[Devongone]

Big positives were the crowd (I didn't expect over 5,000 under the circs) and the fact that we scored and we were dangerous.

Blue, not everything that happens is down to Danny. SEB was poor-ish even with the support of Lee Novak under Deano, he carried on in the same vein and much worse for Danny and was consigned to darkness, he went to Shrewsbury was soon relegated to permanent sub' by one manager and was quickly not fancied by the man who has turned them round. So that's four managers who got nothing from him .......... and remember he came to us because he wasn't doing much at PNE and even looked out of shape. Now SEB's future is on the line, his contract is almost done and suddenly he is all over the field? What do any of us think is going on? Genius management or I-need-the-easy-life-of-a-footballer-look-what-I-can-do? If it weren't such a racist thing to do we'd be asking Ron Atkinson for his point of view.

I'm delighted the ridiculous interns are beginning to disappear from the team. I was pleased Dennis scored and hope he can find himself. I was more than delighted Rai Simons got a start and made a goal in minutes. Give him some more time, we're down, see what happens ......... get Joe Rowley off the bench and on the pitch, get Maguire back and starting. Most of all don't be fooled by some old pro' bidding for a new contract anywhere, get someone on the field with a future - the sort of player who scores for the reserves!

The truth is Mr Caldwell hasn't done anything very different from Danny. Danny played three at the back, he tried the passing game, he even played park the bus ....... but didn't have the courage to make it work even though he had one of the main weapons (he had in Ariyibi and Mitchell the genuine pace necessary to play on the break, but didn't go with it!) Danny wasn't a dinosaur, he was just a manager of a club with enough resources to be in the bottom six of its division even when things were going right.

The worrying aspect of our play is that despite edging the battle for possession we still only managed eight efforts on goal and yet again the opposition topped twenty. So neither in attack or defence are we really getting it right yet.

At Wigan Caldwell had every advantage, but his team did score goals, so he isn't only a park-the-bus merchant. All we want from him at Chesterfield is that he views what we've got and what we lack realistically. That he recognises supporters want to win, but they also want to see their team attack and play (because most of humanity is living a dreary defensive life, under buggers of bosses, debts, screwball kids and cock-a-mamey mothers-in-law). We want some joy! A few minutes of that stretches a long way. I hope it continues and drags Dancing from his delphiniums.

[bluepooch]

Did we play 4 at the back Dancing ? Thinking about it we probably did .
Kakay had a decent game and is developing into a good player at this level.
What was noticeable was the way we were outmuscled in the midfield certainly first half,Donohue's a good lad but I''m afraid hes not a central midfield player ,he had a much better second half when playing more on the left.
Second half was clearly the best we've played under Caldwell in my opinion so it augurs well for the future.

[spireitematt]

Did we play 4 at the back Dancing ? Thinking about it we probably did .
Kakay had a decent game and is developing into a good player at this level.
What was noticeable was the way we were outmuscled in the midfield certainly first half,Donohue's a good lad but I''m afraid hes not a central midfield player ,he had a much better second half when playing more on the left.
Second half was clearly the best we've played under Caldwell in my opinion so it augurs well for the future.

We played 4 at the back but still conceded 3 goals. The positives were we scored 3 goals the negatives were we conceded 3 and Peterborough were lucky not to get anymore due to the woodwork. What was it hit the bar 4 times? the post twice?

[Dancingwilldoit]

Only going on what I read elsewhere Blue. Like Matt also read that if it wasn't for the woodwork we would have got hammered.

[bluepooch]

I dont agree a team deserve to lose because the other team hit the woodwork .A football game has thousands of what ifs ,If we hadn't gifted them 2 goals they would have only scored 1 .There's a famous old adage round these parts which says 'if my auntie had a penis she would be my uncle !.
The fact is Peterborough didnt deserve to win the game because they couldn't score more goals than us ,its irrelevant how many shots they had or how many times they hit the woodwork.
Admittedly the law of averages says if a team has the most shots then more times than not they will win but the most important thing is the accuracy of the shot surely.If a team has 10 shots and scores 1 and the other team has 2 shots and scores 2 then who deserves to win ?.The bottom line is there is only one stat that matters and that is the scoreline.

[Dancingwilldoit]

Exactly Blue only the scoreline matters and all we managed was a draw. Yet another home game with the visitors well on top but because we manage to score more goals in one game than we have in all our other games in the last 2 months, everythings well in the world?

[Devongone]

Everything certainly isn't right. In truth it has taken us four games to accumulate as many shots on goal as the opposition generally seem to manage in one game.

Though I liked Danny I was also critical of some of the the things he was doing. But the major reason for not ditching him was precisely what has happened. If the new man doesn't get the normal kick-start of a couple of wins, you are left with a manager finding out about his club and his players at a time when you need sound, confident decision-making ...... he comes under pressure and the result is that he does worse than the man he replaced.

I don't know how good Mr Caldwell will be or could be in the long-term, but what has happened to him in the last ten games isn't going to make it easier.

There are a lot of decisions for someone to make for next season. Look at goalkeeping for instance. Do we need two new keepers because Tommy's had it and the manager doesn't rate Allinson, just one new one, or would Tommy and Allinson do perfectly well? Then which of this current mob is worth keeping? Who do we give games to now to see what we have? Where do we recruit? Shouldn't that process already have started if we want to get good cheap deals?

Someone like SEB is a real conundrum. He WAS a real player for Plymouth and Wolves, but it was based on true talent rather than work ethic. Now as years of failure are about to spill him out into non-league obscurity he suddenly displays effort and form. With Ched injured there's a case for playing him IF the points mattered. It takes a lot of courage to say sorry mate, you left it too late, we paid you big money and you gave us very little, we're not about to turn our last few games in this division into your shop window. And surely we wouldn't consider renewing his contract even if he was MOM for the rest of the season, would we?

Staying or going Mr Caldwell has a difficult job all over the field and throughout a dysfunctional club. If he's staying then, like Spirematt, I think his number one question should be where is next season's team coming from? And for me that should have more impact on Saturday's team selection than dreaming that playing three at the back might turn him into the Division One Antonio Conte.

I'm sorry Pooch but it seems to me that if Kakay and SEB were our successes against Peterborough then the four times they hit the woodwork might as well have been goals for all the impact the game has on our future.

[spireitematt]

Everything certainly isn't right. In truth it has taken us four games to accumulate as many shots on goal as the opposition generally seem to manage in one game.

Though I liked Danny I was also critical of some of the the things he was doing. But the major reason for not ditching him was precisely what has happened. If the new man doesn't get the normal kick-start of a couple of wins, you are left with a manager finding out about his club and his players at a time when you need sound, confident decision-making ...... he comes under pressure and the result is that he does worse than the man he replaced.

I don't know how good Mr Caldwell will be or could be in the long-term, but what has happened to him in the last ten games isn't going to make it easier.

There are a lot of decisions for someone to make for next season. Look at goalkeeping for instance. Do we need two new keepers because Tommy's had it and the manager doesn't rate Allinson, just one new one, or would Tommy and Allinson do perfectly well? Then which of this current mob is worth keeping? Who do we give games to now to see what we have? Where do we recruit? Shouldn't that process already have started if we want to get good cheap deals?

Someone like SEB is a real conundrum. He WAS a real player for Plymouth and Wolves, but it was based on true talent rather than work ethic. Now as years of failure are about to spill him out into non-league obscurity he suddenly displays effort and form. With Ched injured there's a case for playing him IF the points mattered. It takes a lot of courage to say sorry mate, you left it too late, we paid you big money and you gave us very little, we're not about to turn our last few games in this division into your shop window. And surely we wouldn't consider renewing his contract even if he was MOM for the rest of the season, would we?

Staying or going Mr Caldwell has a difficult job all over the field and throughout a dysfunctional club. If he's staying then, like Spirematt, I think his number one question should be where is next season's team coming from? And for me that should have more impact on Saturday's team selection than dreaming that playing three at the  back might turn him into the Division One Antonio Conte.

I'm sorry Pooch but it seems to me that if Kakay and SEB were our successes against Peterborough then the four times they hit the woodwork might as well have been goals for all the impact the game has on our future.

I think we should keep Allinson and Tommy but it would not surprise me if Caldwell lets Tommy go and that would really piss the fans off big time.

So far the signings that Caldwell has made don't fill me with confidence but I guess we have to wait and see what happens.

[Devongone]

I'd like Tommy to make it back and I've felt very angry on young Allinson's behalf. He certainly didn't do badly enough for us to be shuffled behind two enormously ordinary keepers.

I admire Pooch finding positives among the detritus of our end to the season, but I find it hard to forget how ordinary SEB has been for us after the ability he showed earlier in his career. I know he has been injured since then ....... but suddenly to wake up now when his career has hit the undertow seems like pissing in all our pockets. And I've nothing against young Kakay except I can't remember us ever recruiting a player from QPR except Ron Mihaly - and you'll all ask who and I'll tell you he was a Chesterfield boy with attitude. So Kakay won't end up here, he'll be at Wimbledon or Millwall or maybe Stevenage, so who cares if he does well for us?

It seems to me we haven't a single player who on performance grounds you wouldn't question for a contract next season. None of them has stated a case to be retained, but obviously Mr Caldwell is going to have to keep some of them.

Some of our current team are going to be building blocks and others are going to be dead wood. And that's only weeks away. Can you tell the difference?

[spireitematt]

I'd like Tommy to make it back and I've felt very angry on young Allinson's behalf. He certainly didn't do badly enough for us to be shuffled behind two enormously ordinary keepers.

I admire Pooch finding positives among the detritus of our end to the season, but I find it hard to forget how ordinary SEB has been for us after the ability he showed earlier in his career. I know he has been injured since then ....... but suddenly to wake up now when his career has hit the undertow seems like pissing in all our pockets. And I've nothing against young Kakay except I can't remember us ever recruiting a player from QPR except Ron Mihaly - and you'll all ask who and I'll tell you he was a Chesterfield boy with attitude. So Kakay won't end up here, he'll be at Wimbledon or Millwall or maybe Stevenage, so who cares if he does well for us?

It seems to me we haven't a single player who on performance grounds you wouldn't question for a contract next season. None of them has stated a case to be retained, but obviously Mr Caldwell is going to have to keep some of them.

Some of our current team are going to be building blocks and others are going to be dead wood. And that's only weeks away. Can you tell the difference?

Players out of contract

2017: Simons, Martinez, Jones, O'Shea, SEB, Evatt, Raglan, Gardner, Beesley, Maguire, Morrison, Graham, Humphreys, Allinson, Stuckmann, El Fitouri

2018: Lee, Dimaio, Donohue, McGinn, Nolan, Mitchell, Dennis, Evans, Hird

2019: German