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EU Referendum
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If another referendum was ran again on Britain's membership of the EU would you vote the same as you did or would you vote differently?
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I think there has been a few polls on this already .The one I saw showed more people moving from remain to leave than the other way .
I would remain as leave if that makes sense .
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(16-10-2017, 18:34)spireitematt Wrote: If another referendum was ran again on Britain's membership of the EU would you vote the same as you did or would you vote differently?

I didn't vote the first time, no longer eligible having been out of the country for over 15 years, but I would probably have voted remain, but it would have been a close run debate in my head. If the referendum was run tomorrow, I think I would still vote remain but I also think I would have the same doubts as before!! I never believed all the crap that Farage or Boris were spouting, in fact if the leave campaign had any leaders I trusted, then that might have been enough to swing my vote!!

My anti-EU feelings are deep rooted and go way before we ever worried about immigration or globalization!! I always saw the EU are a group of countries with a common trade partnership and some freedom of movement within its borders. I never wanted to see borders disappear, anyone travelling should use a passport for me and there should at least be an attempt to stop people coming in who we simply don't need or want for a variety of reason. I don't want to see a United States of Europe, I live is that system now and there is no way that many European cultures that are so different will ever get on politically even if we do avoid conflict!! The difference between someone from California and someone from Alabama is small compared to the difference between a Brit or a German or Frenchman etc. That is not a criticism of any of those nationalities, it is something I think should be celebrated and preserved, not watered down and eventually disappear.

(16-10-2017, 19:11)bluepooch Wrote: I think there has been a few polls on this already .The one I saw showed more people moving from remain to leave than the other way .
I would remain as leave if that makes sense .

Haven't seen any polls as such, and while there is little faith in May and the Tories to come out of this with a good deal, I don't see the stance the EU taking as being very good on the eye either. I still think it would be a close vote, the scare tactics would be out in force from both sides thats for sure, but for me I just wish the EU had come out at some point and said "Britain, we like you, we do need you and we would really like you to stay" because I think that would actually go someway to swaying some votes to remain. I never understood why the EU stayed quiet through the whole campaign, I would have preferred them to fight to retain a member, not sit on the sidelines and watch it all unfold. I understand them not wanting to be involved in internal politics but the way the EU has gone they are intrinsically involved in the politics of every member nation.
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The one plus of Brexit so far is that it has demonstrated everything that is wrong with both the EU and the Tory Party.

I said all along getting a deal out of these bureaucratic fools would be almost impossible. I'd vote LEAVE with both hands and both feet now , as should Jeremy Corbyn, if he wanted to be able to look his former mentor Tony Benn in the eye again.

I hate some of the people who think the same as me on this issue, but how can this be any kind of union when the opinions of only 2 of the remaining 27 countries carry any weight? A fat-cat, rich man's capitalist club supported for their own ends by the empires of big capital around the world!
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I would vote Leave if another referendum happened because the way we've been treated by the EU since the vote has been with contempt and it just shows they were never really our friends just wanted the money off the country to finance there European project.

How is it fair that there is 3-4 countries out of the 27/28 who pay for the rest.
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When we joined the EU there were about 9 countries all about the same size roughly ,now there are 27 of vastly varying wealths all with their snouts in the same trough and some are getting a better deal than others .
My biggest issue is the loss of Englands identity due to open borders, which ,ok may be sentimental and old fashioned but I dont care .I want people who live in England to speak English and have western values regardless of the colour of their skin .Im not a fan of so called globalization .Controlled immigration is vital.People should be vetted.
If i went to live in another country I would try damn hard to pick up the language and respect the way of life and also contribute to the economy.
We will still be a part of Europe just not the EU .Our teams will still take part in the European Cups .
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The EU is what it says in the title " Union ". The richer countries pay more to bring the poorer members up to the same standard. Exactly the same thing the Labour party have been preaching for years - make the rich pay for the poor.
Believe it or not the UK does/did actually get some benefits from being a member and getting out was never ever going to be as easy as some said it would. It will take years to unravel. Just 1 example the The Joint European Torus in Oxfordshire employs thousands with scientists from all over Europe. Completely funded by the EU but taken many years to get as far as it has. It cant just be shut down and moved somewhere else its a muti billion dollar programme that has been 20 years or so in the making.
Little Britain mentality really has done us something that will end up costing us a fortune.
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(17-10-2017, 20:01)Dancingwilldoit Wrote: The EU is what it says in the title " Union ". The richer countries pay more to bring the poorer members up to the same standard. Exactly the same thing the Labour party have been preaching for years - make the rich pay for the poor.
Believe it or not the UK does/did actually get some benefits from being a member and getting out was never ever going to be as easy as some said it would. It will take years to unravel. Just 1 example the The Joint European Torus in Oxfordshire employs thousands with scientists from all over Europe. Completely funded by the EU but taken many years to get as far as it has. It cant just be shut down and moved somewhere else its a muti billion dollar programme that has been 20 years or so in the making.
Little Britain mentality really has done us something that will end up costing us a fortune.

Whereas the Tories want to downtrod everyone at the bottom to keep those at the top rich. There needs to be an economy in Britain which works for everybody. The way I see it there should be privately owned companies and services and publically owned companies and services and give the public a choice on what they want to choose and use.

As for Brexit if it was done cross party we might have a better chance with negotiations and moving forward but the Tories just want to do it all by themselves and they are showing they are not up to the task on there own and that they need help.
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Matt, unless you haven't realised its whats called a "hot potato". Nobody knows what the f**k to do with it so they just keep throwing it around. Labour Conservative Liberal doesn't matter they all wanted to stay in because they knew bloody well it would be a nightmare to get out. Unless you are like Blue and believe that a recent poll actually suggested if another poll was had now the vote would be even more definite for leave (I think the one he refers to is the exit poll from the recent UKIP conference), the truth is it would definately go the other way.
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