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One other thing on the first one, on commentary they said if it had been given there was no clear evidence that would have overturned it on VAR. C'est la vie good news is you get to play at Deepdale yea
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(30-05-2022, 08:32)Lord Snooty Wrote: Well the first question, jjamez has to be, why was Russell left out of the starting line up?
That could be one.
Mine are.
Why take ward off when 1-0 down? Get two strikers on the pitch.
Why have two defenders on the bench? Put game changers on it, eiting or koroma.
Why with 5 mins to go are we messing around at the back with it?
Why with 5 mins to go are we putting balls in the box with just one player in there?
Why with 5 mins to go is lees not up as a makeshift striker with Rhodes and probably Russell there too, maybe even toffs with Holmes and O'Brien being out wide on the left?
Why did we finish the game playing as if we were 1-0 up? Is it something to do with it going against the principles of cc? If so, it's a final, you throw them out the window when it gets nitty gritty
And why do the fa bang on about the god send var and never use it right? Why do they defend each clown regardless? When they make mistakes say so, you'll see them start improving when they realise they haven't an organisation shielding every blunder.
Russell should have started agreed, but I also think he shouldn't have come on either. Sinani and sarr off for Rhodes and Holmes/tino then if still 1-0 down at 70-75 pipa off for the other.
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(30-05-2022, 10:53)WakeyTerrier Wrote: (30-05-2022, 10:44)Amelia Chaffinch Wrote: I've been to Munich but I'm no use to you as a pub guide. Apart from the hotel, I never went in one! It's a very beautiful city and very welcoming ... as all in Bavaria were.
Doesn't have to boozers, I'm pretty sure I won't struggle to find a beer. It can be anything of note worth visiting/seeing.
Well, we did all the touristy things because we were on a tour. Bayern Munich and Munich Olympic stadium are worth looking at. Berchtesgaden, too, although that's a trip out of the city. Obviously the glockenspiel tower in Marienplatz. There are lovely street cafes in that square.
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(30-05-2022, 12:17)jjamez Wrote: (30-05-2022, 08:32)Lord Snooty Wrote: Well the first question, jjamez has to be, why was Russell left out of the starting line up?
That could be one.
Mine are.
Why take ward off when 1-0 down? Get two strikers on the pitch.
Why have two defenders on the bench? Put game changers on it, eiting or koroma.
Why with 5 mins to go are we messing around at the back with it?
Why with 5 mins to go are we putting balls in the box with just one player in there?
Why with 5 mins to go is lees not up as a makeshift striker with Rhodes and probably Russell there too, maybe even toffs with Holmes and O'Brien being out wide on the left?
Why did we finish the game playing as if we were 1-0 up? Is it something to do with it going against the principles of cc? If so, it's a final, you throw them out the window when it gets nitty gritty
And why do the fa bang on about the god send var and never use it right? Why do they defend each clown regardless? When they make mistakes say so, you'll see them start improving when they realise they haven't an organisation shielding every blunder.
Russell should have started agreed, but I also think he shouldn't have come on either. Sinani and sarr off for Rhodes and Holmes/tino then if still 1-0 down at 70-75 pipa off for the other.
Because he's a negative manager with safety first tactics?
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Supposedly neutral, I wanted you to win. It's bad enough supporting a club that finds itself going into a play-off with an injury list that rules out the first three choices for centre forward, two centre backs, a full back and a couple of midfielders, but watching a club you are fond of seemingly handicap itself before kicking off in it's own finale, rubs salt into the wound.
I was all for you putting in Naby Sarr to combat Keinan Davis, but as it turned out I think I could have marked him. How anyone could have conceived of leaving out Russell for Hogg was beyond me, and how Koroma is not even in the running for a game like that makes me ask questions. But it made for a very strange game and Corboran's plan? all but worked. Certainly you should have had at least one penalty. The goal you conceded was very unfortunate. Of Forest's star players both Davis and Johnson remained invisible. Sorba Thomas caused panic throughout, but you don't play anyone for him to play in on goal when they defend like Forest. You needed Russell's passing, but you got Boss Hogg's commitment. You desperately need someone who in tight areas up front who can conjure space.
Forest dominated possession, because you let them. That's fine. It works and it did work, but they snatched a goal from fresh air and you weren't good enough to grab something similar. Corboran has performed wonders. I hope you can keep him, don't forget you almost created a miracle on zero resources. You were a throw of the dice, or a blast on Jon Moss's whistle away. I do wish it had been otherwise, but congratulations on a BRILLIANT SEASON.
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Right. just watched the highlights back.
It's funny how you see things different to the Tellybox.
Both are penalties, I thought the Toffs one was at the time and having watched it back whilst I'm not as convinced as I was at the time you can clearly see contact and VAR should've told the ref to go to the screen which normally means he's reversing his decision.
Now LOB penalty shout, I thought at the time he went over too easy looking for it, having watched that back VAR should've told the ref to go to the screen but they didn't even check it by all accounts.
Now I'm not saying we would've scored them but it would've been nice to have the opportunity. Shame really as VAR is supposed to get more right than it gets wrong and we've been on the wrong end of 2 poor referee decisions.
Still, I didn't want to go to the Premier League anyway.
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To be honest Wakey - like I said to them in Coventry today - I'd rather be winning matches again in the Championship next season than scratting around for points in The Prima Donna League and wondering which over-priced over-paid Prima Donna's we might end up recruiting really want to play for us rather than just pad their (and their agents) Bank Accounts.
At least we know the wage bill won't cripple us next season and another tilt at the top 6-8 without the benefit of parachute payments will shut some of the "holier than thou" crowd up. Particularly those saying Forest did it without parachute payments - well yes they did but they didn't do it on our players wage budget either - more like double ours and counting and they won thanks to a dubious own goal.
There's often one club that has a post-play-off hangover for the following season - I hope it's not us.
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by the way, I don't blame the ref. He only see's what he sees and tries to ref the game the best he can
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(31-05-2022, 09:30)WakeyTerrier Wrote: by the way, I don't blame the ref. He only see's what he sees and tries to ref the game the best he can
Well same here but.........
That's what VAR is there for!
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