15-11-2014, 00:37
(15-11-2014, 00:21)Southeyowl Wrote: I came on here as asked from New606, but it now seems banter and humour are banned!
Utopia
and complicated
INTERNATIONAL THREAD v slovenia. This Saturday? yeah saturday, 5pm i think
Utopia
15-11-2014, 00:38
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(15-11-2014, 00:21)Southeyowl Wrote: I know SCO is on our side, I ain't having a go at him! Someone has to Mod the page, but it looks like he is being moderated.
I came on here as asked from New606, but it now seems banter and humour are banned!
So apologies if I have offended a fellow Owl!
The rest can get fecked!
ADIOS AMIGOS!
I've been trying to say this for a while now but haven't found the right words (probably trying to put them more elegantly
)I was going to start a new thread for this but I thought whilst we're on the subject ...
I've been told that my actions in protesting the censorship has offended certain posters, some so much that they have chosen not to post any more. This has never been my intentions and I mean no offence to anyone.
All I can say in my defence is, some of us were not happy with the censorship and I tried to fight our corner. In real life you should never be forced into doing something you do not want to. If it turns out that you will be over ruled anyway then you should still put up a bloody good fight.
Even if you aren't being forced you should still push at the parameters to see how much you can get.
I have decided that I will give up my fight and let dictatorship rule.
Could any of the posters I offended let me know (either publicly or through PM) and I will personally apologise to you all.
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15-11-2014, 00:52
(14-11-2014, 22:44)St Charles Owl Wrote: And I will keep doing it!!! I am sick and tired of going over the same old ground, that picture was used previously along with words to abuse another poster, therefore it is banned as it should be. I am allowing virtually everything so why can't we just stick to the football instead of constantly dragging up the past??
That's a well documented quote that allows people to cover up mistakes and their own inadequacies.
Without knowledge of the past the human race will always repeat its mistakes. An awareness of history will allow a species to progress whilst suppression of history will only result in the same mistakes being repeated to the detriment of all concerned.
Maddix 2014
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15-11-2014, 01:03
Charlie, I'd rather speak on here than through PM's.
The only time the argument is dragged back up by me is when things are deleted which are not against the rules of nudity/swearing. I might occasionally poke fun at the fall out but it's often mixed in with other comments and consequently is ignored.
I would say posters have been offended if they have felt the need to quit the sites and again, I ask them to come to me for an apology.
The only time the argument is dragged back up by me is when things are deleted which are not against the rules of nudity/swearing. I might occasionally poke fun at the fall out but it's often mixed in with other comments and consequently is ignored.
I would say posters have been offended if they have felt the need to quit the sites and again, I ask them to come to me for an apology.
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15-11-2014, 01:07
I can see how this is going to end and it isn't going to be happy.
The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.
15-11-2014, 01:16
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(15-11-2014, 01:07)madsteve Wrote: I can see how this is going to end and it isn't going to be happy.
It'll probably be a scrappy 1-1 draw and we'll play terrible football.
Our old friend Pecnik looks as though he'll get a start tomorrow btw
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15-11-2014, 01:28
I can't win by posting and arguing on here, thats why I sent you a PM.
But if you insist, then lets clear up one thing, I never said anyone was offended by what you or the others were saying, they simply got bored of it always coming up and derailing threads, just like this one!! I made a genuine decision to find us a home that would provide a stable platform for us to comment on football, and I invited everyone to move here, which most did. I did this in good faith.
The changes that were made to the rules of the site were not done in the best way possible, I admitted that at the outset and it was agreed that only the two swear words were to be banned and nudity was to be discouraged as well. There is truly nothing unreasonable about those restrictions and in fact brings this site in line with virtually all other football forums. I understand the initial reaction to the changes and the way it was done but ultimately the "freedom of speech" we have on here far exceeds most other things in our lives, so I hoped that we could live with the changes and keep the forum going. I and Kev took over the match threads after Maddix no longer wanted to do them and aside from the tits and arses they have not changed at all, are we really that shallow that because the site would prefer to not have nudity we cannot have some fun along the way??
I also acknowledge your right to protest the changes, which you and others have done vociferously since they were made, but why do you constantly have to push me to have to moderate your posts when you know what the rules are?? You have stated that you will push until I ban you, why would you do that?? What will that achieve except cutting off your own nose to spite your face?? I have no wish to ban anyone, I never have but I fail to see why these changes are considered so bad that you want to be banned by flouting the rules?? How long do you think your University or your job would put up with you if every second word out of your mouth was the f or c word and you constantly emailed nude pictures around?? Life is full of boundaries and rules, some fair, others not, the rules on here are no worse than any other forum so once you protested the way it was done and that protest was registered, why can we not recognize the mistakes that were made and move on to what we are here for - discussing football???
As can be seen from the posts above after I announced to you in a PM that I was done with the arguing and done with moderating you, immediately you post images that we have been asked to not post, why?? What does that show about you or I?? There are plenty of places on the internet to get your fix, why do you need to rub it in my face that we have rules here and that I am tasked with upholding them?? Maybe again, it goes back to you trying to deliberately get banned?? So where are we, well you can post what you like, I am not going to moderate anymore, I am tired of spending my time on here moderating your posts, virtually all others can abide by the rules and I can guarantee they are bored with the whole saga, but I am done moderating it. Others may not want to say what they truly think about this directly on the forum, but likewise they also do not want to keep reading about it, that is where I am but I am prepared to say what I think and as moderator I think its my duty!!
But if you insist, then lets clear up one thing, I never said anyone was offended by what you or the others were saying, they simply got bored of it always coming up and derailing threads, just like this one!! I made a genuine decision to find us a home that would provide a stable platform for us to comment on football, and I invited everyone to move here, which most did. I did this in good faith.
The changes that were made to the rules of the site were not done in the best way possible, I admitted that at the outset and it was agreed that only the two swear words were to be banned and nudity was to be discouraged as well. There is truly nothing unreasonable about those restrictions and in fact brings this site in line with virtually all other football forums. I understand the initial reaction to the changes and the way it was done but ultimately the "freedom of speech" we have on here far exceeds most other things in our lives, so I hoped that we could live with the changes and keep the forum going. I and Kev took over the match threads after Maddix no longer wanted to do them and aside from the tits and arses they have not changed at all, are we really that shallow that because the site would prefer to not have nudity we cannot have some fun along the way??
I also acknowledge your right to protest the changes, which you and others have done vociferously since they were made, but why do you constantly have to push me to have to moderate your posts when you know what the rules are?? You have stated that you will push until I ban you, why would you do that?? What will that achieve except cutting off your own nose to spite your face?? I have no wish to ban anyone, I never have but I fail to see why these changes are considered so bad that you want to be banned by flouting the rules?? How long do you think your University or your job would put up with you if every second word out of your mouth was the f or c word and you constantly emailed nude pictures around?? Life is full of boundaries and rules, some fair, others not, the rules on here are no worse than any other forum so once you protested the way it was done and that protest was registered, why can we not recognize the mistakes that were made and move on to what we are here for - discussing football???
As can be seen from the posts above after I announced to you in a PM that I was done with the arguing and done with moderating you, immediately you post images that we have been asked to not post, why?? What does that show about you or I?? There are plenty of places on the internet to get your fix, why do you need to rub it in my face that we have rules here and that I am tasked with upholding them?? Maybe again, it goes back to you trying to deliberately get banned?? So where are we, well you can post what you like, I am not going to moderate anymore, I am tired of spending my time on here moderating your posts, virtually all others can abide by the rules and I can guarantee they are bored with the whole saga, but I am done moderating it. Others may not want to say what they truly think about this directly on the forum, but likewise they also do not want to keep reading about it, that is where I am but I am prepared to say what I think and as moderator I think its my duty!!
15-11-2014, 01:34
Read your PM but cant reply due to this site being poor for mobiles. Please delete my profile, cos I cant!
All the best to you all! Don't let the Bastards drag you down! WAWAW!
All the best to you all! Don't let the Bastards drag you down! WAWAW!
JUST SAYING LIKE!
15-11-2014, 01:42
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Can this thread be locked and then reopened when Rooney misses his first sitter?
I was not pushing to get banned, I was pushing to see how far I could go.
I now know that I can go as far as
but can't go as far as to post a picture of Jim Carey and Jeff Daniels in a film from 20 years ago.
I am going to stop pushing altogether and instead I'll turn into one of the irregulars who only ever post their predictions and never come on to do anything else.
I was not pushing to get banned, I was pushing to see how far I could go.
I now know that I can go as far as
but can't go as far as to post a picture of Jim Carey and Jeff Daniels in a film from 20 years ago.
I am going to stop pushing altogether and instead I'll turn into one of the irregulars who only ever post their predictions and never come on to do anything else.
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15-11-2014, 12:29
These arguments are so tiresome.
We either accept the restrictions, find another site or pack up.
Pushing the boundaries just kills the community one person at a time.
I find I visit this Forum less & other forums more because the debate is better elsewhere.
We either accept the restrictions, find another site or pack up.
Pushing the boundaries just kills the community one person at a time.
I find I visit this Forum less & other forums more because the debate is better elsewhere.
The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.
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