s got a vibrating plate and has heard of Opta but the fact remains that his sides end up playing eye-bleeding boring football which makes fans feel like the hot breath of mortality is a preferable option. If he takes the Everton job or in fact any other job at all, he’d just be blocking the path of a better, younger, more exciting and progressive manager and as such he’s an especially large albatross around British football’s aching neck.

And speaking of pains in the neck, that brings us to Tony Pulis. He has been a manager for 25 years now (y’know, he’s only 59!), and with his 30% win ratio at WBA is blocking the progress of other managers who could actually organise a team to produce football worth paying to watch. Squatting at the Hawthorns like an incurable haemorrhoid, never quite bad enough to require surgery but a permanent source of agitation and aggravation. The fact is his sides are always really sodding boring and you know this because occasionally, when they play some good football, all Pulis’s supporters jump up and down to shout about it because it is such a contrast to the norm, like striking a match in a universe of darkness.

Then there’s the always scowling, miserable and unhappy Mark Hughes who, when not getting into fights with other managers over shaking or not shaking hands, is doing the football equivalent of bed blocking at Stoke City. He has been a manager for 18 years now and to most fans of the sides he’s been in charge of I bet it feels like even longer. Give someone else a go, Mark. See if they can’t better your 36.7% win ratio. Someone who doesn’t look weary with the game, who doesn’t seem permanently narked and who has got something new to offer. No neutral wants to see Stoke. And for good reason.

And we could say the same thing about Roy Hodgson at Crystal Palace. It’s his 23rd appointment in 41 years. Is that not enough now, Roy? He’s won two games in nine. At least if a new manager had the job and did as poorly, they could learn from the failure; Hodgson has already failed so much that he’s nothing left to learn. He’s just another obstacle in the way of those with less experience but better idea

And finally there’s the putative WHFC man. Moyes, David. With an 18.6% win ratio at Sunderland across 43 games, even taking into account the unique degree of dysfunction on Wearside, it was a spectacular failure of tenure. There is genuine anger from fans that he is even being considered and we all know why: we’ve seen his sides play. His last three jobs revealed a man incapable of managing a big side and incapable of managing a bad side but more than capable of being unable to handle the pressure. He is a man who had a ‘high tech bunker’ (white board and an iPad).
Yeah, that modern. But sooner or later, someone will give Moyes a job, instead of someone who is any good and he’ll set about taking the bread out of the mouth of someone with less experience but much better skills.

[Dingle-Dingle]

Jesus Christ (Sorry Vic) Boofbag. Hast thou swallowed a thesaus. Thereew. The... Sod it a book.. Agree 100% though. DD

[4evaabaggie]

If TP is angling to get himself sacked for the compensation then that is reason not to sack him ........ instead Williams should say to Tone" you are proud of your record of never being relegated ...Well we will not sack you so unless you turn around your shower of shite tactics that record will go! Then either the team will play to win or we get relegated, he loses his never been tag and therefore his lure to chairmen. Pulis gets sacked. We have a season in the championship, we enjoy watching football and Albion winning games, and tone and his brand of hoofball is exiled to digbeth where they park buses all day every day.

Just a thought ..... anyone else like minded.

[hibeejim21]

Pulis

If one of his sides were playing in my back garden I'd close the curtains.

[4evaabaggie]

Pulis    

If one of his sides were playing in my back garden I'd close the curtains.

You and most Baggies fans. I haven't been all season ..... was planning on a season ticket after retirement but as yet can't bring myself to get it ..... I can cope with losing, it hurts but I can cope, I can't cope with being bored to death, not entertained and paying for the privilege ........ "at the end of the storm there's a golden sky" I keep hanging on to that thought.