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Taylor set to sign for Burnley . £5 million for a young English Full back WTF !!!!!
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I know this will sound very innocent but at the end of the day West Brom employ people to scout, watch and assess players and also to consider their fit into the squad and plans of West bromwich Albion.
We were linked to Taylor, and get linked (or are rumoured to be linked) to numerous players but have chosen not to take it further - we have to hope that the logic and thinking is good.
So Burnley are welcome to have him as he suited us a few years ago and last but now does not have what we want.
Let's wait for the window to open and take stock at the end of July - it might not be any different frm previous years - but we will only know that for sure come August 1st.
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We had Serge Gnabry on loan. Pulis wouldn't pick him but Bayern Munich have signed him. Pulis is shite at getting the right players and then when he has them he doesn't play em. We were linked with Iheanacho but now looks like Leicester will be taking him. It's the same every window since Pulis has been here. Frustrating and Embarrassing. This is just my opinion but I wish he'd just go.
There are managers out there who would attract better players, look at Palace. Frank De Boer, a big name who will attract big names. No one wants to come to Albion to play for Pulis. Hope I am so very wrong.
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(26-06-2017, 22:39)Worldclassalbion Wrote: We had Serge Gnabry on loan. Pulis wouldn't pick him but Bayern Munich have signed him. Pulis is shite at getting the right players and then when he has them he doesn't play em. We were linked with Iheanacho but now looks like Leicester will be taking him. It's the same every window since Pulis has been here. Frustrating and Embarrassing. This is just my opinion but I wish he'd just go.
There are managers out there who would attract better players, look at Palace. Frank De Boer, a big name who will attract big names. No one wants to come to Albion to play for Pulis. Hope I am so very wrong.
I don't want to sound like a die hard Pulis fan, because I'm not, but I believe in 'balanced' posts and it seems like some fans will use every opportunity to dig at him. I appreciate his football is pretty drab, but it's improved significantly from the dross he inherited which looked nailed on for relegation. We progressed under him nicely last season IMO and at times, football was decent at home.
As for the windows, do you really believe they are worse under him? For me, they've been slow in every year we were in the Prem. I've lost count of the amount of times I've been sat on forums on deadline days waiting for something to happen and we've just signed some cheap, unproven unknown to appease the fans.
Pulus signed numerous top names at Stoke - Michael Owen, Peter Crouch, Eidur Gudjohnsen, Johnathan Woodgate, Matt Upson, Charlie Adam and Tuncay - just to name a few. So he's hardly a turn off for big names. In fact, in Chadli, Fletcher and Evans are 3 of the very few 'proven' Premier players we have attracted in recent years.
Regarding Gnabry, I guess it's egg on your face for Pulis and Wenger if he comes good at Bayern.
That said, can we blame Pulis for not playing him? On the few occasions he was selected he didn't look the part. I remember watching him in the cup against Port Vale and he played a shocker. The Premier League is cut throat and it's hard for clubs in the lower reaches to give players time. They get that in Spain and Germany because the sides at the bottom aren't quite as competitive.
I do not believe Charlie Taylor had the choice of playing for Pulis or Dyche and decided to go to Burnley because their football is so much better. After all, despite our stigma, we remain a bigger pull than them. Livermore gaining international exposure shows we are no longer considered a bottom basement side. The reality is, we probably don't think he's worth the cash. He only played 25 times for a mid table Championship side last year anyway, so that could well be the case.
I'm pretty annoyed with the lack of action in the window so far, but if it is a complete joke, I'll blame the board and not Pulis. Pulis will get the blame if he's backed and signs dross. But so far, with the exception of McManaman, he has a decent transfer record IMO.
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(26-06-2017, 20:58)Stairs Wrote: I know this will sound very innocent but at the end of the day West Brom employ people to scout, watch and assess players and also to consider their fit into the squad and plans of West bromwich Albion.
We were linked to Taylor, and get linked (or are rumoured to be linked) to numerous players but have chosen not to take it further - we have to hope that the logic and thinking is good.
So Burnley are welcome to have him as he suited us a few years ago and last but now does not have what we want.
Let's wait for the window to open and take stock at the end of July - it might not be any different frm previous years - but we will only know that for sure come August 1st.
Stairs, the only thing I would say to that is, why renew the recent interest in him?
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(27-06-2017, 00:21)Slick_Footwork Wrote: But so far, with the exception of McManaman, he has a decent transfer record IMO.
Oh....and James Chester....and Ricky Lambert....and he ignored 2 damned good transfers from the previous year - Gamboa and Poco.
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(27-06-2017, 09:36)talkSAFT Wrote: (27-06-2017, 00:21)Slick_Footwork Wrote: But so far, with the exception of McManaman, he has a decent transfer record IMO.
Oh....and James Chester....and Ricky Lambert....and he ignored 2 damned good transfers from the previous year - Gamboa and Poco.
Although I personally that Chester was not good enough at right back or centre half in a back 4, he was sold at a profit, so I don't think that can be considered a failure.
Lambert was a failure. I'd forgotten about him.
Gamboa and Pocognoli are very much open to debate - but in my opinion, there's nothing to suggest TP made mistakes here.
Pocognoli played a few times for us and looked decent but very rash. He went to Brighton and struggled to break into their team. I guess we will see if they go after him now we've released him.
Gamboa wasn't favoured by Irvine either, who was in charge when we signed him. He was second fiddle to Andre Wisdom that season. He's gone to Celtic and barely played too, so is he really Premier League standard? For me, there's absolutely no way I'd put him ahead of either Dawson or Nyom at right back. I admit, I would've liked to have seen him given more of a chance when he was here - but evidence since his move suggests there was probably a reason why TP preferred Dawson.
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(27-06-2017, 00:21)Slick_Footwork Wrote: (26-06-2017, 22:39)Worldclassalbion Wrote: We had Serge Gnabry on loan. Pulis wouldn't pick him but Bayern Munich have signed him. Pulis is shite at getting the right players and then when he has them he doesn't play em. We were linked with Iheanacho but now looks like Leicester will be taking him. It's the same every window since Pulis has been here. Frustrating and Embarrassing. This is just my opinion but I wish he'd just go.
There are managers out there who would attract better players, look at Palace. Frank De Boer, a big name who will attract big names. No one wants to come to Albion to play for Pulis. Hope I am so very wrong.
I don't want to sound like a die hard Pulis fan, because I'm not, but I believe in 'balanced' posts and it seems like some fans will use every opportunity to dig at him. I appreciate his football is pretty drab, but it's improved significantly from the dross he inherited which looked nailed on for relegation. We progressed under him nicely last season IMO and at times, football was decent at home.
As for the windows, do you really believe they are worse under him? For me, they've been slow in every year we were in the Prem. I've lost count of the amount of times I've been sat on forums on deadline days waiting for something to happen and we've just signed some cheap, unproven unknown to appease the fans.
Pulus signed numerous top names at Stoke - Michael Owen, Peter Crouch, Eidur Gudjohnsen, Johnathan Woodgate, Matt Upson, Charlie Adam and Tuncay - just to name a few. So he's hardly a turn off for big names. In fact, in Chadli, Fletcher and Evans are 3 of the very few 'proven' Premier players we have attracted in recent years.
Regarding Gnabry, I guess it's egg on your face for Pulis and Wenger if he comes good at Bayern.
That said, can we blame Pulis for not playing him? On the few occasions he was selected he didn't look the part. I remember watching him in the cup against Port Vale and he played a shocker. The Premier League is cut throat and it's hard for clubs in the lower reaches to give players time. They get that in Spain and Germany because the sides at the bottom aren't quite as competitive.
I do not believe Charlie Taylor had the choice of playing for Pulis or Dyche and decided to go to Burnley because their football is so much better. After all, despite our stigma, we remain a bigger pull than them. Livermore gaining international exposure shows we are no longer considered a bottom basement side. The reality is, we probably don't think he's worth the cash. He only played 25 times for a mid table Championship side last year anyway, so that could well be the case.
I'm pretty annoyed with the lack of action in the window so far, but if it is a complete joke, I'll blame the board and not Pulis. Pulis will get the blame if he's backed and signs dross. But so far, with the exception of McManaman, he has a decent transfer record IMO.
Slick I don't use every opportunity to have a go at Pulis. My views have been 70/30 for him to Jog on. I have praised him many times and am always ready to eat humble pie BUT I really don't like him or his brand of Football. Although we finished 10th we now suffer the same horrible Stigma of how Stoke were perceived and I hate that. The common denominator is Pulis.
Both my kids are season ticket holders and my daughter thinks he's great as does my Missus. My 16 yr old son really dislikes him as do I. Could it be that we know more about football than they do?
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(27-06-2017, 13:20)Worldclassalbion Wrote: Slick I don't use every opportunity to have a go at Pulis. My views have been 70/30 for him to Jog on. I have praised him many times and am always ready to eat humble pie BUT I really don't like him or his brand of Football. Although we finished 10th we now suffer the same horrible Stigma of how Stoke were perceived and I hate that. The common denominator is Pulis.
Both my kids are season ticket holders and my daughter thinks he's great as does my Missus. My 16 yr old son really dislikes him as do I. Could it be that we know more about football than they do?
Hope my missus doesn't read this as I'll be Barron for a month 
I travel around the country for work and my experience is that most fans of other clubs are gobsmacked at the amount of hate Pulis gets from Albion fans. Most seem to think we play decent stuff.
Now for me personally, I agree entirely that Pulis' football isn't ideal. I'd much rather see more possession, more men pushed forward and less backs to the wall stuff. BUT at the same time, I think we have come on since he came in and his signings for best part have been decent.
As a Baggies fan, it's very much a 'be careful what you wish for' situation. The thing with Pulis is you don't feel like you're going to go down with him in charge. He sets up a side that gives everyone a game, particularly at home. Given that our board historically don't back any manager, giving him the boot could well result in us playing lower league football.
It's really easy to play dross football and go down in this division. My honest opinion is that the big money in the Premier League is responsible for most teams playing with a 'don't lose' mentality. Even those with foreign coaches are the same - just look at Boro, Watford, Southampton last season. They all scored less than we did.
As I say, I'm no Pulis fan and actually when he was recruited my 'ideal' situation was to bring him in for a year and then get someone in to rebuild us the following summer. As that hasn't happened, I'd like to see him properly backed and then judged. IMO he was let down by the board last summer and in January (when we again made a profit) and could've pushed for a decent finish.
To bring this back to transfers... In my opinion, the lack of action is down to the board and not TP in my eyes.
Last summer was pretty pathetic by Premier League standards but that was blamed on the 'change of ownership'. January was lousy but that was blamed on 'primary targets not being available'. So let's see what happens this summer and what the excuse is...
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