[Inverurie Jambo]

[quote="ritchiebaby" pid="220904" dateline="1635009243"]
only 8 points above 2nd-bottom Dundee.

Tbf, only 5 points from top of the league sounds much better. Not quite panic button yet .

[1Wattie]

Every team who have not won any games(Ike Aberdeen) must rub their hands together when they see their next game is against Hibs because we have a long history of being a pushover. A mark on how ineffective we were is shown by not having a single shot on target. That is not acceptable from a team that professes to be a top 3 team and will have to show a drastic improvement before we find ourselves in another relegation battle or our fans will start drifting away.
Under normal circumstances an away loss to Aberdeen is no disaster but today we didn't even put up a fight to get anything from the game.
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[ritchiebaby]

only 8 points above 2nd-bottom Dundee.

Tbf, only 5 points from top of the league sounds much better. Not quite panic button yet .

Certainly no panic, but we could/should have been at least 4 points better off to be only 1 point off the top of the league. The points are important, but the performances against Dundee United and Aberdeen should have been much better, no matter the end result. 4 shots on target in the last 3 games tells it's own story.

Knowing Hibs, we'll probably hand Celtic a footballing lesson to confound everyone again.

[HerefordBull]

only 8 points above 2nd-bottom Dundee.

Tbf, only 5 points from top of the league sounds much better. Not quite panic button yet .

Certainly no panic, but we could/should have been at least 4 points better off to be only 1 point off the top of the league. The points are important, but the performances against Dundee United and Aberdeen should have been much better, no matter the end result. 4 shots on target in the last 3 games tells it's own story.

Knowing Hibs, we'll probably hand Celtic a footballing lesson to confound everyone again. 

Keep dreaming Ritchie    ( but I know what you mean, it would be typical. However with the current team tactics, I'm not sure this is going to happen on Wednesday  )

GGTTH

[hibeejim21]

Sellick are going into this game with the most goals scored and least conceded. They are doing better than a lot of the pundits seem to think. We struggled to get a shot on goal against an atrocious Aberdeen side. We haven't won a game in a nearly a month.

We really need to dig deep and try and get something from this. But i'm not hopeful and i reckon a lot of the fans are pretty ambivalent whether we stick with Ross or not.

[0762]

only 8 points above 2nd-bottom Dundee.

Tbf, only 5 points from top of the league sounds much better. Not quite panic button yet .

Certainly no panic, but we could/should have been at least 4 points better off to be only 1 point off the top of the league. The points are important, but the performances against Dundee United and Aberdeen should have been much better, no matter the end result. 4 shots on target in the last 3 games tells it's own story.

Knowing Hibs, we'll probably hand Celtic a footballing lesson to confound everyone again. 

As said in my previous thread, you can't ignore Hibs unbeaten record at ER Stadium v some vg Celtic teams - covers a long period of the Hoops trying to beat us and failing. A previous "tongue in cheek" comment was made "in your dreams" - aye, based on Hibs current shit displays after an international break where certain "key players", Nisbet and Boyly, are not doing what they should be doing - scoring goals! Nisbet looks like he could do with a holiday and Boyly looks like a player who left all his sharpness and good form abroad with Australia. Note this team played very well and got lotsa plaudits for playing some of the best footie in the Scot Prem. No coincidence that suddenly it all changed after a controversial game at Ibronx and an international break. That's where the manager, Ross, comes into the equation IMO!! Looked like he couldn't motivate himself, let alone a footie team, for whatever reason. For example, there was a midweek interview on bbc Sportsound with Aberdeen FC's chairman, Dave Cormack, and his intention to beat Hibs on Saturday was absolutely clear to give the team a bit of "breathing space". Now if I was Ross, I'dve tried to use Cormack's comments to lift the Hibs team. Also I've no doubt Hibs will suddenly "raise their game" v Celtic, a bit like their sudden change of form in cup ties - watch for it on Wednesday night!! Totally unforgiveable btw, but as 1Wattie commented - we've seen it all before! Deja vu!

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[hibeejim21]

Ross is the least animated coach i've ever seen on the touchline. God knows what his half time talks must be like.

He went on and on about getting a reaction from the players and so far its produced sweet FA.

[0762]

Reflect back to quite a few months ago when many Hibs fans wanted him "oot the door" because he's not a motivator and, more importantly, he's not tactically astute esp in games that become difficult. He "got the nod" from most Hibs fans on here mainly because he was "steady". At that time I commented I'd take back Neil lennon at "the blink of an eyelid" although I appreciated there are some concerns re personality and irrational behaviour compared with Ross. IMO Lennon is a better manager and he's better than most of the current managers in the Scot Prem. He has also won trophies! Study Ross's last two matches. In the match v the Tangerines he made no attempt to alter a game plan and team formation after 20-25mins - did nowt. He did the same v the Dons yesterday - his 1st move was to bring on Murphy in the second half, but IMO too little, too late although the change did make a bit of difference to Hibs movements up front!! I expect a proper dynamic footie manager to change a team after realising it was all wrong during the first quarter of the match. I thought the pairing of Cadden and Gullan was absolutely wrong, but he did nothing - deja vu!! I also thought he could've changed the left wing back position for Doig to create chances on AFC's right flank esp in the last 20 mins when I thought that was a particularly weak area that Hibs could exploit - did nowt!! The plan A mentality was there for all to see - looked like he was watching a different game from most critical Hibs fans.
Lastly, I must say I watched the Darren Mac red card incident on a tv video replay and I'm baffled how a referee somehow ignored the Dons' defender clearly interfering, tugging and pulling the jersey to stop Darren's movement in their pen box - Aitken watched it from about 10 yards before Darren raised his arm - it's a pk all day long at any level of footie!! What makes it different in pro footie!!!?? By all means, give him a yellow or red card!! The preceding offence was even ignored by the pundits on Sportscene btw - as though Bates clear manhandling in the pen box didn't happen!! Darren effectively reacted to that offence, obviously shouldn't have done it, but his mobility in the pk box was being deliberately restricted!!! The ball dosen't have to be in an opponent's pen box for a pk to be called!! Also there's a similar incident in the match at Tannadice where a M'well player has a goal disallowed and been penalised for pulling/pushing down on the DU defender's shoulders - one aspect of Bates' offence(s) against Darren Mac!

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[Inverurie Jambo]

Perhaps Jack Ross just doesn’t have the personnel at his disposal to create these dynamic changes you crave for. Neil Lennon won trophies with Celtic when he had a vastly superior budget to any other team in the league. IMO not sure many Hibees would welcome back Lennon but I could be wrong.

[ritchiebaby]

I've the feeling that for every Hibs' fan that wanted Lennon back, there would be two who didn't. Not necessarily because of Lennon's attitude/behaviour, but because of all the bile that would be thrown at him from opposition fans trying to get a negative reaction.

Part of Ross' problems is of his own making as he's in charge, but equally he does not have the squad depth Hibs need. Whether that's down to him or down to available budget is something we all have opinions on.