[bluepooch]

I wasn't over enamoured by the appointment of Wilson,he had been sacked too many times for my liking,but like all managers we set on I decided to give him time ,especially when he bought Morgan in who had been relatively successful with him at Sheffyoo a few seasons ago.Ill also accept that his time here has been hamstrung by crap players on long contracts and horrendous injuries but after today I think it is time for him to resign while he still has a degree of respect from town fans.
I dont accept that it is not his fault ,he has been here about 10 months so should have been able to mould some sort of team capable of competing in this league but it is obvious now that he isnt up to the job .
If he cannot put a team of professional footballers on the pitch to win a game of football then it is time to go .1 win in 11 is unacceptable and something needs to be done quickly to stop this alarming slide.

[spireitematt]

I don't think it matters who is manager Pooch it won't change. Looking at the fixture list its hard to see where the next win is coming from and it looks really bleak. We could be relegated around Xmas if this slide continues.

[Devongone]

Three different managers have failed to invest in the playing strength at a time when simple supporters like you and me have been thinking and saying we need to bring in players. I don't believe Danny Wilson, John Sheridan and Dean Saunders are all idiots. Why did Paul Cook head for the door when one team he'd built was about to lose some of its major players?

A few weeks ago you saw these players hammer Northampton (unbeaten since the thirteenth century) and you were raving about them. Scunny featured Conor Townsend - we could have had him but no one wanted him and now he's part of this team of unbeatable superstars ........ So we need to assess the playing strength realistically.

The club is where it is because that is the game it plays with its supporters and managers. Yesterday we had what - a young inexperienced keeper from Liverpool behind a back four in which two of the players may, or may not, even be defenders and another who ought to be at Turf Moor. So our only defender is a good footballer who is one of the slowest players in the division. And we were expecting a clean sheet?

In front of the defence we position a man chosen by our current manager who has been a huge failure, but always plays. That is certainly Danny's fault.

As we move forward we have a winger a lot of clubs want and a decent centre forward who will bring us hatred wherever we go. But what do we have with them - well there's Jay Come-Day-Go-Day and Gardner who seems to want to self-destruct in much the same way; what else, one of the many young fish Chelsea turned into rejects, young Dimaio, who may need time we currently don't have, Rai who has apparently gone into reverse, Dennis who was a worthwhile gamble but gamble was the operative word ........ and a very young centre forward who I think will make it but who got thrown in against the team at the top of the league ......? We're a bits and bobs team, all make-do-and-mend. We've a contract wasting on Ebanks-Blake who'll be back as soon as Shrewsbury appoint a manager, another on Angel who may be in geriatric care before he recovers and Jones whose prolonged absence has made my heart grow fonder.

The worst mistake Danny has made was not Liddle, it was playing Tommy Lee at Bradford last season. With struggling centre backs you can't afford a keeper problem. We didn't fix either or centre back problem our keeper and they are the foundation of of any team.

Steps:-

1. We have a mass of injuries, many received in training. Morgan was off his head as a player - I'd suggest that may be coming out on the training ground. Wave goodbye. Ritchie takes charge day-to-day.
2. Anderson and Raglan, who do they want to play for? If we don't feature in their futures we need centre backs in January.
3. Come January we also need a proper controlling central midfield player.
4. The club has to decide whether it wants to repeat the cycle of promotion and relegation every few years ..... because this doesn't happen accidentally ( we'd need Scully and Fox Mulder on the case!)
5. As we are almost certainly going down the time to prepare for it is now. We could waste months floundering or we could decide perhaps to develop the younger players and put the deadwood to where it has decided to be. If O'Shea or Gardner would like to commit themselves for 90 minutes, they have months of contract time to let us know.

IF we do sack Danny which is the way of all football, then we must ditch Morgan too and the only candidate for the main job is Ritchie ........ but we'll be giving him an almost impossible job, saving a club which kinda wants to go down.

[bluepooch]

We need to act now ,its no good waiting for January ,there are 10 games to go til then and our season could rest on those 10 games.We need to get someone in who is going to motivate the players. Give the job to Ritchie for the next 10 games.
I personally think Fulton has done well recently and he certainly isn't the weak link.
The problem ,which is glaringly obvious, is midfield .Liddle is really bad and Nolan looks easy on the eye but doesnt actually create a lot if people stop to analyse him.Nolan should be the holding midfielder and Liddle should be somewhere far away.Both these are Dannys signings.Ariyibi has gone backwards along with O Shea and Gardner and Mitchell just isnt up to it at the moment ,I blame the management for this too.
With the midfield being so bad its no wonder we are shipping goals and not creating them .If the engine room is broken the ship is going nowhere.

[Devongone]

I don't think it is Fulton's fault Pooch, but an experienced keeper like Tommy makes dodgy centre backs better than they really are. I think that has been happening for a while - longer than Danny's tenure - and it is hard on Fulton to expect him to have the same effect. We haven't got a good centre back on the books and arguably we are playing two midfielders at full back ...... Tommy would be struggling behind that ....... so would Neuer!

I think there is plenty of blame to lay at Danny's door ...... but don't you think most of it comes from not being forceful enough? The players he has brought in have nearly all been gamble players, may-or-may-not-make-its ........ all the way to Ched. The only exceptions have been Liddle and Nolan and one of them was intended to be a rock but just turned out to be a hard place for the supporters.

Different managers are repeatedly making the same mistakes. To me that suggests they are given wholly inadequate parameters within which to build a team. We permanently risk relegation from this division then have to fight our way back ...... boing boing boing.

We could sack the manager ...... but we currently need just 12 wins 3 draws and 17 defeats to avoid the drop. Our position is not impossible, our playing staff might be. It would be some going but 18 wins, 4 draws and 10 defeats would see us in the play offs. I'd say get Ritchie alongside Danny, ditch Morgan and a few others would be the best option but to get new players we have no option but to wait for January.

[spireitematt]

I wouldn't blame Danny if he decided to walk away. If he did leave who would take the job? Morgan? Ritchie?

[Devongone]

Karl Robinson?

I would think it very hard on Ritchie, first go in management, takes over a failing team, can't get reinforcements till January ......... he could be a big-time loser before he's had a chance to be a winner ......

If we want to kick everything but the ball we could go for Morgan.

Any manager looking at us is going to think that Danny was good enough to get Barnsley into the Premier SO what the fcku has he got on his hands with us .... ?

[spireitematt]

Karl Robinson is the type of manager who would manage someone like Pompey or Coventry. Wigan sacked there manager so wouldn't surprise me if Karl Robinson is lined up to take over.

I think no matter what manager we have there hands will be tied.

[bluepooch]

There are loads of managers out there who would want this job.Some proven some unproven .

[Devongone]

You're right Matt that Robinson is in the frame for Wigan .......... but as a scouser he'd have suited us too.

You're right too Pooch that there are managers who would take the job - there are only 92 such jobs and loads of potential managers. But could they do any better than Danny until the window opens? And would they be the right man or just another desperation choice?

I think Ritchie Humphrey would be a very good choice. The positives are that he couldn't do worse than the current run and he must now know the club inside out, but the huge negative is he inherits a very moderate squad that could just give him months of defeats to set off and ruin a managerial career. He's a man I didn't want at the club, but he has impressed me. He's our future.

None of this makes me willing to shit on Danny Wilson, a loyal, decent man who is one of the best and most committed players Chesterfield has had during my long lifetime. In less than a year in charge Danny pulled us out of Dean Saunders' tailspin to relegation and though he's also made several mistakes, but wouldn't we be wise to ask why the club repeatedly paints the same picture under different managements?

At our level every player signed comes with an element of risk, that's why they are down here, but we've now almost a clubfull of players for whom FAIL was written in much bigger letters than success when they arrived. Our captain Liddle was unwanted in our own division, Ebanks_Blake was lucky to make the bench at Preston, Dimaio wasn't wanted in Sheffield, Mitchell was in Chelsea's considerable garbage, Donohue had boinged miles down from West Brom ...... The odds were against everyone we signed - even Ched was being examined with barge-poles with which no one would touch him.

You can sometimes make a silk purse, but we are permanently happy at Chesterfield to take the risk of coming up with a pig's ear.