January Transfer Rumours

Devongone · 04-01-2016, 16:14

Not sure rumours have much to do with fact when Fulham are apparently interested in Morsy. They really couldn't get him till summer as they are transfer-embargoed.

Can't see how we could afford Morsy's apparent wages if we've no money for transfers. We could buy a £150,000 player and pay him for most of the year on what keeping / not-keeping Morsy costs.

Apparently Tendayi got roasted throughout the game up at Middlesbrough and hasn't been in the team since. If there's injury or transfer-speculation behind it I dunno ...... but when rumors of Everton / Man Utd interest came in with us he lost his form entirely.....

After seeing Saturday highlights if I were in charge of a club I'd be looking to gamble on Rai Simons - on the pitch 18 minutes, two goals with clean clinical strikes, still a teenager. Clubs waste millions on Eastern-European unknowns who rarely make a first team. A relatively modest outlay would get them a Bermudan who might be anything.

**spireitematt** · 04-01-2016, 17:17

(04-01-2016, 12:03)Dancingwilldoit Wrote: Tendayi was out injured. Morsy its rumored, has been offered £5.5 k a week to stay with us? God knows how we can afford it but is he worth any more? IMO No. I would have thought we could bring in a good midfielder for £3k a week tops or am I that much out of touch? £286k p.a. for a Lge1 player seems crazy to me no matter how good he is.

At £5.5k I think anyone would take that but I think he just wants to play Championship football and I don't blame him because he is Championship quality and could probably play in the Premier League as well.

bluepooch · 05-01-2016, 00:39

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Devongone · 05-01-2016, 19:20

It kinda makes me wonder how stupid skymoney can make Premier League clubs. In the summer any of them could have got Tendayi for £500,000 ......... now is anyone going to tell me he's made a giant leap forward in ability whilst at Burnley? He's the same goddam player.

**spireitematt** · 05-01-2016, 19:31

(05-01-2016, 19:20)Devongone Wrote: It kinda makes me wonder how stupid skymoney can make Premier League clubs. In the summer any of them could have got Tendayi for £500,000 ......... now is anyone going to tell me he's made a giant leap forward in ability whilst at Burnley? He's the same goddam player.

Because he wasn't as well known when he was with us even though there was interest from Championship clubs. David Moyes saw the potential in him when he was manager of Everton and wanted to sign him for United but people thought Moyes was silly to sign a player who at that time was in L2. Now all Premier League clubs are looking for players in L1/L2 hoping that they will come across the next Jamie Vardy.

Devongone · 05-01-2016, 22:38

I agree sort of Matt about the Jamie Vardy thing, but all these clubs were employing decent size scouting operations. They could've looked on the internet and found out about Tendayi .....

Jason Puncheon, Yannick Bolasie, Albert Adomah ........ They're doing as well as all the publishers who turned down Harry Potter.

**spireitematt** · 05-01-2016, 23:29

(05-01-2016, 22:38)Devongone Wrote: I agree sort of Matt about the Jamie Vardy thing, but all these clubs were employing decent size scouting operations. They could've looked on the internet and found out about Tendayi .....

Jason Puncheon, Yannick Bolasie, Albert Adomah ........ They're doing as well as all the publishers who turned down Harry Potter.

The Premier League clubs send scouts abroad to look at young foreign players and then sign them and stick them in there development squad, youth team or U21s and they probably make 1 appearance in the League Cup and you never hear of them again until they are playing in Championship or below.

Yes they could have found out about Tendayi on the internet but they didn't because most Premier League clubs are focusing on buying players from abroad which doesn't help home grown players in England progress or let them test themselves at the highest level as they become stuck in the reserves or bench warmers.

When Alex McLeish was manager of Rangers his son was playing Football Manager and advised his Dad to sign a young player in Barcelona's B team who he thought was going to be the best in the World. The Player? The player turned out to be Lionel Messi.

I know that teams and managers use the Football Manager players database to find out about up and coming players and players abroad.

**St Charles Owl** · 06-01-2016, 01:34

The problems with the teams in the PL goes a bit deeper than that as well. Nowadays its all about instant success or definite survival depending at which end of the PL you are at. There is no longer any appetite or time for managers in the PL to develop youth players by actually playing them in games that mean anything, so they are loaned out to see if they can make it. Gone are the days of a manager being as secure in his job as SAF was when he brought through the class of 92, managers now are more in fear of a bad run of results that will cost them their job!!

Look at Southampton for instance, year after year while they were in L1 and the Championship they were developing cracking young players who got into the first team and when they were successful in the team they would then sell them for big bucks. But since they got back to the PL they have brought through hardly any, instead they now use the tv money to buy more established players from abroad and either loan out their youngsters or leave them in the development squad.

Devongone · 06-01-2016, 13:46

My biggest objection to the Premier League is the lack of creative thought. Managers repeat the same old same old, and the media (and therefore the fans) encourage it. The different, the original, or the not-immediately successful comes at least into question, if not under fire. And when something different even temporarily succeeds it comes into fashion. Everyone then wants a Jamie Vardy, or a Bolasie, or an Eddie Howe ......... but they never gamble on anything different, so they rarely find it.

It's only those with not much to lose who gamble. Certainly Southampton are an example - now they are an established Premier outfit they are reverting to conservative decision-making. Young players got them where they are, but what's beyond Ward-Prowse? Newcastle who you'd think might be risk-takers have decided to leave Armstrong on-loan at Coventry, even though Cisse is injured and they struggle for goals .....

Teams have seven subs and use the same guys at about the same time every week. Their tactics are in boxes, their thinking is in boxes and they are terrified of risk, because of the money to be lost if you lose Premier League status. But the irony is they will only use that money to produce more of the same.

I suppose Darikwa didn't fit the profile or tick the boxes that possibly being at Burnley has allowed him to tick ......... But every team in England should have been aware that Chesterfield had a player who had the consistency and resilience to play every single game, who caused trouble to defences when pushing forward and also did a good job in defence ....... and a couple of Championship sides only were interested. How many more like him are there around?

**spireitematt** · 06-01-2016, 18:13

Gillingham are interested in SEB

Rumour going around that Stevenage will take over Nando's contract.

Also rumour going around that we are going to sign Connor Dimaio from Sheffield United. So if he join us he will be playing for his home town.