A wins a win.

Dancingwilldoit · 28-11-2016, 12:23

Well just. We really need to learn how to kill games off by going for the jugular instead of inviting teams on. Some great performances on Sat, Evatt and Beasley in particular. Ariyibi seems lost in the wilderness and Fulton pulled off a couple of good saves then cost us their second goal by hesitating coming for the ball and putting Anderson under pressure. Please lets see Tommy Lee back on Sat.
When I look at the first team names that should be back by the end of the year I still think we will do OK. Maybe not quite a Barnsley but you never know.

Devongone · 28-11-2016, 14:15

To run your own business and to be a success you need optimism. And you clearly have it!

Glad Beesley did well and I've always liked Evatt, but I wouldn't pair him with Hird in this world.

My chief worry as regards the team is that anything positive seems to coincide with O'Shea making a contribution. If that is our mainspring then we can't gather enough points to stay up, because he never does it often enough ......... We may have one more decent game before his next spell of hiding in full view, so how will we manage then?

And if Ariyibi is a lost boy how can our current game plan continue to work? Aren't Ariyibi and Mitchell the players who have to break at speed for us? If you can only get 40% possession at home, you have to have weapons that work at speed when you do get the ball don't you?

As for Tommy, I'd love to see him back, but they say his shoulder is still painful. A functioning shoulder is pretty much essential for a keeper.

bluepooch · 28-11-2016, 21:47

Agree Dancing ,Fulton was to blame for their second but overall his handling was decent and we have to remember he is only 19 ,how good was Tommy Lee at 19 ? Ill guess not as good as Fulton.However ,we arent in a position to wait for his development.
Ariyibi was poor yet again he looks lacking in confidence at the moment .
The one who was most disappointing was O Neill ,he was worse than Liddle in that position ,the guy has one slow pace and never changes that pace throughout the game .
Talking of Liddle he actually had a decent game on the right side of the defence which means we are not clamouring for the return of Mcginn as much, although Mcginn is much more of an attacking threat.However on the other side we are desperate for Jones to come back ,Donohue is regressing and needs a rest.
I was fuming at the free kick tactic near the end ,how can a manager do that at home with fully 5 minutes plus injury left ,I dont even think Scotch Johnny ever did it to that extreme.
Two wins is good although in my opinion they were a bit fortuitous,MK should have had 4 in the first half and BR had a cast iron pen turned down at 3 -1 so both games easily could have had different outcomes, Its going to take a few more wins to change my opinion of Wilson and get that bitter taste of the 8 league losses in a row out of my mouth.

Dancingwilldoit · (This post was last modified: 29-11-2016, 15:02 by Dancingwilldoit.)

Blue, the ref was probably atoning for the blatant pull on Ariyibi in the area first half. The ref was awful (again) where are they dragging them from? They started off dropping like flies every time one of our players went near them and the ref fell for it every time. Nearly every contested header resulted in a push in the back by a Bristol player and then when Mitchell shoulder charged their player legitimately, the ref gives them a free kick. He was just diabolical.

Devongone · 29-11-2016, 18:52

I can't imagine why anyone with any sense would want to be a referee. They are under pressure the whole time, their every mistake is visible to thousands, don't you think it is simply that those with the ability to do the job well have enough sense to avoid it like the plague? These days if you referee two teams of under elevens you stand a fair chance of going two falls or a submission with somebody's mad grandad who thinks you should have given his grandson a penalty.

**spireitematt** · 29-11-2016, 21:30

(29-11-2016, 18:52)Devongone Wrote: I can't imagine why anyone with any sense would want to be a referee. They are under pressure the whole time, their every mistake is visible to thousands, don't you think it is simply that those with the ability to do the job well have enough sense to avoid it like the plague? These days if you referee two teams of under elevens you stand a fair chance of going two falls or a submission with somebody's mad grandad who thinks you should have given his grandson a penalty.

People who ref are those people who couldn't play football and who don't understand how the game is played.

Devongone · 29-11-2016, 22:23

I think if you made that .... love the game, couldn't play it very well and thought they understood it but didn't, you'd cover some of the refs. But that still doesn't explain why they want to referee. Watch any game anywhere and it would be obvious to a Martian that the man NOT TO BE is the ref'.

Remember this, a ref can work his way up through all of English football's many tiers, make a serious error and be sent all the way back to the beginning, like snakes and ladders.

My real opinion is refs are so widely treated like shit that only those with attitude reach the top levels. The guys the game needs are weeded out and discouraged long before they reach the Prozac.

Dancingwilldoit · 30-11-2016, 15:08

One or two mistakes is/are acceptable but the bumbling fools we get in Lge1 just run around for 90 minutes with their heads stuck up their backsides.
How about this for a radical idea. Instead of having a ref, an assistant ref and 2 linesmen, put them all out to grass and have 22 men kicking 7 bells out of each other for 90 minutes.
Would make for a more interesting experience.

Devongone · 01-12-2016, 14:10

Of course if you played a game like a sportsman you wouldn't need a ref' and you'd call decisions against yourself.