[St Charles Owl]

The problem is that if you stood two muslims side by side you could not tell who is the peaceful one and who is the terrorist so what do you do ? i just dont like the religion and how it can be interpreted .It is a dangerous ideology and we tolerate and encourage it at the expense of hundreds of innocent people dying or maimed in this country.

I think you nearly hit the nail on the head here, while currently its the muslim faith at the center of most of our terrorist thoughts, in reality over the centuries its basically been one religion after another either not accepting each other or being over zealous in converting the ones who don't follow them. For me religion is generally at the core of most conflict and has been for centuries, and there is virtually no religion that hasn't had their period of intolerance against another race or religion!!! Over here the Christian Right wing scare me more than any muslim does, they will kill people and oppress whole sections of society in the name of God given the chance!! All religions preach tolerance, peace, faith and love from their God, yet few of them at their extreme level practice any of that.

[spireitematt]

Does anyone think we will actually leave the EU? or will they decide at the last minute to have another referendum and if we do have another referendum and the result is to remain do we end up being part of a federal Europe?

[Dancingwilldoit]

Am not too sure where the Muslim faith fits in with Brexit. There are millions of Muslims in the UK the vast majority peaceful and probably themselves voted for Brexit. You will always have evil people no matter what the religion. What were the Naz!s, responsible for killing millions mainly Jews. I believe Hitler was Catholic, does that make all Catholics murderers?
The problem with religion is it is simply intolerant especially of other beliefs. As long as we have religion we will never ever have world peace and a tolerant society.
Kick out radicalism become atheist today !!!
Better still send all the leaders of every faith, Muslim, Christian, Buddist etc etc to North Korea with a pen and paper and a gun and see what you end up with. Peace or World War 3?

Since when has Naz! been a bloody swear word.

[Devongone]

I've been an atheist for years. If there is a god why would you worship him? Look at what he does! He's the terrorist and his followers simply blackmail the naive with the promise of eternal life. Thought for Sunday!

And yes I've tried to use the word Naz! on here to describe a follower of Alfod Hilter and it annoyed me too.

But then when I worked for university admissions I had to ring a headmaster and explain why our email scanning system automatically rejected all his emails. The school was very obviously religiously-based and he sounded quite Ian-Paisleyish. Step one of telling him the problem was his own surname went okay till the confused silence evident on the line led into a more detailed explanation for Mr Boner .........

[bluepooch]

Not allowed to say Naz.i .Cant get my breath ,liberal PC maniacs have taken over the internet.
Dancing ,how are these terrorists getting here ? through the Schengen countries and our weak pathetic government not prioritising borders.
Theresa May was shite when she was home sec and still shite now .Liberal minded don't rock the boat do gooder .

[spireitematt]

I don't understand how a thread about Brexit and the EU referendum has turned into this.

[Dancingwilldoit]

Not allowed to say Naz.i .Cant get my breath ,liberal PC maniacs have taken over the internet.
Dancing ,how are these terrorists getting here ? through the Schengen countries and our weak pathetic government not prioritising borders.
Theresa May was shite when she was home sec and still shite now .Liberal minded don't rock the boat do gooder .

Blue, wake up, they are not "getting here", they have been here for years and years. They live amongst us, they are mainly British. Its got nothing to do with weak government. If you want to stop it ban telephones and the internet and see how well that goes down.
In the 70's and 80's the IRA had a much worse bombing campaign against us. Did people want to stop any Irish folk free unrestricted access into the UK which they had for years or doesn't that count because the IRA were white and Catholic?

[bluepooch]

I cant believe youre defending our policies which are contributing to the country being at war with Islamic terrorists.
Just keep defending the liberal elite end the PC equality brigade and give then a hug while they kill us .
They are 'getting here' Dancing dont be so naive ,there are 3000 jihadists living amongst us whether they were born here or migrated ,the latest one is believed to be a 'refugee' who was taken in by a kind family .
Reminds me of the Al Wilson song 'The Snake'.

[St Charles Owl]

There is very little that can be done about anyone who already lives in the UK who wants to commit a lone wolf or small group attack like we have seen.  Whether there are 3 or 3000, if they are here and are radicalized then we either have to get lucky and find something before they act or make sure they do not survive any attack they carry out.  

The key for me is to have a practical and proactive immigration policy to stop already radicalized people into the UK going forward and there has to be more work done within the Muslim community to highlight potential/actual risks before they get too far.  The vast majority of peaceful muslims will have a huge part to play in curtailing this in the years to come and they must be encouraged to step up and become part of the solution.

As a long time moderator on here I have no idea why the word Nazl is banned, I assume it maybe was a word that could potentially be used as an insult and got lumped in with the various swear words that his been excluded.  Don't particularly see the need to alter this unless you guys want me or Matt to take it up with Stairs to get it changed??

[Dancingwilldoit]

There is very little that can be done about anyone who already lives in the UK who wants to commit a lone wolf or small group attack like we have seen.  Whether there are 3 or 3000, if they are here and are radicalized then we either have to get lucky and find something before they act or make sure they do not survive any attack they carry out.  

The key for me is to have a practical and proactive immigration policy to stop already radicalized people into the UK going forward and there has to be more work done within the Muslim community to highlight potential/actual risks before they get too far.  The vast majority of peaceful muslims will have a huge part to play in curtailing this in the years to come and they must be encouraged to step up and become part of the solution.

As a long time moderator on here I have no idea why the word Nazl  is banned, I assume it maybe was a word that could potentially be used as an insult and got lumped in with the various swear words that his been excluded.  Don't particularly see the need to alter this unless you guys want me or Matt to take it up with Stairs to get it changed??

I'll live with it thanks. Cant see any need to use it again but its a strange one.

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I cant believe youre defending our policies which are contributing to the country being at war with Islamic terrorists.
Just keep defending the liberal elite end the PC equality brigade and give then a hug while they kill us .
They are 'getting here' Dancing dont be so naive ,there are 3000 jihadists living amongst us whether they were born here or migrated ,the latest one is believed to be a 'refugee' who was taken in by a kind family .
Reminds me of the Al Wilson song 'The Snake'.

The point I was making is that its got bog all to do with Schengen or anything PC. Its simply evil mindless cretins. They are everywhere no matter what religion. Its not only Muslims. Its society in general that's at fault. How many murders as a result of drugs crime? What do they get when they make court (if the police can be bothered) a smack on the back of the hand or they know full well they will be out again in a couple of years. There are more drugs related murders in a year than loss of life through terrorism. The EU might be at fault for a lot of things Blue but not everything you simply don't like.